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| RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football.
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| darkomilicic wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football. |
Im not sure the Chiefs want or can utilize a real McCluster. Guys at the NFL level are faster, stronger, and have a better understanding of the game. I dont think Denard will be a useful RB at 5'8" 140 lbs, and he will struggle as a WR as well. He is fast, but i dont see him being very productive in the NFL.
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| Sllim Pickens wrote: | | darkomilicic wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football. |
Im not sure the Chiefs want or can utilize a real McCluster. Guys at the NFL level are faster, stronger, and have a better understanding of the game. I dont think Denard will be a useful RB at 5'8" 140 lbs, and he will struggle as a WR as well. He is fast, but i dont see him being very productive in the NFL. |
Haha, he's listed at 6'1" 193, and while that's probably a bit generous, I don't think he's that small.
I don't think there's any chance he can be a productive passer--we're talking significantly worse than Tim Tebow here--and the only role I imagine he'll be suited for us kick returns. And considering his speed won't be as unusual in the NFL as it is in the Big Ten, I don't even know if he'll be particularly good at it.
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Sllim Pickens
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| RyanFuller003 wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | darkomilicic wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football. |
Im not sure the Chiefs want or can utilize a real McCluster. Guys at the NFL level are faster, stronger, and have a better understanding of the game. I dont think Denard will be a useful RB at 5'8" 140 lbs, and he will struggle as a WR as well. He is fast, but i dont see him being very productive in the NFL. |
Haha, he's listed at 6'1" 193, and while that's probably a bit generous, I don't think he's that small.
I don't think there's any chance he can be a productive passer--we're talking significantly worse than Tim Tebow here--and the only role I imagine he'll be suited for us kick returns. And considering his speed won't be as unusual in the NFL as it is in the Big Ten, I don't even know if he'll be particularly good at it. |
Yeah, a little exageration. I think he might be helpful on a fedw set plays or something but in general, what made him dangerous is that DB's have their back to him, and he is faster than D-lineman and LB's. As a RB/WR he wont have that luxury, so I am not sure he will be a threat.
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| Sllim Pickens wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | darkomilicic wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football. |
Im not sure the Chiefs want or can utilize a real McCluster. Guys at the NFL level are faster, stronger, and have a better understanding of the game. I dont think Denard will be a useful RB at 5'8" 140 lbs, and he will struggle as a WR as well. He is fast, but i dont see him being very productive in the NFL. |
Haha, he's listed at 6'1" 193, and while that's probably a bit generous, I don't think he's that small.
I don't think there's any chance he can be a productive passer--we're talking significantly worse than Tim Tebow here--and the only role I imagine he'll be suited for us kick returns. And considering his speed won't be as unusual in the NFL as it is in the Big Ten, I don't even know if he'll be particularly good at it. |
Yeah, a little exageration. I think he might be helpful on a fedw set plays or something but in general, what made him dangerous is that DB's have their back to him, and he is faster than D-lineman and LB's. As a RB/WR he wont have that luxury, so I am not sure he will be a threat. |
Not sure if serious or trolling.
Denard will measure in at 5'11 or 6'0 190 pounds or better, more than sufficient height/weight for an NFL WR or even RB. He has taken plenty of hits in the Big Ten, so it's not like he is playing in some small conference with small, slow defenses. He is also always the fastest or one of the fastest players on the field, WR and DB included. An Antwaan Randle El comparison is probably the most accurate player comparison for Denard, a dynamic, elite play-making QB that translates to WR at the next level. He is also the ultimate team guy and a hard worker, not some me-first type guy with work ethic questions.
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Sllim Pickens
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| 1King wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | darkomilicic wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football. |
Im not sure the Chiefs want or can utilize a real McCluster. Guys at the NFL level are faster, stronger, and have a better understanding of the game. I dont think Denard will be a useful RB at 5'8" 140 lbs, and he will struggle as a WR as well. He is fast, but i dont see him being very productive in the NFL. |
Haha, he's listed at 6'1" 193, and while that's probably a bit generous, I don't think he's that small.
I don't think there's any chance he can be a productive passer--we're talking significantly worse than Tim Tebow here--and the only role I imagine he'll be suited for us kick returns. And considering his speed won't be as unusual in the NFL as it is in the Big Ten, I don't even know if he'll be particularly good at it. |
Yeah, a little exageration. I think he might be helpful on a fedw set plays or something but in general, what made him dangerous is that DB's have their back to him, and he is faster than D-lineman and LB's. As a RB/WR he wont have that luxury, so I am not sure he will be a threat. |
Not sure if serious or trolling.
