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This was my 2nd mock draft ever, how would you rate it?
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B) Okay, Needs some work
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C)Average at Best
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D)Terrible, You have no clue what you're doing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:01 pm    Post subject: Mock draft!!! Reply with quote

Completely revamped, and better than before. Let me know what yous think...

Free Agency
Cut/Not Resigned: Vince Young, Ronnie Brown, Steve Smith, Winston Justice, Victor Abiamari, Juqua Parker, Jamall Jackson, Chad Hall,and any player not included in the depth chart- No need to explain why certain players are cut, after all the mocks people catch the drift, but I do see certain players staying until TC and being cut last minute such as a Victor Abiamiri or Juqua Parker.

Franchise Tag- D-Jack signs the tag and appears to be apart of the 2012-2013 roster, eventually signed long-term. Too good to let go.

Extended Contracts-

-Lesean McCoy: Obviously deserves it, dude's a beast, the most consistent and thrilling player on the team. I like the deal everybody else has in place with the 5 year extension and major signing bonus so I'll stick with that

-Evan Mathis- signed to a 4 yr deal, backloaded, 24mill/ 10mill guarenteed. Well deserved, and if he hits an open market I believe this is the price he will cost.

- Owen Schmidt- Solid starting FB, 1 yr 2million

--Derik Landri + Antonio Dixon- We bring back both DT's to help provide depth to the d-line. Landri played very well after we re-signed him mid-season and the once promising dixon is given another shot. Both players signed to 1yr deals worth up to 2million a piece

- King Dunlap- Brought back for depth, skilled enough to start 2yrs 3mill (2mill guarenteed)

Players Added:

- Plaxico Burress- A great addition for our redzone O, I can see plax having similar stats to last year w/ the Jets. His presence alone on the field helps Vick target other wr's and brings a physicallity that our wr's lack as is. Kind of skeptical about his age but after his performance last year, in addition to the time off in prison, I think on an incentive laden deal he can be acquired at the right price, not to mention he wants to be in philly. 2yr deal, w/ team option to opt out of 2nd year. I can see anywhere from 1.5mill a year to 3 w/ incentives.

-Chris Chamberlin- Helps our thin LB core out and can battle for the starting SAM spot. Ultimately, he's a special teams ace and can provide adequate depth, possibly starting in spot duty. 3yr deal 5mill (2mill guarenteed)

-Israel Idonije- Flexible player, can play inside and outside, with solid size at 6'6'' and 275lbs. Garnered 8sacks back in 2010, hopefully playing in the wide-9 he can become an even better pass rusher while setting the edge in run support. He comes here to win and being near 32 yrs of age, the Eagles sign him for cheap. 4yr deal 12mill (3mill guarenteed).

- London Fletcher- I've been contemplating on whether or not Fletcher would be a good fit in the wide-9, but he's a straight fball player. He's succeeded in this league for a very long time now, he's pushing 37 or 38 yrs in age but he's still getting it done. Fletcher brings leadership and all the tangibles that the birds lacked last yr. I see this being his last stint in the nfl and he's signed to win a superbowl. 4yr deal 18mill( 6mill guarenteed)

-Jim Leonard- I saw this signing in a previous mock and liked it but Leonard's brought in to help lead the younger safeties and hopefully his work ethic rubs off on the whole secondary. In a perfect world, I would have the Eagles signing a more physical vet than the undersized Leonard to toughen up Nate Allen, but he comes cheap on a 1 yr deal with the intentions to re-prove himself. 1yr- 1mill( if he's cut he's guarenteed half of this 500k/ but if he starts and has over 3 int's he recieves an additional 1mill)

-Jeff Saturday- Howard Mudd guy, joins the Eagles knowing he's the main interior backup. Helps Kelce develop while he's here.
1 yr deal worth 2mill guarenteed

- Justin Forsett- Solid addition to the RB's, battles Lewis for the backup position and can be a great substitute on 3rd down if Shady's tired. 2yr deal 4mill ( 1.5 guarenteed)


TRADES:

-Both Asante Samuel and Mike Patterson are traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for a 3rd round pick this yr and a conditional 2-4th next yr. Fills two holes of the bucs and after asante's deal is restructured the Bucs accept the deal.

Draft
-2012 picks:
1.15, 2.14, 2.19 (from ARI), 3.5(from TB), 3.13,4.19, 5.18, 6.17, 6.25 (from DEN), 6.31 (from NE)
That gives the Eagles 10 picks to manuever around the draft with, which ultimately lands the Eagles 7-8 quality players to fill positional needs.

Eagles trade 15th overall to the Chargers for the 18th overall and pick 16 in the 3rd round. The Chargers jump ahead of the jets to grab Luke Kuechly, and the Eagles add another solid 3rd round pick while targeting the player they wanted all along.

