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tylerdouglass 
 Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 14168 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:03 pm Post subject: Way too early projected depth chart. |
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Way too early, but I'm bored.
Offense (25):
QB: Drew Brees, Chase Daniel
HB: Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Mark Ingram, Chris Ivory, Travaris Cadet
FB: Jed Collins
TE: Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Michael Higgins
WR 1: Marques Colston, Nick Toon
WR 2: Devery Henderson, Joe Morgan
Slot: Lance Moore
LT: Jermon Bushrod, Charles Brown
LG: Ben Grubbs, Andrew Tiller
C: Brian De La Puenta, Matt Tennant
RG: Jahri Evans
RT: Zach Strief, Marcel Jones
Defense (24):
RE: Will Smith*, Junior Gallete, Greg Romeus
DT: Brodrick Bunkley, Akiem Hicks
DT: Sedrick Ellis, Tom Johnson
LE: Cameron Jordan, Turk McBride
WLB: David Hawthorne, Chris Chamberlain, Jonathan Casillas
MLB: Curtis Lofton, [David Hawthorne]
SLB: Martez Wilson, Will Herring
CB 1: Jabari Greer, Corey White
CB 2: Patrick Robinson, Cord Parks
Nickle: Johnny Patrick
FS: Malcolm Jenkins, Isa Abdul-Quddus
SS: Roman Harper, Jonathon Amaya
Special Teams (3):
LS: Justin Drescher
K: Garrett Hartley
P: Thomas Morstead
KR: [Darren Sproles]
PR: [Darren Sproles]
Rookie
* 4 week suspension
Guys I'm not sure about:
Jonathan Casillas - Dude can't stay healthy, and the signing of Chris Chamberlain has made him expendable.
Will Herring - If Lofton moves to SLB, I could see Herring being pushed off the roster. Also, if Lofton is playing great at MLB, Vilma may return to the WLB position, while Hawthorne moves to SLB.
Travaris Cadet - $30,000 signing bonus makes me think the Saints want to get this guy on the roster. That's a lot to pay a guy, just to push him to the PS. Maybe Ivory or PT is expendable?
Courtney Roby - This is a guy I could see getting cut to make room for Cadet.
Guys I don't see making the team.
Adrian Arrington - I don't see this guy making the roster. He's been given several chances, and not done anything memorable.
Nate Bussey - Sorry Martez, your buddy won't be making the team. For once, the Saints are crowded at the LB spot, and Bussey is the odd man out.
Korey Hall - No idea why the Saints kept 2 FBs on the field. Maybe a lack of young guys to fill the special teams positions? Hopefully some young guys will fill those holes.
Scott Shanle - I know the coaches love this guy for god knows why. But this is by far the most competitive the LB positions have looked. I think he gets pushed out this year. _________________

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Raves
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Pretty good but a couple of things:
-One of Morgan/Roby have to go. Both fill the same role, 5th/6th WR and return depth. I just think Morgan is better fit for both, especially since Morgan can fill the deep threat role.
-I think Arrington actually makes the team this year and if not is at least kept on the PS. When he has been given the chance you said he hasn't been remarkable, but the guy played well. The problem is that the same role he fills would be that of Colston as the big possession receiver. I could see him taking the spot of Roby on the chart as that would give us a pretty good redzone offense with Colston/Arrington/Toon/Graham/Sproles.
-On the DL move Romeus to RE. If healthy I think he could actually be the starter while Smith is gone and the 2nd guy on the depth chart. He's more of a pass rusher than a run stopper though he isn't a real liability against the run either.
-At linebacker I hope that's how it is, but I really am worried about Shanle starting. I think the biggest issue with Wilson is in college he was an athlete playing linebacker and now he's trying to learn the linebacker position and he's just not picking it up the fastest. Doesn't help he's going to now be on his second defense in as many years while Shanle who is an experience veteran will be able to pick it up a faster.
-secondary looks good as does the special teams.
Overall I think this team has a lot of potential but even without suspensions and losing Payton I think we'd be a NFC Championship game team at best this year. Need to learn a new defense and work too many new players in. I think next year though we'll be poised to make a big run, this year I see us making the playoffs and winning 1-2 games in the playoffs before being eliminated by a team like Green Bay, New York, or Chicago. _________________
2011 Stats:
Malcolm Jenkins - 78 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 FF, 9 PD, 1 FRTD
Jimmy Graham - 99 catches, 1310 yards, 11 TD |
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saintsfan 
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 5212 Location: Northeastern University
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:01 am Post subject: |
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You guys think Cord Parks will make it? That'd be super dope, he was one of the football players on the team the year my college cut it for good. Last hope for Northeastern Football to have any sort of importance _________________
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M. Jenkins 94tak 7pd 1int 1td 1fr
P. Thomas 89car 425yds 1TD 22rec 210yds |
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saintsfan 
Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 5212 Location: Northeastern University
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: |
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....and he follows me on Twitter which would be dope  _________________
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M. Jenkins 94tak 7pd 1int 1td 1fr
P. Thomas 89car 425yds 1TD 22rec 210yds |
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Well Spags likes Parks, that's why they signed him. So as long as he isn't quite a bit worse than the next guy, I think he makes it.
Arrington - We we watching the same games? I remember 1 good game out of him, and a couple 1 catch games. In this offense, with his size, he should be putting up better numbers when he comes in. He's been hanging around the team for what, 3, 4 years now? I think if he was going to stick, it would've happened by now. I'm all for giving young guys shots, but right now, Toon and Morgan both get the nod over Arrington.
