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Flaccomania
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| Sessy wrote: | | SnA ExclusiVe wrote: | He can't play anymore?
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Seriously, that's your argument.
Wow, I rest my case. |
Based off of 4 catches in 9 regular season games played, yeah, I'd say he's lost it.
The fact that besides the Jags (one of the most desperate teams for WR talent in the league) there was no reported interest from anyone seems to back that up. Oh yeah, that and the aforementioned .44 catches per game in the regular season too. Let's not forget that.
And don't use the "he was injured" excuse for him either. The man played in 11 games altogether and he caught 8 passes. There have been WR's who have played with worse injuries than Evans' and caught 8 passes in one game.
Some people just lose it quickly and never get it back. Evans is one of those guys. So was Foxworth, so was Mason, and so was Chad Ochocinco in my estimation.
Oh well, maybe after the 2012 season were Evans catches 10 passes we will bring this conversation back up, but I doubt it, so I guess for now we will agree to disagree. I tend to blame the guy who messed up for his mistakes, not everyone else. But that's just me... |
I wouldn't hold the # of catches against him... he barely saw any snaps despite "playing" in those games.
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I have to say, while SnA's response sort of turned... well, classic SnA, he has a good point. Based on the small sample size of a healthy Evans seeing snaps in the playoffs, he was pretty darn good out there.
He had a clutch 30 yard catch against the Texans that really helped us win that game. Against NE, he was simply phenomenal in his ability to force the defense to focus more on him. He was making plays when he got his chance out there. He made some key catches in key moments.
Evans dropping that ball is NOT the death-knoll. He still has wheels to move. He still has great hands. And that touchdown drop as much as many want to point the blame on Evans isn't 100% his fault. The defender made an amazing play on the ball. People are grilling him as if he were wide open at the back of the endzone and felt the pressure. Evans made a great would-be-catch.. that got knocked out of his hands at the last second. People would like to act like Calvin Johnson catches that, honestly if the ball is thrown the same way (perfect pass to someone like Evans that isn't a redzone threat) and all things held constant, it'd be difficult for Megatron to hold onto that pass BEFORE he's had time to tuck it firmly into his grasp. Evans was still in the process of "catching" when it happened.
If there is any blame, I think the blame is on our situation in general. We have no true redzone receiving threat. Our redzone offense had been inefficient all season. We have no WR where we can just play catch with- like a Megatron- a guy you throw it up to and take advantage of his 40" vertical and awesome size.
Evans isn't done at all, he's likely received little interest not because he's "lost it" but because a) he could've been asking for too much money and b) His durability history.
It should also be noted that most teams would rather have waited to see what they could get in the draft before looking towards the secondary receiver market... which Evans exists as a part of.
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FlaccoForever
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| diamondbull424 wrote: | I have to say, while SnA's response sort of turned... well, classic SnA, he has a good point. Based on the small sample size of a healthy Evans seeing snaps in the playoffs, he was pretty darn good out there.
He had a clutch 30 yard catch against the Texans that really helped us win that game. Against NE, he was simply phenomenal in his ability to force the defense to focus more on him. He was making plays when he got his chance out there. He made some key catches in key moments.
Evans dropping that ball is NOT the death-knoll. He still has wheels to move. He still has great hands. And that touchdown drop as much as many want to point the blame on Evans isn't 100% his fault. The defender made an amazing play on the ball. People are grilling him as if he were wide open at the back of the endzone and felt the pressure. Evans made a great would-be-catch.. that got knocked out of his hands at the last second. People would like to act like Calvin Johnson catches that, honestly if the ball is thrown the same way (perfect pass to someone like Evans that isn't a redzone threat) and all things held constant, it'd be difficult for Megatron to hold onto that pass BEFORE he's had time to tuck it firmly into his grasp. Evans was still in the process of "catching" when it happened.
If there is any blame, I think the blame is on our situation in general. We have no true redzone receiving threat. Our redzone offense had been inefficient all season. We have no WR where we can just play catch with- like a Megatron- a guy you throw it up to and take advantage of his 40" vertical and awesome size.
Evans isn't done at all, he's likely received little interest not because he's "lost it" but because a) he could've been asking for too much money and b) His durability history.
It should also be noted that most teams would rather have waited to see what they could get in the draft before looking towards the secondary receiver market... which Evans exists as a part of. |
Well said diamond, Evans can still get it done but he just wasn't a good fit here scheme wise. He will fit in fine with the Jaguars because he did well under Mularkey when they were in Buffalo. The Ravens need a big tall athletic WR who fits Cam's vertical offense and Cam has always loved big WRs. |
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diamondbull424
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| FlaccoForever wrote: |
Well said diamond, Evans can still get it done but he just wasn't a good fit here scheme wise. He will fit in fine with the Jaguars because he did well under Mularkey when they were in Buffalo. The Ravens need a big tall athletic WR who fits Cam's vertical offense and Cam has always loved big WRs. |
Agreed. I think the Ravens really need to focus on upgrading the strength/athleticism of our receiving position. I just think the Evans "drop" is some sort of tough lesson from the football gods about revealing our needs. Evans catches that, we win the Super Bowl- perhaps it sugar coats our need for a redzone threat. Perhaps when we look back on this season and our redzone offense we say things like, "Flacco has proven that he can get it done in the redzone with our weapons" as opposed to saying, "Flacco would be even more lethal as a QB option if he had a big, strong, athletic receiver in the redzone".