Round 1 Pick 18- The Eagles Select DT Fletcher Cox Mississippi State

After trading Mike Patterson, the Eagles fill a hole at DT and find a solid replacement in the draft who can start from day 1. After Brockers and Poe are selected before the Eagles selection they trade down w/ the Chargers and still acquire the 3rd best DT on the board. Cox has good size to stop the run and is athletic enough to be a solid pass rusher at the next level. Accounted for 5 sacks his sr yr, the eagles hope that translates to his rookie season alongside jenkins.


Round 2 pick 14(from Chargers)- The Philadelphia Eagles select DE Vinny Curry Marshall

The Eagles may have reached here but they grab an explosive CB who went to a smaller school. Although he played at UCF, he excelled against better competition. Robinson has good technique but could use some work with his press technique. While the Eagles plan to use alot more press with Asante out, they believe they can easily teach Robinson along with the help of Nnamdi and DRC. Battles Joselio Hanson for the slot corner from day 1 and returns punts when Djack needs a break.

Round 2 Pick 19- The Eagles select OLB Shea McClellin BSU

McClellin is available after the top 3 OLB's are taken and the Eagles snag a player that challenges for a starting spot from day 1 and allows the Eagles to concentrate on other positions later in the draft. What once was a weak link on our D, is now a group of positions up for grabs with alot of talented guys. McClellin is versatile and posted impressive numbers in the 40 and all the lateral LB drills he performed in, ranking 4th out of 29 total OLB's. Add that w/ his size, 6'3'' 260lbs, and the Eagles find a SAM backer on downs 1 and 2 and another pass rusher on 3rd down.


Round 3 pick 5- The Philadelphia Eagles select CB Leonard Johnson Iowa
It was between Johnson and Robinson but Johnson brings a mentality that can only help our non-physical secondary. Can battle DRC for the 2nd starting Corner spot and provides insurance for the future. Johnson's extremely physical and can press, the only downfall is his size, but standing at 5'10" 196lbs he's still bigger than the avg corner.

Round 3 pick 13- The Philadelpha Eagles select OT Nate Potter BSU
With the limited talent available in FA at OT, this may be too early to select Potter, but w/ the lack of talent this yr in FA the eagles play it safe and snag their guy at T, it gives Mudd a lenky Tackle to work with and hopefully develop to be a swing tackle. Replaces King Dunlap.

Round 4 Pick 19- The Philadelphia Eagles select Brian Linthicum MSU
The Eagles select Linthicum w/ the intentions on battling Harbor for the #2 TE spot. Linthicum possess good hands and is an athletic TE w/ an all around solid game, can block and run the slot route tree. Standing at 6'4'' and 250lbs, he has room to bulk up and add 10lbs to his frame.

Round 5 Pick 18- The Philadelphia Eagles select RB/WR/R Chris Rainey Florida

Rainey is a popular mid-round selection for most people in this forum, so I figured he would be a nice addition with 4th round value. His main duties will be returning kicks, but Andy loves his gadget players and Rainey may have a few formations he's in for a reverse, gadget run, etc.


Round 6 Pick 17 is traded for 5th rounder next yr w/ the NE patriots

Round 6 Pick 25- The Philadelpha Eagles select WR Garell Robinson Arizona State

Bigger possession wr standing at 6'3'' comes in and battles for a spot on the roster.

Round 6 Pick 31- The Philadelphia Eagles select OLB Tank Carder TCU
A bit undersized but Andy takes a flyer on him late. Very similar to Akeem Jordan and Moise Fokou. Intentions here w/ this pick is to add competition to the LB core

2012-2013 Depth Chart RED=Rooks/ BLUE=Signed FA's
QB-Vick, T. Edwards, Kafka
RB-McCoy, Lewis, J. Forsett, RaineyFB-Schmidt
WR-Jackson,Maclin,P.Burress,G. Robinson/Cooper,Avant
TE-Celek,LinthicumOL-Peters,Mathis,Kelce,Watkins,Herremans,K. Dunlap, J. Saturday, Vandervelde,PotterTotal: 24

Defense
DE-Cole,Babin,V.Curry,Graham,Tapp,I. IdonijeDT-Jenkins,F. Cox,Landri,Dixon
LB-Chaney,L. Fletcher,S. McClellin,Rolle,C. Chamberlin,Matthews,K. Clayton
CB-Asomugha,DRC,Hanson,L. Johnson, Marsch
S-Allen,Jarrett,Coleman, J. Leonard,Nelson(until Colt's off P.U.P.)
Total:27