Denard will measure in at 5'11 or 6'0 190 pounds or better, more than sufficient height/weight for an NFL WR or even RB. He has taken plenty of hits in the Big Ten, so it's not like he is playing in some small conference with small, slow defenses. He is also always the fastest or one of the fastest players on the field, WR and DB included. An Antwaan Randle El comparison is probably the most accurate player comparison for Denard, a dynamic, elite play-making QB that translates to WR at the next level. He is also the ultimate team guy and a hard worker, not some me-first type guy with work ethic questions. |
I amserious, not trolling since this is a Lions thread, not a Michigan one. Sure there are some QB's that translated well but do we know if he can catch, can he run routes or is he just shifty when DB's are running away from him. Without any threat of pass I dont think he is much of a threat. Also he wears down quickly throughout the season. I want nothing to do with him unless it is a 6th or 7th round pick and even then I would be skeptical.
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| Sllim Pickens wrote: | | 1King wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | darkomilicic wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football. |
Im not sure the Chiefs want or can utilize a real McCluster. Guys at the NFL level are faster, stronger, and have a better understanding of the game. I dont think Denard will be a useful RB at 5'8" 140 lbs, and he will struggle as a WR as well. He is fast, but i dont see him being very productive in the NFL. |
Haha, he's listed at 6'1" 193, and while that's probably a bit generous, I don't think he's that small.
I don't think there's any chance he can be a productive passer--we're talking significantly worse than Tim Tebow here--and the only role I imagine he'll be suited for us kick returns. And considering his speed won't be as unusual in the NFL as it is in the Big Ten, I don't even know if he'll be particularly good at it. |
Yeah, a little exageration. I think he might be helpful on a fedw set plays or something but in general, what made him dangerous is that DB's have their back to him, and he is faster than D-lineman and LB's. As a RB/WR he wont have that luxury, so I am not sure he will be a threat. |
Not sure if serious or trolling.
Denard will measure in at 5'11 or 6'0 190 pounds or better, more than sufficient height/weight for an NFL WR or even RB. He has taken plenty of hits in the Big Ten, so it's not like he is playing in some small conference with small, slow defenses. He is also always the fastest or one of the fastest players on the field, WR and DB included. An Antwaan Randle El comparison is probably the most accurate player comparison for Denard, a dynamic, elite play-making QB that translates to WR at the next level. He is also the ultimate team guy and a hard worker, not some me-first type guy with work ethic questions. |
I amserious, not trolling since this is a Lions thread, not a Michigan one. Sure there are some QB's that translated well but do we know if he can catch, can he run routes or is he just shifty when DB's are running away from him. Without any threat of pass I dont think he is much of a threat. Also he wears down quickly throughout the season. I want nothing to do with him unless it is a 6th or 7th round pick and even then I would be skeptical. |
You can quote me on this: Denard Robinson will not make it out of the 2nd round.
He will be drafted as a playmaking WR full of potential. Kiper already has him as a top 3 WR in the next draft class and if any team needs a speed demon WR hes their man. Denard will run at least a 4.3 40 and he ran track for Michigan his freshman year and won the Big Ten's 80 Meter if I am correct (I dont know much about track), so trust me Denard will get drafted early. I dont know if I would take him that early but someone will. Hes a great kid and even a better athlete. I think Desean Jackson as a fair comparison for him, but thats if he pans out, if not he is like a Devin Hester type. |
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I agree he will be drafted before that, i just wouldnt do it. A lot of guys ran track and a lot of guys are fast, that dosnt mean they are good WR's. Denard has shown he is shifty when being rushed by DE's and DT'
s, and that he can break away in the open field, but he hasnt shown me he can catch or create the space needed on his own.
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| Louis Delmas26 wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | 1King wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | Sllim Pickens wrote: | | darkomilicic wrote: | | RyanFuller003 wrote: | | LionsFTW wrote: | | You lost me at Denard Robinson |
I would probably vomit if we drafted Robinson for any reason. I don't even like him as a college QB. |
For the Lions, he doesn't fit. But you don't think a team that could use a McCluster type WR/RB would give him a look? He's not a QB, but he's one of the best athletes in college football. |
Im not sure the Chiefs want or can utilize a real McCluster. Guys at the NFL level are faster, stronger, and have a better understanding of the game. I dont think Denard will be a useful RB at 5'8" 140 lbs, and he will struggle as a WR as well. He is fast, but i dont see him being very productive in the NFL.
