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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Never, EVER going to happen but we can dream.


Yeah, because TT hasn't NEVER, EVER spent money a DB before, right? I'm not saying this to argue that TT is going to sign Landry, but he has spent money in the secondary before.

Marquand Manuel ( Awful signing), Charles Woodson ( Good)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure where all the Landry love is coming from; maybe because of the big hits? I live in the DC area and the fans are pretty much done with him here. He can't cover worth a damn and is often injured.


Yeah, I think I'd rather have Peprah right now.


Whoa! That's the worst insult you can give someone!


Peprah, though bad, is at least cheap.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only person who doesn't think Pep is turrible?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am I the only person who doesn't think Pep is turrible?


No, apparently Dom Capers thinks he's okay.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Am I the only person who doesn't think Pep is turrible?


I think he is fine. Not a starter but a good back up. I don't like him at FS though, SS he is fine.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.RodgersNeighborhood wrote:
JustisM wrote:
Am I the only person who doesn't think Pep is turrible?


I think he is fine. Not a starter but a good back up. I don't like him at FS though, SS he is fine.


Problem is that we essentially run a two FS defense.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nfldraftguru1 wrote:
Mr.RodgersNeighborhood wrote:
JustisM wrote:
Am I the only person who doesn't think Pep is turrible?


I think he is fine. Not a starter but a good back up. I don't like him at FS though, SS he is fine.


Problem is that we essentially run a two FS defense.


Let's us be honest here, in the NFL now there isn't much difference between a FS and a SS. Nick Collins give us more of a "ball hawk" back there though and that gives our DB corp another element. I don't think it matters if Pep or Burnett play FS or SS. It matters that Nick isn't back there. JMO

Edit: also you can argue that we run a 3 FS defense the way Woodson plays CB Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nfldraftguru1 wrote:
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JustisM wrote:
Am I the only person who doesn't think Pep is turrible?


I think he is fine. Not a starter but a good back up. I don't like him at FS though, SS he is fine.


Problem is that we essentially run a two FS defense.


And thats the problem, Peprah would be fine as an in the box safety in 2002, unfortunately those days of running the football are gone.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well actually That's one of the things that hurt us the most on defense this year. You need to be able to rotate either way in a cover three. You cannot be safe with Charlie back there in the deep third, that's why when Morgan Burnett/Nick Collins are back there they can either be rotated into the deep third.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the topic of Washington safeties, I'm surprised that Landry is the one people are talking about. Atogwe seems a much better fit for the way we do business..

edit: if Collins were to find out he can't play anymore, Atogwe would jump to the top of my list of players-to-consider. Rumor is Washington will cut him, and he should be a cheap fill-in type player who could hold us over until next seasons draft (not many good safeties available this season)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know people have tossed around Carriker a lot, but what's the deal with Luis Castillo? Could he be a rotational type DE that we bring in?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JustisM wrote:
Am I the only person who doesn't think Pep is turrible?


I think hes fine for his role (provides solid depth as a backup)... but hes been put into situations outside of his role for the last 2 years now thats have magnified his weaknesses.

then fans get mad cause we dont have a probowler at backup when someone like Burnett or Collins get injured
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atogwe was dumped by the 'Skins today. From my memory, he has the skillset to be effective in this defense if Collins cannot return.

1. When do we hear from Collins?
2. What sort of interest would Atogwe generate in FA?
3. Would he be a good fit in GB if the money is right? (will the money be right?)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really want Atogwe if Collins is even iffy. Had a rough year last year but was hampered by injuries. I think he can bounce back to his old form.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a thought...maybe Dallas Clark could be brought in on a one year deal. He's still a talented receiver, and I know we had practically acquired Tony Gonzalez until that trade fell through. I think having a vet like Dallas around would only sharpen Finley's outlook.

I'm not a huge fan of the player as he is now, but he'll come cheap and I really think a vet could straighten J-Mike out.
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