Honestly though, I recall the first Texans game where Flacco and Boldin were straight killing it... until we got into the redzone. Then suddenly we had no receiving threat to do anything for Flacco. Ray Rice was able to TD vulture and get us the points we needed, but just imagine how much better Flacco's TD numbers would've looked like if on those 2-3 drives or so, he gets the ball into a redzone threat.. now expound that over a whole season. I'm sure he's finally eclipsing the 30 TD mark. I just hope the front office isn't content with our current receiver situation. I want a big, tall, strong, athletic guy. If only we could somehow find a way to get three 2nd round picks to select, Zeitler, Jeffery, and Kendricks... or if Jeffery slips to our 2nd and Kendricks slips to our 3rd... 
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| diamondbull424 wrote: | I have to say, while SnA's response sort of turned... well, classic SnA, he has a good point. Based on the small sample size of a healthy Evans seeing snaps in the playoffs, he was pretty darn good out there.
He had a clutch 30 yard catch against the Texans that really helped us win that game. Against NE, he was simply phenomenal in his ability to force the defense to focus more on him. He was making plays when he got his chance out there. He made some key catches in key moments.
Evans dropping that ball is NOT the death-knoll. He still has wheels to move. He still has great hands. And that touchdown drop as much as many want to point the blame on Evans isn't 100% his fault. The defender made an amazing play on the ball. People are grilling him as if he were wide open at the back of the endzone and felt the pressure. Evans made a great would-be-catch.. that got knocked out of his hands at the last second. People would like to act like Calvin Johnson catches that, honestly if the ball is thrown the same way (perfect pass to someone like Evans that isn't a redzone threat) and all things held constant, it'd be difficult for Megatron to hold onto that pass BEFORE he's had time to tuck it firmly into his grasp. Evans was still in the process of "catching" when it happened.
If there is any blame, I think the blame is on our situation in general. We have no true redzone receiving threat. Our redzone offense had been inefficient all season. We have no WR where we can just play catch with- like a Megatron- a guy you throw it up to and take advantage of his 40" vertical and awesome size.
Evans isn't done at all, he's likely received little interest not because he's "lost it" but because a) he could've been asking for too much money and b) His durability history.
It should also be noted that most teams would rather have waited to see what they could get in the draft before looking towards the secondary receiver market... which Evans exists as a part of. |
100% agree. I wanted Evans back.
My whole disagreement with SnA was purely over the blaming of Cam/Joe/Harbaugh for Evans' drop.
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| Flaccomania wrote: | | diamondbull424 wrote: | I have to say, while SnA's response sort of turned... well, classic SnA, he has a good point. Based on the small sample size of a healthy Evans seeing snaps in the playoffs, he was pretty darn good out there.
He had a clutch 30 yard catch against the Texans that really helped us win that game. Against NE, he was simply phenomenal in his ability to force the defense to focus more on him. He was making plays when he got his chance out there. He made some key catches in key moments.
Evans dropping that ball is NOT the death-knoll. He still has wheels to move. He still has great hands. And that touchdown drop as much as many want to point the blame on Evans isn't 100% his fault. The defender made an amazing play on the ball. People are grilling him as if he were wide open at the back of the endzone and felt the pressure. Evans made a great would-be-catch.. that got knocked out of his hands at the last second. People would like to act like Calvin Johnson catches that, honestly if the ball is thrown the same way (perfect pass to someone like Evans that isn't a redzone threat) and all things held constant, it'd be difficult for Megatron to hold onto that pass BEFORE he's had time to tuck it firmly into his grasp. Evans was still in the process of "catching" when it happened.
If there is any blame, I think the blame is on our situation in general. We have no true redzone receiving threat. Our redzone offense had been inefficient all season. We have no WR where we can just play catch with- like a Megatron- a guy you throw it up to and take advantage of his 40" vertical and awesome size.
Evans isn't done at all, he's likely received little interest not because he's "lost it" but because a) he could've been asking for too much money and b) His durability history.
It should also be noted that most teams would rather have waited to see what they could get in the draft before looking towards the secondary receiver market... which Evans exists as a part of. |
100% agree. I wanted Evans back.
My whole disagreement with SnA was purely over the blaming of Cam/Joe/Harbaugh for Evans' drop. |
I feel the same exact way. That's where my disagreement was. I would have certainly liked Evans back on a cheaper deal.
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