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Haha, he's listed at 6'1" 193, and while that's probably a bit generous, I don't think he's that small.
I don't think there's any chance he can be a productive passer--we're talking significantly worse than Tim Tebow here--and the only role I imagine he'll be suited for us kick returns. And considering his speed won't be as unusual in the NFL as it is in the Big Ten, I don't even know if he'll be particularly good at it. |
Yeah, a little exageration. I think he might be helpful on a fedw set plays or something but in general, what made him dangerous is that DB's have their back to him, and he is faster than D-lineman and LB's. As a RB/WR he wont have that luxury, so I am not sure he will be a threat. |
Not sure if serious or trolling.
Denard will measure in at 5'11 or 6'0 190 pounds or better, more than
sufficient height/weight for an NFL WR or even RB. He has taken plenty of hits in the Big Ten, so it's not like he is playing in some small conference with small, slow defenses. He is also always the fastest or one of the fastest players on the field, WR and DB included. An Antwaan Randle El comparison is probably the most accurate player comparison for Denard, a dynamic, elite play-making QB that translates to WR at the next level. He is also the ultimate team guy and a hard worker, not some me-first type guy with work ethic questions. |
I amserious, not trolling since this is a Lions thread, not a Michigan one. Sure there are some QB's that translated well but do we know if he can catch, can
he run routes or is he just shifty when DB's are running away from him. Without any threat of pass I dont think he is much of a threat. Also he wears down quickly throughout the season. I want nothing to do with him unless it is a 6th or 7th round pick and even then I would be skeptical. |
You can quote me on this: Denard Robinson will not make it out of the 2nd round.
He will be drafted as a playmaking WR full of potential. Kiper already has him as a top 3 WR in the next draft class and if any team needs a speed demon WR hes their man. Denard will run at least a 4.3 40 and he ran track for Michigan his freshman year and won the Big Ten's 80 Meter if I am correct (I dont know much about track), so trust me Denard will get drafted early. I dont know if I would take him that early but someone will. Hes a great kid and
even a better athlete. I think Desean Jackson as a fair comparison for him, but thats if he pans out, if not he is like a Devin Hester type. |
I don't understand how you can compare him to Jackson. Jackson has been a receiver through high school and college while Robinson has never played the position.
As for speed the best 40 time I have ever read for him was 4.32. I would expect his time will be slower not faster.
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Yea hes gonna be a good one for sure. IMO the 1st CB off the board next year. That was a sick college catch too, though i am sure that would be an incomplete pass in the pros
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Couple positions to keep an eye on, honestly it'll probably be the same as this year:
OFFENSE
OT- Even with Rieff, Backus is nearly done and Goz's deal is up next season. Fox has yet to step up and Hilliard looks like a solid backup at best.
Options: Fluker (ALA), Henderson (MIA), Matthews (TA&M)
OG- Peterman isn't getting any younger and should be replaced sooner rather than later.
Options: Jones (ALA), Bailey (ARK), Warford (UK)
OC- Dom is nearing the end, no solid replacement lined up yet.
Options: Habern (OU), Benavides (LOU), Johnson (SC)
RB- Question marks still surround Best and LeShoure until they can prove otherwise.
Options: Lattimore (SC), Dyer (UAB), Ball (WISC)
DEFENSE
DE- Avril and Jackson are scheduled to be FA, KVB is nearing the end.
Options: Paige-Moss (UNC), Jenkins (FSU), Taylor (SC), Massaquoi (TROY)
LB- Levy and Durant are free.
Options: Johnson (ALA), Jenkins (UF), Thomas (STAN), Powell (UF)
CB- Houston is a FA, no real building blocks at the position currently.
Options: Rhodes (FSU), Evans (NEB), Trufant (WASH)
S- Delmas is a FA, Spievey is ok at best.
Options: Lester (ALA), McDonald (USC), Jefferson (OU)
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Options: Fluker (ALA), Henderson (MIA), Matthews (TA&M) |
Feels like he was just a highly touted recruit just yesterday. Any one know how he has been at Miami? Haven't been able to keep up with him.
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