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PowerElite
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| This Fletcher Cox guy plays like a 43 left end that put on another 10 or so pounds to play DT in college. He's getting pushed around all over the place in college. He's on the ground, getting blown off the LOS. He appears to be an inferior talent to Jared Odrick who I liked back then. Same sort of guy but Cox has far less ability to anchor and collapse the pocket with strength. He's only a junior so I guess he has some additional room to develop, but he simply plays like what any team could get from putting a large defensive end inside at tackle. |
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killdawabbit
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| PowerElite wrote: | | This Fletcher Cox guy plays like a 43 left end that put on another 10 or so pounds to play DT in college. He's getting pushed around all over the place in college. He's on the ground, getting blown off the LOS. He appears to be an inferior talent to Jared Odrick who I liked back then. Same sort of guy but Cox has far less ability to anchor and collapse the pocket with strength. He's only a junior so I guess he has some additional room to develop, but he simply plays like what any team could get from putting a large defensive end inside at tackle. |
Let me guess, you got all that from watching one play on Youtube, right? 
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| killdawabbit wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | This Fletcher Cox guy plays like a 43 left end that put on another 10 or so pounds to play DT in college. He's getting pushed around all over the place in college. He's on the ground, getting blown off the LOS. He appears to be an inferior talent to Jared Odrick who I liked back then. Same sort of guy but Cox has far less ability to anchor and collapse the pocket with strength. He's only a junior so I guess he has some additional room to develop, but he simply plays like what any team could get from putting a large defensive end inside at tackle. |
Let me guess, you got all that from watching one play on Youtube, right? |
That is where he gets his, "game tape" from.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| birdman0069 wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | This Fletcher Cox guy plays like a 43 left end that put on another 10 or so pounds to play DT in college. He's getting pushed around all over the place in college. He's on the ground, getting blown off the LOS. He appears to be an inferior talent to Jared Odrick who I liked back then. Same sort of guy but Cox has far less ability to anchor and collapse the pocket with strength. He's only a junior so I guess he has some additional room to develop, but he simply plays like what any team could get from putting a large defensive end inside at tackle. |
Let me guess, you got all that from watching one play on Youtube, right? |
That is where he gets his, "game tape" from. |
haha ya but i do semi share the same concerns about cox vs the run, but he is strong & has atleast 10lbs that he could add to his frame no problem.
Him & jenkins up the middle could do damage on this d-line in the wide9.
but does anyone else get the bad feeling that cox looks like Bunkley 2.0?
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killdawabbit
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| bkb77 wrote: | | birdman0069 wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | This Fletcher Cox guy plays like a 43 left end that put on another 10 or so pounds to play DT in college. He's getting pushed around all over the place in college. He's on the ground, getting blown off the LOS. He appears to be an inferior talent to Jared Odrick who I liked back then. Same sort of guy but Cox has far less ability to anchor and collapse the pocket with strength. He's only a junior so I guess he has some additional room to develop, but he simply plays like what any team could get from putting a large defensive end inside at tackle. |
Let me guess, you got all that from watching one play on Youtube, right? |
That is where he gets his, "game tape" from. |
haha ya but i do semi share the same concerns about cox vs the run, but he is strong & has atleast 10lbs that he could add to his frame no problem.
Him & jenkins up the middle could do damage on this d-line in the wide9.
but does anyone else get the bad feeling that cox looks like Bunkley 2.0? |
It's my belief that Cox could fill a similar role to Jenkins in the wide 9. He would rotate in when the 2nd line comes in in the same spot. I would not put him at 1 tech.
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bkb77
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| killdawabbit wrote: | | bkb77 wrote: | | birdman0069 wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | This Fletcher Cox guy plays like a 43 left end that put on another 10 or so pounds to play DT in college. He's getting pushed around all over the place in college. He's on the ground, getting blown off the LOS. He appears to be an inferior talent to Jared Odrick who I liked back then. Same sort of guy but Cox has far less ability to anchor and collapse the pocket with strength. He's only a junior so I guess he has some additional room to develop, but he simply plays like what any team could get from putting a large defensive end inside at tackle. |
Let me guess, you got all that from watching one play on Youtube, right? |
That is where he gets his, "game tape" from. |
haha ya but i do semi share the same concerns about cox vs the run, but he is strong & has atleast 10lbs that he could add to his frame no problem.
Him & jenkins up the middle could do damage on this d-line in the wide9.
but does anyone else get the bad feeling that cox looks like Bunkley 2.0? |
It's my belief that Cox could fill a similar role to Jenkins in the wide 9. He would rotate in when the 2nd line comes in in the same spot. I would not put him at 1 tech. |
Agree thats actually the comparison that I have for Cox is jenkins, but if we're gonna go DT in the 1st why not trade trade all the way back to the end of the 1st collect more picks & take Worthy who can play 1tech/NT for us.
