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| Nnivolcm wrote: | | fretgod99 wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | | Ok......let me correct myself. Moss might have had usain bolt speed in 1998-2003.....lol...... but calvin or andre johnson speed now |
Moss never in his life had anything close to Usain Bolt speed.
And I don't want him in Carolina. Despite all the nice things you have to say with him, there are still legitimate concerns about the guy's lockerroom persona. I don't want to get in the middle of a rough stretch and have the guy blow things up, especially with a young quarterback. Besides, I'd much rather give the playing time to the young receivers on the roster to let them develop. While it's conceivable that Carolina could be in the playoffs next year, it's likely an outside shot at best. There's still work that needs to be done. You don't rebuild by signing 35 year old wide receivers when you're not in "must win now" mode. |
Doesn't Steve Smith have legitimate concerns about his lover room persona as well?  |
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I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
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| texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising.
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| Plus steve smith, moss, lafell, gettis would be a dangerous wr corp |
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| J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising. |
I was about to say - I've never met Bill Belicheck. Thought I saw him at an airport, but it wasn't him. However, I don't have to meet the guy to know he thought Moss was a cancer...hence why he traded him mid-season to the Vikings.
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| EliteTexan80 wrote: | | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising. |
I was about to say - I've never met Bill Belicheck. Thought I saw him at an airport, but it wasn't him. However, I don't have to meet the guy to know he thought Moss was a cancer...hence why he traded him mid-season to the Vikings. |
Elite, this is why bill traded him.....I thought you'd already know why-
"The patriot way" is you trade a player on their final year of the contract or let him play it out and don't resign him. Like ty law, asante samuel, richard seymore and so. Moss saw this coming so he addressed this in the offseason of 2010. Not in the best of ways but he quoted "patriots don't like to pay their players"......which was kinda incorrect. They don't keep too many of them around for too long and give extensions but rather pick up damaged goods or draft rookies- their track record is proven. Moss addressed this again after the week one game vs the bengals in the press conference. Lol....again.....not in the best way and it still didn't work. So he basically just said "whatever" and stopped playing and became disgruntled. That's why he was traded. He didn't get what he wanted and didn't go about it in the right way, he regrets it but likewise, the patriots never found a suitable deep threat to replace moss which was reeeeeally needed in the afc divisional game last season vs the jets and this year in the super bowl. Chad ochocinco didn't work out at all. Brandon tate vs the jets and gronkowski in the super bowl totally failed their moss impressions....lol
So moss realized the error of his way in new england and regrets what has happened..........but despite the two big playoff losses vs jets and giants, I'm sure the pats didn't have any regrets...... they're the "patriots"
But as for me talkin to izzo, elite, larry izzo was on with nd kalu and I think shawn bijani on 610am. This was last offseason and I asked him straight up about moss and asked "was moss this guy the nobody wanted to be around and was a total jerk to everyone like the media says??" And he said no. He even said moss was the best teammate he ever had and just really wants to win. I even asked him should the texans give him a call and he said yes.
Even brady last season said he'd love moss back and also said he'd never would have traded branch away either- "I don't have control over the personnel" he said so its evident he's no kobe bryant.
But hey.......we just gotta wait and see what happens and enjoy the show....... we can't tell our GMs to pick him up or not pick him up..... and if they do and he works out and be a productive good soldier and maybe win a superbowl for your team, are the ones who hated and didn't want him gonna gripe and complain??? Nope
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| J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising. |
Well id pick nfl network over me anyday...lol........ I think I might have more sense than espn....... plus I feel the bulk of the disdain for moss is national radio media. |
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| texanteddyp wrote: | | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising. |
Well id pick nfl network over me anyday...lol........ I think I might have more sense than espn....... plus the bulk of the disdain for moss is national radio media. |
Gotcha.