Romeus would make a better RE, but according to Jeff Duncan, Galette and McBride are competing to play RE in Smith's absence. If they want to get Romeus playing time, I believe it would likely come from LE. How does McBride look at LE?
I think a full offseason will really help Wilson. He was really at a disadvantage last season, coming into a shortened offseason to a position he was used to playing with only his athleticism to rely on.
You're right about Morgan/Roby. I cut Roby, which freed up Cadet, I think he could play both coverage and return on special teams. Based on what I play, he can play just about any position. He's not great at anything, but he's good enough at a lot of things. _________________
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navysaintsfan 
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: |
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A lot of people keep pegging Lance Moore as the "slot" WR. Am I the only one who notices he very sparingly is in as the slot guy? I have seen Devry play the slot far more often. Right now I firmly believe Moore is the #2 WR. _________________
| Leon Sandcastle wrote: | | the level he is playing at is TOP-5 ALL TIME | He is talking...of course...of Tony Romo. |
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sammymvpknight
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| navysaintsfan wrote: | | A lot of people keep pegging Lance Moore as the "slot" WR. Am I the only one who notices he very sparingly is in as the slot guy? I have seen Devry play the slot far more often. Right now I firmly believe Moore is the #2 WR. |
Colston and Graham play a ton of slot...probably more than Moore. Nick Toon looked good playing slot in college.
I think that Arrington is gone. He is actually lucky that Morgan got hurt last year because he was about to get cut then. This idea that Arrington is anything more than amediocre WR is a delusion. He is like Colston...only less explosive, smaller, way skinnier, worst hands, and constantly injured. Sorry...but he is not in the same zip code as Colston. Toon and Morgan well very likely beat him out. And Roby will get the #6 spot if the Saints carry that many because of his special teams. I actually think that Cadet has about as good of a chance as Arrington. |
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navysaintsfan 
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| sammymvpknight wrote: | | navysaintsfan wrote: | | A lot of people keep pegging Lance Moore as the "slot" WR. Am I the only one who notices he very sparingly is in as the slot guy? I have seen Devry play the slot far more often. Right now I firmly believe Moore is the #2 WR. |
Colston and Graham play a ton of slot...probably more than Moore. Nick Toon looked good playing slot in college.
I think that Arrington is gone. He is actually lucky that Morgan got hurt last year because he was about to get cut then. This idea that Arrington is anything more than amediocre WR is a delusion. He is like Colston...only less explosive, smaller, way skinnier, worst hands, and constantly injured. Sorry...but he is not in the same zip code as Colston. Toon and Morgan well very likely beat him out. And Roby will get the #6 spot if the Saints carry that many because of his special teams. I actually think that Cadet has about as good of a chance as Arrington. |
I don't see how you can argue about Arrington's hands. I haven't seen him drop anything really in his limited snaps. That being said, I agree with the rest of your sentiment. I don't think he has the frame to keep up with our WR corps. _________________
| Leon Sandcastle wrote: | | the level he is playing at is TOP-5 ALL TIME | He is talking...of course...of Tony Romo. |
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| navysaintsfan wrote: | | sammymvpknight wrote: | | navysaintsfan wrote: | | A lot of people keep pegging Lance Moore as the "slot" WR. Am I the only one who notices he very sparingly is in as the slot guy? I have seen Devry play the slot far more often. Right now I firmly believe Moore is the #2 WR. |
Colston and Graham play a ton of slot...probably more than Moore. Nick Toon looked good playing slot in college.
I think that Arrington is gone. He is actually lucky that Morgan got hurt last year because he was about to get cut then. This idea that Arrington is anything more than amediocre WR is a delusion. He is like Colston...only less explosive, smaller, way skinnier, worst hands, and constantly injured. Sorry...but he is not in the same zip code as Colston. Toon and Morgan well very likely beat him out. And Roby will get the #6 spot if the Saints carry that many because of his special teams. I actually think that Cadet has about as good of a chance as Arrington. |
I don't see how you can argue about Arrington's hands. I haven't seen him drop anything really in his limited snaps. That being said, I agree with the rest of your sentiment. I don't think he has the frame to keep up with our WR corps. |
I agree, his hands are fine. I don't know what exactly it is though, something about him is off, and that's what he's only had 1 good game.
His route running? Poor separation? No burst off the line? I haven't seen enough to put my finger on it. _________________
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navysaintsfan 
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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To me he just screams #5 WR. He certainly has talent, but drafting a WR like Nick Toon is going to make him expendable. _________________
| Leon Sandcastle wrote: | | the level he is playing at is TOP-5 ALL TIME | He is talking...of course...of Tony Romo. |
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Raves
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| navysaintsfan wrote: | | To me he just screams #5 WR. He certainly has talent, but drafting a WR like Nick Toon is going to make him expendable. |
His issue is injuries. Every year he looks great to start then he gets an injury and can't perform as well as he should. If he can get healthy and actually play, I think he could be good, but he's hurt more than Reggie and when you don't have the talent of a Reggie, and you're constantly hurt, you're on the PS, or quite possibly cut. _________________
2011 Stats:
Malcolm Jenkins - 78 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 FF, 9 PD, 1 FRTD
Jimmy Graham - 99 catches, 1310 yards, 11 TD |
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tylerdouglass 
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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made some changes to reflect suspensions.
You think they bring in a backup MLB, or do they have Hawthorne move to MLB if needed, and Chamberlain and Casillas at WLB? _________________
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