Specialists (2)
K- Alex Henery
P-Chas Henry
KR-Rainey, Lewis
PR- Jackson
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought free agency was meh, i liked Jones and Leonard. Hate the Brockers pick. Theres no need to trade up for Wright with Jackson back because they are such similiar receivers. Love Hightower, Rainey, and Potter, but i dont think Potter will make it to round 5.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drafted Wright to replace Jackson after this upcoming season and as for Potter, I figured it was a reach, but you never know.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your opinion!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from Haynesworth, Jim Washburn hasn't really developed any DT's. He's known for getting sack production out of his DE's in a wide 9 and that's pretty much it. He's not some DL guru that can turn every position into gold. Dixon, Patterson, and Laws all took a step back with him. Brockers is overrated. If he plays at any school besides LSU or Alabama he would be late 1st rounder at best. He offers nothing over other run pluggers like Brandon Thompson or Mike Martin besides height, which will most likely hinder him at DT in a 4-3 base in the NFL where guys will routinely know how to out leverage him. Brockers isn't Poe overrated, but he is overrated.

Kendall Wright is not worth a 1st round pick let alone trading up for.

Hightower will almost certainly be gone by round 2 pick 21.

Josh Robinson is basically Curtis Marsh.

Rainey is alright, but he's probably a #4 WR/ST player in the NFL, not a RB.

Potter is a decent pick in round 5.

Molk is a decent pick in round 6.

Tank Carder. LOL the last thing we need is another Moise Fokou.

There is no way in heaven Riley Cooper gets us anything better than a late 6th.

Free Agent signings were basically yuck as well.

Jason Jones offers little vs the pass and even less vs the run.
Jim Leonard absolutely sucked without NY's front 7 getting pressure.

If Dreesen was tremendous, he wouldn't have been 3rd on the depth chart.


We can probably do better than round 4 for Asante, especially if he restructures. And if you're gonna say a conditional round 3-7 you might as well cover all your bases and just say a condition round 1-7.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free agents are awfull.
No way Mathis will accept a backloaded contract. In al likelyhood it's his last major deal and will get as much upfront as possible.
You're getting rid of J. Jackson, (the best backup Center in football that can also play Guard), Justice and Dunlap. We now have no expierenced backups along the Line other then a washed up FA you are bringing in.
Burress is a head case. Always has been, always wil be. We have never brought in players to be " redzone threats" and this year will be no different. Burress is nothing more then a slot guy at this point in his career and we already have Avant.
Levy, ok I guess. Not a real upgrade as far as I am concerned.
Jones is a pipe dream and makes no sense at all with Cole and Babin.
I don't understand Leonard at all. He's a total liability and the contract thing makes no sense. If a player is cut before opening day nothing is guarenteed.
Diem, Blah.
What's the value of the Samuel trade? A conditional 3-7th pick? what is that?
You put to much trust, (value), on the combine. Poe's breakout combine? Poe is a 20-32 pick and Brockers is top 12-15 pick. Football games are what matters and Brockers has much better "game tape" then Poe.
The Eagles need to get bigger at WR and you have us trading up to draft DeSean v2.0. I don't any value there at all.
Hightower is a 2 down LB. Not what we need with a LBing core that below average talent across the board.
Potter is a late 3rd round value.
Riley Cooper has zero trade value.
No O-Line depth.
We do not carry 3 TE's.
No backup RB if something were to happen to McCoy.
What happened to Graham? Did I miss something?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand everyone's criticism on wright being drafted high and the whole he's jackson 2.0, but in my mock I have us drafting Wright under the assumption desean doesn't return after this upcoming season.I may be reaching for Wright but considering the circumstances of the possibility that djack may not resign after the following season(why not try and replace our best wr w/ someone w/ the exact skill set?), and the handful of teams who would have drafted Wright if the Eagles didn't move up, I think trading up is practical. I'm not 100%sold on Jackson re-signing w/ us if he proves himself worthy after this upcoming yr, he may sign elsewhere out of spite. Wright's lack of height is an issue, which is why I have Plax to a two yr deal, you can say what you like about him but if he is content on where he's playing plax is a good player. After one yr to knock the rust off I can see him being productive the next 2yrs.

I realize not drafting/signing a backup RB or retaining dunlap/jackson is a problem, but I tried to be realistic. They are starters in this league, dunlap isn't going to settle to re-sign w/ the eagles easily, he sees the open market value for Olineman and there's plenty of teams open to signing him/jackson. People have j. jackson being traded for a late rounder in most mocks but I don't find many teams willing to trade for a backup center(which is what he is at this point in his career). You can think he's the best backup center in the league but there's no way of telling that, all I know is that Kelce, a late round draft pick himself outshined j. jackson. Depth may be an issue in my mock on the oline, but diem was at one point considered among the elite tackles(while being coached under mudd). He is our new "swing tackle" replacing dunlap and potter and molk provide adequate depth.