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| texanteddyp wrote: | | EliteTexan80 wrote: | | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising. |
I was about to say - I've never met Bill Belicheck. Thought I saw him at an airport, but it wasn't him. However, I don't have to meet the guy to know he thought Moss was a cancer...hence why he traded him mid-season to the Vikings. |
Elite, this is why bill traded him.....I thought you'd already know why-
"The patriot way" is you trade a player on their final year of the contract or let him play it out and don't resign him. Like ty law, asante samuel, richard seymore and so. Moss saw this coming so he addressed this in the offseason of 2010. Not in the best of ways but he quoted "patriots don't like to pay their players"......which was kinda incorrect. They don't keep too many of them around for too long and give extensions but rather pick up damaged goods or draft rookies- their track record is proven. Moss addressed this again after the week one game vs the bengals in the press conference. Lol....again.....not in the best way and it still didn't work. So he basically just said "whatever" and stopped playing and became disgruntled. That's why he was traded. He didn't get what he wanted and didn't go about it in the right way, he regrets it but likewise, the patriots never found a suitable deep threat to replace moss which was reeeeeally needed in the afc divisional game last season vs the jets and this year in the super bowl. Chad ochocinco didn't work out at all. Brandon tate vs the jets and gronkowski in the super bowl totally failed their moss impressions....lol
So moss realized the error of his way in new england and regrets what has happened..........but despite the two big playoff losses vs jets and giants, I'm sure the pats didn't have any regrets...... they're the "patriots"
But as for me talkin to izzo, elite, larry izzo was on with nd kalu and I think shawn bijani on 610am. This was last offseason and I asked him straight up about moss and asked "was moss this guy the nobody wanted to be around and was a total jerk to everyone like the media says??" And he said no. He even said moss was the best teammate he ever had and just really wants to win. I even asked him should the texans give him a call and he said yes.
Even brady last season said he'd love moss back and also said he'd never would have traded branch away either- "I don't have control over the personnel" he said so its evident he's no kobe bryant.
But hey.......we just gotta wait and see what happens and enjoy the show....... we can't tell our GMs to pick him up or not pick him up..... and if they do and he works out and be a productive good soldier and maybe win a superbowl for your team, are the ones who hated and didn't want him gonna gripe and complain??? Nope |
So why 3 teams in 1 season and no teams the following? What happened in Oakland? What happened in Minny? Is the guy just misunderstood? Or does he deserve some criticism for his attitude, his mentality and his work ethic throughout his career?
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I | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | | EliteTexan80 wrote: | | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising. |
I was about to say - I've never met Bill Belicheck. Thought I saw him at an airport, but it wasn't him. However, I don't have to meet the guy to know he thought Moss was a cancer...hence why he traded him mid-season to the Vikings. |
Elite, this is why bill traded him.....I thought you'd already know why-
"The patriot way" is you trade a player on their final year of the contract or let him play it out and don't resign him. Like ty law, asante samuel, richard seymore and so. Moss saw this coming so he addressed this in the offseason of 2010. Not in the best of ways but he quoted "patriots don't like to pay their players"......which was kinda incorrect. They don't keep too many of them around for too long and give extensions but rather pick up damaged goods or draft rookies- their track record is proven. Moss addressed this again after the week one game vs the bengals in the press conference. Lol....again.....not in the best way and it still didn't work. So he basically just said "whatever" and stopped playing and became disgruntled. That's why he was traded. He didn't get what he wanted and didn't go about it in the right way, he regrets it but likewise, the patriots never found a suitable deep threat to replace moss which was reeeeeally needed in the afc divisional game last season vs the jets and this year in the super bowl. Chad ochocinco didn't work out at all. Brandon tate vs the jets and gronkowski in the super bowl totally failed their moss impressions....lol
So moss realized the error of his way in new england and regrets what has happened..........but despite the two big playoff losses vs jets and giants, I'm sure the pats didn't have any regrets...... they're the "patriots"
But as for me talkin to izzo, elite, larry izzo was on with nd kalu and I think shawn bijani on 610am. This was last offseason and I asked him straight up about moss and asked "was moss this guy the nobody wanted to be around and was a total jerk to everyone like the media says??" And he said no. He even said moss was the best teammate he ever had and just really wants to win. I even asked him should the texans give him a call and he said yes.
Even brady last season said he'd love moss back and also said he'd never would have traded branch away either- "I don't have control over the personnel" he said so its evident he's no kobe bryant.
But hey.......we just gotta wait and see what happens and enjoy the show....... we can't tell our GMs to pick him up or not pick him up..... and if they do and he works out and be a productive good soldier and maybe win a superbowl for your team, are the ones who hated and didn't want him gonna gripe and complain??? Nope |
So why 3 teams in 1 season and no teams the following? What happened in Oakland? What happened in Minny? Is the guy just misunderstood? Or does he deserve some criticism for his attitude, his mentality and his work ethic throughout his career? |
well, I think he's misunderstood but moss said he's writing a book and in it he will explain what happend in minny in 2010. In oakland, who really wants to be in oakland??? He didn't ask to go there. I feel that was the worst trade minny could do in 2005 and ruined a team with a set offense that needed a retooled defense. I feel he does deserve some criticism but not beat him to death with old old stuff in the past.
