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Steelers546
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 Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject: What position will Sean Spence play? |
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As far as I know, wasn't he a 4-3 OLB? Do you think he plays OLB or ILB for us?
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jcm412
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| He will play ILB. Butler has already said he will back up Timmons. |
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whit09
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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In the presser, the Steelers said he will be a backup to Timmons.
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Steelers546
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Oh ok, thanks for the info guys. I didn't know Butler already commented on this.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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probably going to do a lot of time in the nickel as coverage is something of a specialty with him.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| kethnaab wrote: | | probably going to do a lot of time in the nickel as coverage is something of a specialty with him. |
What are you "sensing" our nickel package to look like that?? |
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SMashMouthMike
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If the kid is at any more of a physical disadvantage by gaining weight, I do not try to change him.
If I want him to make an impact quickly, i do nothing to change him physically.
If he plays more like a strong safety or projects to one in the nfl, I get him with Lake(who also made the LB to safety change) and I keep him at about the weight where he was flying around in those highlights. I also have him study Polamalu.
And in our nickel defense(maybe out base against elite passing offenses) I take out the nose tackle and put this guy in.
If this doesn't work, then I have Spence try to gain weight and play LB.
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Spence is a ILB not a safety he won't be put at safety. I have know idea why Steelers fans always want to transition a player from one position to the next. His size has very little to do with how he plays. He's not stacking and shedding OL as K. Butler mentioned. The game is now about misdirection and players like Spence with his instincts and play diagnosis are key.
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SMashMouthMike
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| Quote: | | Spence is a ILB not a safety he won't be put at safety. I have know idea why Steelers fans always want to transition a player from one position to the next. His size has very little to do with how he plays. He's not stacking and shedding OL as K. Butler mentioned. The game is now about misdirection and players like Spence with his instincts and play diagnosis are key. |
I just believe there are certain fundamentals that do not change too much. LBs in the 34 line up right acrossed from guards. Baltimore's guards will try to blugeon those linebackers at times. Zeitler will too. And, if that doesn't work they will motion a FB or a Hback to lead. That's at least what I would do.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| SMashMouthMike wrote: | | Quote: | | Spence is a ILB not a safety he won't be put at safety. I have know idea why Steelers fans always want to transition a player from one position to the next. His size has very little to do with how he plays. He's not stacking and shedding OL as K. Butler mentioned. The game is now about misdirection and players like Spence with his instincts and play diagnosis are key. |
I just believe there are certain fundamentals that do not change too much. LBs in the 34 line up right acrossed from guards. Baltimore's guards will try to blugeon those linebackers at times. Zeitler will too. And, if that doesn't work they will motion a FB or a Hback to lead. That's at least what I would do. |
They have to move Casey or Ta'amu to do that. If they must double team to try and move them then that is one OG on 2 LBs. That is the change in the defense since the time of Kirkland and Bell. Since the Steelers have drafted Casey Hampton they went to smaller ILBs.
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SMashMouthMike
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| Quote: | | They have to move Casey or Ta'amu to do that. If they must double team to try and move them then that is one OG on 2 LBs. That is the change in the defense since the time of Kirkland and Bell. Since the Steelers have drafted Casey Hampton they went to smaller ILBs. |
That is all true, but having a right guard, like Zeitler or Yanda for argument's sake, pull to the LG-LT weakside hole doesn't bother you? It bothers me a little cause I see a 5 yard gain.
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| SMashMouthMike wrote: | | Quote: | | They have to move Casey or Ta'amu to do that. If they must double team to try and move them then that is one OG on 2 LBs. That is the change in the defense since the time of Kirkland and Bell. Since the Steelers have drafted Casey Hampton they went to smaller ILBs. |
That is all true, but having a right guard, like Zeitler or Yanda for argument's sake, pull to the LG-LT weakside hole doesn't bother you? It bothers me a little cause I see a 5 yard gain. |
Burk could not block Casey 1:1 and I expect it will be worst with Ta'amu. It is more likely the Ravens will go for the knees again since you do not need an all pro guard to cut at the knees.
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| SMashMouthMike wrote: | | Quote: | | Spence is a ILB not a safety he won't be put at safety. I have know idea why Steelers fans always want to transition a player from one position to the next. His size has very little to do with how he plays. He's not stacking and shedding OL as K. Butler mentioned. The game is now about misdirection and players like Spence with his instincts and play diagnosis are key. |
I just believe there are certain fundamentals that do not change too much. LBs in the 34 line up right acrossed from guards. Baltimore's guards will try to blugeon those linebackers at times. Zeitler will too. And, if that doesn't work they will motion a FB or a Hback to lead. That's at least what I would do. |
Last year in the Houston game and moving forward teams had use so much misdirection against the Steelers it was insane. J. Farrior at the stage of his career didn't have the athletic ability to makes the necessary plays required to shut down those plays. Now it's not all on Farrior as it's a 11 man game. But having another instinctual athletic quick ILB like Spence gives the Steelers a chance to counter those type of plays.
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I remember Houston gashing us well with those zone runs. It is a matchup problem for our entire 2 gap system. Penetrating dlinemen disrupt it, I imagine LB's could too. But, it all starts at the nosetackle. Hopefully that's McClendon's specialty now because Hampton would get clipped, fall down with a backside guard and cutoff any backside pursuit. there's some large running lanes created that way.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| SteelProven wrote: | | Spence is a ILB not a safety he won't be put at safety. I have know idea why Steelers fans always want to transition a player from one position to the next. His size has very little to do with how he plays. He's not stacking and shedding OL as K. Butler mentioned. The game is now about misdirection and players like Spence with his instincts and play diagnosis are key. |
The main reason people were talking about POSSIBLY switching him to safety was due his skillset, size and strength. His size absolutely does affect how he plays and what he is capable of. More than that, his strength...or lack thereof. The game may have alot of misdirection but LBs still have to be able to get off their blocks...thats not even up for debate. Spence has a small frame and is pretty weak, yet he has good instincts and excels in coverage.
He wont be switched to safety, but the thought process behind doing it is more than legit.
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