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| Mid-Season EPL First Choice RB |
| Kyle Walker, Tottenham Hotspur |
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31% |
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| Micah Richards, Manchester City |
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63% |
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| Glen Johnson, Liverpool FC |
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0% |
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| Chris Smalling, Manchester United |
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4% |
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| Other (Please specify) |
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yankee0724
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| kempus wrote: | Why on earth is King winning this? I understand its close, but Richards is so injury prone. He hobbles off injured or has to miss a game every other week. Where as, [insert other CB here] has played in pretty much every game this season for us. He has arguably been our best player. I'm not saying he shouldnt be playing, but there must be a concrete reason why he never gets to play.
[Insert other CB] is the only choice here. |
Look, I just did the same thing as you. _________________
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EnglishLion20 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| kempus wrote: | Why on earth is Richards winning this? I understand its close, but Richards is so injury prone. He hobbles off injured or has to miss a game every other week. Where as, Walker has played in pretty much every game this season for us. He has arguably been our best player, plus Richards isnt trusted to play in the big games and isnt even selected to the England squad. I'm not saying he shouldnt be playing, but there must be a concrete reason why he never gets to play.
Walker is the only choice here. |
Man Citys Domiance...
When i posted, all the posts before mine were for Walker...when i voted on the Poll it was 11-5 in Richards favour....i was Flabbergasted....so id say its because he plays for Man City so he must be good philosphy... _________________
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kempus 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Oregon Ducks wrote: | | Richards and quite easily. Walker is fast...really fast, though. |
Stuff like this just makes me laugh. _________________
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The Wyzzinator 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Well you win some and you lose some, Kemp.
Anyway I'm gonna put up defensive midfielders tonight.
Something like Parker, Song, Toure, Barry, Jones, Tiote, Lucas Leiva (12 games), Rodwell, Romeu
Some of those players probably eligible at advanced midfield positions like Toure/Song since they play all over. _________________
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kempus 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The Wyzzinator wrote: | Well you win some and you lose some, Kemp.
Anyway I'm gonna put up defensive midfielders tonight.
Something like Parker, Song, Toure, Barry, Jones, Tiote, Lucas Leiva (12 games), Rodwell, Romeu
Some of those players probably eligible at advanced midfield positions like Toure/Song since they play all over. |
This is true, I expect at least 2 more Spurs players to make it anyway. _________________
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The Wyzzinator 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| kempus wrote: | | The Wyzzinator wrote: | Well you win some and you lose some, Kemp.
Anyway I'm gonna put up defensive midfielders tonight.
Something like Parker, Song, Toure, Barry, Jones, Tiote, Lucas Leiva (12 games), Rodwell, Romeu
Some of those players probably eligible at advanced midfield positions like Toure/Song since they play all over. |
This is true, I expect at least 2 more Spurs players to make it anyway. |
Modric, Bale, Parker probably all could but they have some competition.
Only one Arsenal player will make it and that shouldn't even be close. Although I have a soft spot for Mikel Arteta. He's completed the 2nd most passes (probably first after Silva sat today) in the EPL with an accuracy around 88-91%.. Arsenal fans don't even notice it anymore because he's so consistent. However I think he lacks the flare of the players he'll be going up against in the midfield play maker role. _________________
| BaltimoreTerp wrote: | | Dr. Philly wrote: | | M'Villa's stock has soared way down since last year. | Yeah that's not really how that works... |
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Oregon Ducks 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| kempus wrote: | | Oregon Ducks wrote: | | Richards and quite easily. Walker is fast...really fast, though. |
Stuff like this just makes me laugh. |
I think the same about your homeristic posts. _________________
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kempus 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Oregon Ducks wrote: | | kempus wrote: | | Oregon Ducks wrote: | | Richards and quite easily. Walker is fast...really fast, though. |
Stuff like this just makes me laugh. |
I think the same about your homeristic posts. |
Please can you justify your opinion to me then. At least I gave an explination why I would prefer Walker. _________________
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RoxSox2004 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| The Wyzzinator wrote: | | kempus wrote: | | The Wyzzinator wrote: | Well you win some and you lose some, Kemp.
Anyway I'm gonna put up defensive midfielders tonight.