Now it is obvious he did have some personal issues and family issues he had to deal with. What it was? We don't know and none of our business. And he also said "he made personal adjustments in his life"...... now one step to removing a problem is to admit you have one. He's never been this open about anything in his personal life so it really might have been a big deal and no longer affecting him.
But as I said, dude is a mercenary who goes by his own rules and has his demands. It used to be winning team, good qb, and paid what he wants..... but now after looking at his video, he has lowered his demands and even said........
"I don't need to be the number 1 receiver"
That should really open some eyes and ears towards moss. He's not worried about money either. Just a chance to play and a ring |
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| texanteddyp wrote: | I | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | | EliteTexan80 wrote: | | J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | texanteddyp wrote: | I've talked with former patriot larry izzo and he says moss wasn't a problem in the locker room. Some of you guys need to stop trusting espn and radio media and talk to people yourselves. If I was a big time reporter and said something about how tj yates slappin jacoby jones you'd fall hook line sinker and run with the lie.
Cam newton had "character issues" which were media lies now you guys in carolina love him. I don't see carolina in rebuild mode and I have them 2nd in the nfc south or even 1st. I'm a big cam fan and some of his passes were near tds- either the receiver was tackled a yard short or the ref called the td back or he missed his target by a foot.
Richardson trusted cam and trusted jeremy shockey who is openly a fool, especially towards demeco ryans after a td in houston. If you guys can take shockey, you forsure can take moss. |
So for those of us that dont know anyone that played with Moss, who should we trust? ESPN and NFLN or random internet guy that says he knows people?
Personally, neither source seems promising. |
I was about to say - I've never met Bill Belicheck. Thought I saw him at an airport, but it wasn't him. However, I don't have to meet the guy to know he thought Moss was a cancer...hence why he traded him mid-season to the Vikings. |
Elite, this is why bill traded him.....I thought you'd already know why-
"The patriot way" is you trade a player on their final year of the contract or let him play it out and don't resign him. Like ty law, asante samuel, richard seymore and so. Moss saw this coming so he addressed this in the offseason of 2010. Not in the best of ways but he quoted "patriots don't like to pay their players"......which was kinda incorrect. They don't keep too many of them around for too long and give extensions but rather pick up damaged goods or draft rookies- their track record is proven. Moss addressed this again after the week one game vs the bengals in the press conference. Lol....again.....not in the best way and it still didn't work. So he basically just said "whatever" and stopped playing and became disgruntled. That's why he was traded. He didn't get what he wanted and didn't go about it in the right way, he regrets it but likewise, the patriots never found a suitable deep threat to replace moss which was reeeeeally needed in the afc divisional game last season vs the jets and this year in the super bowl. Chad ochocinco didn't work out at all. Brandon tate vs the jets and gronkowski in the super bowl totally failed their moss impressions....lol
So moss realized the error of his way in new england and regrets what has happened..........but despite the two big playoff losses vs jets and giants, I'm sure the pats didn't have any regrets...... they're the "patriots"
But as for me talkin to izzo, elite, larry izzo was on with nd kalu and I think shawn bijani on 610am. This was last offseason and I asked him straight up about moss and asked "was moss this guy the nobody wanted to be around and was a total jerk to everyone like the media says??" And he said no. He even said moss was the best teammate he ever had and just really wants to win. I even asked him should the texans give him a call and he said yes.
Even brady last season said he'd love moss back and also said he'd never would have traded branch away either- "I don't have control over the personnel" he said so its evident he's no kobe bryant.
But hey.......we just gotta wait and see what happens and enjoy the show....... we can't tell our GMs to pick him up or not pick him up..... and if they do and he works out and be a productive good soldier and maybe win a superbowl for your team, are the ones who hated and didn't want him gonna gripe and complain??? Nope |
So why 3 teams in 1 season and no teams the following? What happened in Oakland? What happened in Minny? Is the guy just misunderstood? Or does he deserve some criticism for his attitude, his mentality and his work ethic throughout his career? |
well, I think he's misunderstood but moss said he's writing a book and in it he will explain what happend in minny in 2010. In oakland, who really wants to be in oakland??? He didn't ask to go there. I feel that was the worst trade minny could do in 2005 and ruined a team with a set offense that needed a retooled defense. I feel he does deserve some criticism but not beat him to death with old old stuff in the past.
Now it is obvious he did have some personal issues and family issues he had to deal with. What it was? We don't know and none of our business. And he also said "he made personal adjustments in his life"...... now one step to removing a problem is to admit you have one. He's never been this open about anything in his personal life so it really might have been a big deal and no longer affecting him.