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killdawabbit
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| bkb77 wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: | | bkb77 wrote: | | birdman0069 wrote: | | killdawabbit wrote: | | PowerElite wrote: | | This Fletcher Cox guy plays like a 43 left end that put on another 10 or so pounds to play DT in college. He's getting pushed around all over the place in college. He's on the ground, getting blown off the LOS. He appears to be an inferior talent to Jared Odrick who I liked back then. Same sort of guy but Cox has far less ability to anchor and collapse the pocket with strength. He's only a junior so I guess he has some additional room to develop, but he simply plays like what any team could get from putting a large defensive end inside at tackle. |
Let me guess, you got all that from watching one play on Youtube, right? |
That is where he gets his, "game tape" from. |
haha ya but i do semi share the same concerns about cox vs the run, but he is strong & has atleast 10lbs that he could add to his frame no problem.
Him & jenkins up the middle could do damage on this d-line in the wide9.
but does anyone else get the bad feeling that cox looks like Bunkley 2.0? |
It's my belief that Cox could fill a similar role to Jenkins in the wide 9. He would rotate in when the 2nd line comes in in the same spot. I would not put him at 1 tech. |
Agree thats actually the comparison that I have for Cox is jenkins, but if we're gonna go DT in the 1st why not trade trade all the way back to the end of the 1st collect more picks & take Worthy who can play 1tech/NT for us. |
Because Worthy's best fit is also at 3 tech? Plus he's got conditioning issues. I wouldn't be terribly upset if that happened, though. I just think Cox is the best 3 tech in the draft.
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Would love Fletcher Cox, he won't have to be a starter from day one, but he will play a lot, and under the guidance from Washburn and heir to Cullen Jenkins - Yes please.
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I like Konz and Castro in the 1st.
But i would love a balls to the wall trade for Blackmon/Floyd or Dre Kirkpatrick(move to FS) <3 <3
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I was remembering back to the whole SAM being an elite playmaker in Juan's scheme, I could see us targeting Zack Brown to be the safety/linebacker hybrid he wants.
How in awe would the world be if we took Brown over Kuechly.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ninjapirate wrote: | I was remembering back to the whole SAM being an elite playmaker in Juan's scheme, I could see us targeting Zack Brown to be the safety/linebacker hybrid he wants.
How in awe would the world be if we took Brown over Kuechly. |
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | I was remembering back to the whole SAM being an elite playmaker in Juan's scheme, I could see us targeting Zack Brown to be the safety/linebacker hybrid he wants.
How in awe would the world be if we took Brown over Kuechly. |
Jeezla would cry his eyes out |
Not saying it's the thing to do, but I think we trade down from 15 if targeting Brown. Late 1st-Early 2nd IMO.
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| Eagles_808 wrote: | | EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | I was remembering back to the whole SAM being an elite playmaker in Juan's scheme, I could see us targeting Zack Brown to be the safety/linebacker hybrid he wants.
How in awe would the world be if we took Brown over Kuechly. |
Jeezla would cry his eyes out |
Not saying it's the thing to do, but I think we trade down from 15 if targeting Brown. Late 1st-Early 2nd IMO. |
Trade down with the ravens, they will need to come up above the bengals to get one of the guards.
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bkb77
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| ninjapirate wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | ninjapirate wrote: | I was remembering back to the whole SAM being an elite playmaker in Juan's scheme, I could see us targeting Zack Brown to be the safety/linebacker hybrid he wants.
How in awe would the world be if we took Brown over Kuechly. |
Jeezla would cry his eyes out |
Not saying it's the thing to do, but I think we trade down from 15 if targeting Brown. Late 1st-Early 2nd IMO. |
Trade down with the ravens, they will need to come up above the bengals to get one of the guards. |
That could work and If Floyd falls then Cle at 22(4,5) or what I like the best Pats at 27 or 31(48,3rd,4th) if Michael Floyds there I could see NE trading all the way up to get the reciever they want plus Andy & Bill make a trade every year so why not.
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PowerElite
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| Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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It's my belief that Cox could fill a similar role to Jenkins in the wide 9. He would rotate in when the 2nd line comes in in the same spot. I would not put him at 1 tech. |
So you suggest that the Eagles draft a reserve player at #15 to backup a productive recently signed free agent to theoretically do the same exact thing that recent free agent signing does?
Thanks. I'm going to title my next mock "Reidundancy" in dedication to all of the Fletcher Cox fans that want him to be Cullen Jenkins' backup with the #15 pick in the NFL draft. |
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