Out with the OLD, in with the NEW

[DJC71]

Considering he was one of the few players who never gave up last season, I'd keep him... unless it's a deal we can't refuse.

[Frank Costello]

[disaacs]

Jared Allen makes over $11.5M this season and $14.2M in 2013...then, he hits free agency. I suspect that, if the team makes enough progress this season, he'll extend the contract for another 3-4 years, which might take him to age 35. But, then again, they might let him walk since he'll be 31/32 at the end of the contract.
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Thx to Uncle Buck!

[PrplChilPill]

Every player is a free agent every year.

If the vikings cut him now, his salary (less some dead money) comes off the books. So, in effect, they are deciding to sign him for $11.5MM this year, and $14.2MM next year.

You all argued signing CBs and OGs and WRs that are young, but expensive, was a bad idea. Why is signing (in effect) Allen a good idea?

IF this is really a 3-5 year rebuilding project, now is the time to trade him.

I don't agree that it has to take 5 years, but if you refuse to sign impact starters in FA, it will likely take that long.

It's easy to say "terrible idea", but that statement is not consistent with your statements about not bringing in other FAs for big money. It just is not logically consistent.

So, if you could get a younger starter and a first round pick for him, why would you not do that?

btw, I think you could get more than the vikings gave up, as he's been sober for the whole time he's been here, and he's been great too.
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[vikingsrule]

[PrplChilPill]

[vikingsrule]

I dont know if its a bad idea, its a costly one.

[disaacs]

[ArcticNorseman]

When you look at the history of top DEs going someplace and making a difference I can think of a few:
1. Reggie White to GB
2. Neil Smith to Denver
3. Julius Peppers to Chicago
4. Jared Allen to the Vikes.

If people want to dispute Jared's worth/value, I think he's worth every cent of $15 million a year. Why? He keeps himself in pristine shape, he's dynamic on and off the field, and when the team was at the bottom of the valley of crap, he remained a stalwart competitor and against teams that ran the ball effectively and while fighting through chips and doubles every other play, he still racked up 22 sacks - and that's a wedge of what he actually produced.

That's more than just understanding coaching and playing a position - he's a force on a whole other plane, and this team NEEDS that, especially with Adrian going down.

Granted he can't do it all by himselft, but he's the rigth guy to yell "Charge!!!"

That said, find a trade in excess the magnitude of what the Vikes paid for Hershel and I'd consider it from a business standpoint . . . otherwise, it's good talk in dull times . . .

[vikingsrule]

The bigger question is, who do you replace Allen with? 4-3 De is one of the hardest positions to draft and the picks your trading Allen for, your likely just going to be using on a DE that will be know where near as impactful as Allen is right now and over the next 5+ years (i dont buy that he wouldnt resign with the team if they are showing progress).

[Purple Faithful]

[vikingsrule]

your not getting more than 2 first round picks for Allen, the only position right now that commands two first round picks is the QB position.

[Purple Faithful]

[VikeSince70]

[the_cote_kid]