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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: .:...:.Official Philadelphia Flyers Thread.:...:. Reply with quote





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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After cooling off my thoughts.

Goodbye Richie & Carter, those 2 are and were great players here and I'm gonna miss them.

That said I'm excitied we added the best prospect in hockey, Voracek, who is a young and talented player, Simmonds, who gives us some grit on the wing, and a top 10 pick, and the expected move up to get Landeskog.

Also excited we finally got a good goalie in Bryzgalov. He's probably got 5 top notch years left, and hopefully 2 more of solid #1 play so that 7 year 48 million dollar deal works out all 7 years, while the last 2 just go by the way side as he retires or becomes the backup.

Also excited we still are 9 million according to Meltzer over the cap to re-sign Leino, Voracek, Nodl, Simmonds, Powe, and maybe O'Donnell, if we trade Versteeg to move up to 3, that clears up around 4 more million as well. Plus hopefully adding Landeskog who looks like a star in the making.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I'm not a Flyers fan, taking the night to sort of recollect my thoughts on the trades, the one resounding feeling I have is that it's more just a shame than anything. As fans there's nothing we like more than having great players who want to play for our favorite teams, and Richards and Carter definitely wanted to be Flyers for life - that to me is what sucks the most out of all this.

I still don't buy that there will be a legitimate deal for a trade up to get Gabriel Landeskog just yet, but we'll see. Lots of activity is expected from everybody today.

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean Schenn not Voracek but yeah we got some nice prospects but a lot of work to do. Hopefully it all pans out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLick12 wrote:
You mean Schenn not Voracek but yeah we got some nice prospects but a lot of work to do. Hopefully it all pans out.


I think he meant Voracek, in addition to Schenn.
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Oh and I'm playing around with cap geek and I truly don't see what these trades did for us. Both Voracek and Simmonds are RFA. I assume they will both command around $2-2.5M. This leaves us with only $2.3 with Leino still to be resigned. This is incredibly stupid to me, hopefully I'm not seeing something here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After cooling off on the trades I see why we needed to trade Carter, he's a partier. If the kid we want is as good as you say he is then I would be happy with both of the trades.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After cooling off from my initial reactions I think I'm ok with both deals. I hated the fact that we were so close to the Cup and just traded away two "faces of the franchise" and completely overhauled this team. The Richards one obviously hurt the most because he was our captain and a great two way player but the picks/players we got back from moving those two gave us a legitimate amount of cap space to actually add to the team and make it stronger. I really hope we are able to make the move to add Landeskong (or take Larsson as a consolation).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hockey5djh wrote:
After cooling off from my initial reactions I think I'm ok with both deals. I hated the fact that we were so close to the Cup and just traded away two "faces of the franchise" and completely overhauled this team. The Richards one obviously hurt the most because he was our captain and a great two way player but the picks/players we got back from moving those two gave us a legitimate amount of cap space to actually add to the team and make it stronger. I really hope we are able to make the move to add Landeskong (or take Larsson as a consolation).


That is the thing though... it didn't. Because we traded for two RFAs in Voracek and Simmonds who we have to re-up and then we still have to resign Leino. Assuming we Lappy comes off the books and so does one of our goalies either Leighton or Bob then we have about $10.2 mill to sign Powe, Leino, Voracek, Simmonds, and possibly Nodl.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see Carter, but I still don't get trading Richie. He's young and likes to party, but he still comes to play every game and is just one of the better two-way Center's in the league.

He was a fan favorite and will be sorely missed, and I think this will be a costly mistake in the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Ville Leino ($3.400m)
James Van Riemsdyk ($1.654m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($2.200m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.800m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Kris Versteeg ($3.083m)
Darroll Powe ($1.200m) / Blair Betts ($0.700m) / Andreas Nodl ($0.850m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m)

DEFENSEMEN
Chris Pronger ($4.921m) / Matt Carle ($3.437m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($3.200m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)
Oskars Bartulis ($0.600m)

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Sergei Bobrovsky ($1.750m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,356,428; BONUSES: $3,815,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): -$56,428


I hope we waive Shelley (doubtful) and trade Versteeg, that would give us around 4M in cap room.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonu62882 wrote:
I can see Carter, but I still don't get trading Richie. He's young and likes to party, but he still comes to play every game and is just one of the better two-way Center's in the league.

He was a fan favorite and will be sorely missed, and I think this will be a costly mistake in the end.


yea, wish he was still here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Setoguchi signing a 3 year $9mill deal I can't see Leino getting any more than 3. Having said that Voracek may get slightly more than 2.2 and Simmonds may get 2 though 1.8 seems fair. Powe at 1.2 seems like a pretty generous increase for a guy that doesn't do anything great. Don't see how waiving Shelley helps at all I think we'd still have to eat his contract. Trading Versteeg is just about the only thing we can hope for.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purple-Pride07 wrote:
BLick12 wrote:
You mean Schenn not Voracek but yeah we got some nice prospects but a lot of work to do. Hopefully it all pans out.


I think he meant Voracek, in addition to Schenn.


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