Something like Parker, Song, Toure, Barry, Jones, Tiote, Lucas Leiva (12 games), Rodwell, Romeu
Some of those players probably eligible at advanced midfield positions like Toure/Song since they play all over. |
This is true, I expect at least 2 more Spurs players to make it anyway. |
Modric, Bale, Parker probably all could but they have some competition.
Only one Arsenal player will make it and that shouldn't even be close. Although I have a soft spot for Mikel Arteta. He's completed the 2nd most passes (probably first after Silva sat today) in the EPL with an accuracy around 88-91%.. Arsenal fans don't even notice it anymore because he's so consistent. However I think he lacks the flare of the players he'll be going up against in the midfield play maker role. |
We've been playing him in the box to box role, not CAM as he played at Everton. He's not getting the space he used to.
And there will be more Spurs players in contention, but it won't be landslide. Plenty of competition this season. |
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The Wyzzinator 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| RoxSox2004 wrote: | | The Wyzzinator wrote: | | kempus wrote: | | The Wyzzinator wrote: | Well you win some and you lose some, Kemp.
Anyway I'm gonna put up defensive midfielders tonight.
Something like Parker, Song, Toure, Barry, Jones, Tiote, Lucas Leiva (12 games), Rodwell, Romeu
Some of those players probably eligible at advanced midfield positions like Toure/Song since they play all over. |
This is true, I expect at least 2 more Spurs players to make it anyway. |
Modric, Bale, Parker probably all could but they have some competition.
Only one Arsenal player will make it and that shouldn't even be close. Although I have a soft spot for Mikel Arteta. He's completed the 2nd most passes (probably first after Silva sat today) in the EPL with an accuracy around 88-91%.. Arsenal fans don't even notice it anymore because he's so consistent. However I think he lacks the flare of the players he'll be going up against in the midfield play maker role. |
We've been playing him in the box to box role, not CAM as he played at Everton. He's not getting the space he used to.
And there will be more Spurs players in contention, but it won't be landslide. Plenty of competition this season. |
He was playing like a man possessed yesterday in the 1st half. Had a burst of speed and agility I've never seen from him and was making every pass look easy. 2nd half he dropped off a bit but played tidy. Really glad we picked him up if only as a stop-gap for a few seasons. _________________
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ukjets21 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| kempus wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | kempus wrote: | | Why on earth is Richards winning this? I understand its close, but Richards is so injury prone. |
The same reason King won, he's better. |
Choose to ignore everything else I wrote
He isnt better, either. |
You say there must be a concrete reason why Richards doesn't play as much?
Same could be said for:
Mertesacker having so many caps for Germany
Ramsey still being played (that's especially for you)
Nani still playing loads
There's many more which work the other way as well, sometimes managers get it wrong as well. _________________
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RoxSox2004 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Walker is very fast and is great at putting in crosses. But he's not as good defensively as Richards. Nor is he as strong. |
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kempus 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ukjets21 wrote: | | kempus wrote: | | ukjets21 wrote: | | kempus wrote: | | Why on earth is Richards winning this? I understand its close, but Richards is so injury prone. |
The same reason King won, he's better. |
Choose to ignore everything else I wrote
He isnt better, either. |
You say there must be a concrete reason why Richards doesn't play as much?
Same could be said for:
Mertesacker having so many caps for Germany
Ramsey still being played (that's especially for you)
Nani still playing loads
There's many more which work the other way as well, sometimes managers get it wrong as well. |
There are reasons for all of those mentioned above, but I do agree with you. However, when Richards isnt trusted to play in the big games surely that must taint his value? Him not being called up for England is a joke, but Fabio must agree with Mancini that Richards cant be trusted on the big stage. I dont agree with it, but I find it hard to believe that both managers are that wrong about him, considering their pedigree.
Walker and Richards are 1a and 1b, but for some reason Richards has over double the votes. The fact is that Walker is more important to his team and is trusted to play in every game and performs in all of them. _________________
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ukjets21 
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| kempus wrote: | | Walker and Richards are 1a and 1b, but for some reason Richards has over double the votes. The fact is that Walker is more important to his team and is trusted to play in every game and performs in all of them. |
I don't see what the reasons are, City rotate loads and Capello is a clown when it comes to selection.
The reason Walker is more important is purely because Spurs aren't as deep as City and would suffer more were he replaced.
I think Richards is better defensively and he's no slouch on the attack so I'd take him for that reason. Though this season those two have been well above everyone else. _________________
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