As far as the FA goes, yeah it's nothing flashy, especially if you factor in last offseason, but it's realistic. I think Dreesen has potential to be a spot starter at TE and has flashed that for the Texans, but playing behind james casey, and owen daniels, doesn't necessarily mean your a scrub, they are some good TE's they have in Houston. You can say what you like about Jason Jones not being anything special, but under Washburn he was brilliant, and he isn't a pure DT he's a DE who can shift to the middle so there's no need for Wash to transform him into an elite DT or anything. Jones simply brings versatility and provides us w/ an interior pass rush in passing downs that Brocker may struggle w/ early in his career. Which leads me to my last point, Brocker's stock fell b/c of Poe, who I also agree is extremely overhyped, but brocker ran a terrible 40 which some scouts may direct towards his work ethic, but andy sees the film and snags a stud late in the 1st.

I should also probably be more clear on the conditions of a trade so thanks for pointing that out. I suppose the conditional terms for the asante trade would be more of a 3-5th not 3-7th, and depending upon his production would determine the conditional pick we recieve. At his age, pricetag, and style of play, I think a 4th and conditional picks is fair value. People are too optimistic hoping for a 3rd, we may be lucky to get that straight up for desean. And, I completely agree with you about Evan Mathis' contract, I failed to factor that in.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and the whole Riley Cooper trade is me being hopeful we can get some sort of compensation for him after acquiring plax. I realize I may be dreaming here..

And Brandon Graham is suppose to be on the depth chart, completely forgot about him Embarassed

Thanks for your criticism everyone!
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Jeezla wrote:

Kendall Wright is not worth a 1st round pick let alone trading up for.


Wright will be the third WR off the board barring someone falling in love with Hill's measureables and reaching hard for him.


As for the offseason, I am struggling to get past picking up Jones. He is a good player and a good fit for the line, but will be expensive and expect to go somewhere where he will start. Where are you going to start him? He is not a NT in any system. He won't start over Jenkins. He's a situational DE in this system. So where?

I also can't see picking any DT in this draft over Cox. Any. He is by far the best fit for the Eagles at 3 tech. And UT is where the Eagles need depth/future starters. They have a bunch of guys who are primarily 1 techs in the current system. Brockers does have a lot of potential, though.

Hightower is also a terrible pick. Very poor system fit. He is a pure downhill LB. He moves poorly laterally, which is absolutely vital for a MIKE in this system. He has to not only be able to quickly diagnose the proper hole for the play, but be able to slide over and fill the gap on time.
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I don't really like any of the first couple of picks, and FA seems a bit over the top.
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Josh Robinson will not make it even close to that pick. He blew up the combine and some people are saying he wont make it out of the 1st round. I could see 2nd, but mid 3rd.. i think thats a stretch
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you drafted the wrong BSU player
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Yeah I tend to agree that Wright will be the 3rd wr taken, which is why I had us trading back up to the Patriots spot, who surprisingly didn't take wright themselves.

Jones should want to go somewhere to start and he very well deserves it, but with our rotation and washburn being here, he would gladly come play here for reasonable money and a little less playing time. Besides, everybody says the wide-9 is what made him, I'm sure teams won't even consider signing him for that reason. As for where he fits in in our DL, I see him rotating w/ Babin alot, ESPECIALLY on run downs, also kicking in on obvious passing situations, like the giants do w/ tuck.

Like I said before, my draft picks may be off slightly, I tried reasearching projections and I wen't with my gut instinct based off the combine, team needs, and so forth, but maybe robinson is there, maybe not. Concerning Cox, I considered drafting him, b/c like you said he's a hell of a fit in our system, but at the end of the day, the Eagles go w/ a top 10 talent that slips in such a deep and talented DT class. And drafting Hightower that late may be a pipedream, and I'm aware of his skillset, but he's still explosive and has quick lateral movement, surely he's a run stuffer, but isn't that what the eagles need? I think Chaney, Levy/Rolle, by his side pick up where he lacks in speed, I don't see it as a big deal rotating Hightower out on 3rd and long and sliding Chaney in the middle, We'll probably be in nickel anyway, he was a 2nd rounder so him being a 2down backer isn't as bad as it sounds if, let's say, he was a first rounder.

Thanks for the responses! There's some great criticism
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With getting jones in free agency hed be moving back to his original position, which is dt, so then I could see the eagles taking a dt for depth maybe, as for the wright pick no if anything get alshon jeffery, eagles need more of a posession jump high wr not speed, as for the dont'a pick love it don't see him falling that far tho, and I don't like how u didn't sign any lbs in free agency that would make an impact
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Jones would be playing both positions but I see him playing DE more so on 1st and 2nd downs, and kicking inside on 3rd down/obv passing situations.

Yeah, I deffinitely considered drafting him, or a possession wr in general, but that's what Plax is signed for. I doubt the Eagles pay DJack the way he wants to be paid so they draft a replacement ahead of time and let jackson walk the following yr. But, that's not always the smartest way to draft, especially with our other needs so I see where your coming from.
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