But as I said, dude is a mercenary who goes by his own rules and has his demands. It used to be winning team, good qb, and paid what he wants..... but now after looking at his video, he has lowered his demands and even said........
"I don't need to be the number 1 receiver"
That should really open some eyes and ears towards moss. He's not worried about money either. Just a chance to play and a ring |
Even if we all choose to be charitable and gloss over the fact that he has flat out quit on at least 2 teams in the past, what part of this:
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is supposed to pose a ringing endorsement? The type of endorsement that says he should be brought in to play with an impressionable young player like Cam Newton?
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I understand the questions surrounding his mentality and whether he gives it a go all the time or not. I'm not doubting that. But I agree with him. Has it been said by anyone ever that Moss is actually a problem in the locker room? Belichick and Brady have said nothing but good things about Moss and according to Moss, he met up with all of the guys before he played them in '10. From what I've heard, the guys in Tennessee liked him too. His stint in Minnesota last season is the only time I can think of where he might have possibly been a cancer in the locker room and that's mainly because of his quite controversial press conference after the Pats game.
Not saying he's a saint or anything. He's definitely not that and comparing him to Newton isn't exactly accurate considering his supposed character concerns were ridiculous considering every Auburn player and coach praised his character and work ethic. But I don't think I've really ever seen or thought of Moss as a locker room cancer moreso as he just tends to check himself out a lot. If Carolina did sign him (which I'd be supportive mainly due to bias; Moss is one of my personal favorites), I wouldn't be worried about how he acted in the locker room, at least not compared to how I'd be concerned over his mental state.
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| iknowcool wrote: | I understand the questions surrounding his mentality and whether he gives it a go all the time or not. I'm not doubting that. But I agree with him. Has it been said by anyone ever that Moss is actually a problem in the locker room? Belichick and Brady have said nothing but good things about Moss and according to Moss, he met up with all of the guys before he played them in '10. From what I've heard, the guys in Tennessee liked him too. His stint in Minnesota last season is the only time I can think of where he might have possibly been a cancer in the locker room and that's mainly because of his quite controversial press conference after the Pats game.
Not saying he's a saint or anything. He's definitely not that and comparing him to Newton isn't exactly accurate considering his supposed character concerns were ridiculous considering every Auburn player and coach praised his character and work ethic. But I don't think I've really ever seen or thought of Moss as a locker room cancer moreso as he just tends to check himself out a lot. If Carolina did sign him (which I'd be supportive mainly due to bias; Moss is one of my personal favorites), I wouldn't be worried about how he acted in the locker room, at least not compared to how I'd be concerned over his mental state. |
My concern wouldnt be that he is a cancer. It would be that he is a quitter and that he would provide a [inappropriate/removed] poor example of what a great NFL player is supposed to be and how a great NFL player is supposed to act.
I would gladly welcome the guy's failing physical tools. I just dont want the baggage that comes with it.
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| J Pep 4 Step wrote: | | iknowcool wrote: | I understand the questions surrounding his mentality and whether he gives it a go all the time or not. I'm not doubting that. But I agree with him. Has it been said by anyone ever that Moss is actually a problem in the locker room? Belichick and Brady have said nothing but good things about Moss and according to Moss, he met up with all of the guys before he played them in '10. From what I've heard, the guys in Tennessee liked him too. His stint in Minnesota last season is the only time I can think of where he might have possibly been a cancer in the locker room and that's mainly because of his quite controversial press conference after the Pats game.
Not saying he's a saint or anything. He's definitely not that and comparing him to Newton isn't exactly accurate considering his supposed character concerns were ridiculous considering every Auburn player and coach praised his character and work ethic. But I don't think I've really ever seen or thought of Moss as a locker room cancer moreso as he just tends to check himself out a lot. If Carolina did sign him (which I'd be supportive mainly due to bias; Moss is one of my personal favorites), I wouldn't be worried about how he acted in the locker room, at least not compared to how I'd be concerned over his mental state. |
My concern wouldnt be that he is a cancer. It would be that he is a quitter and that he would provide a [inappropriate/removed] poor example of what a great NFL player is supposed to be and how a great NFL player is supposed to act.
I would gladly welcome the guy's failing physical tools. I just dont want the baggage that comes with it. |
Co-sign. When things go well with Moss, then tend to go very well. After all, he's highly talented. But when they don't go well, it's a trainwreck. I just don't want to risk it. We don't need to, particularly considering the problems we have are on defense and Moss will do nothing to solve that.
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