Holmgren pulls rank again?

brownie_415 · Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 752 Location: Las Vegas

This article is pretty vague, hopefully we get a bit of clarification.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828d7424/article/did-browns-holmgren-pull-rank-on-weeden-pick

mistakebytehlak · Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 38642 Location: Brooklyn, NY

no. heckert gushed about weeden, pre and post draft.

additionally, that holmgren quote was talking about a process way earlier in the talent evaluation process.
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ReggieCamp · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 8661 Location: Canonsburg, PA

I saw that Holmgren quote last week, and a lot of people thought he was talking about the decision to move up to get Richardson.

You're right. It's vague. All we can do is speculate.

But the "good" news is that it keeps the Holmgren hatred burning bright. If you hated the move up for Trent, you can blame Holmgren. If you hated the Weeden pick, you can blame Holmgren. It's a hatred win-win!!!!
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brownie_415 · Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 752 Location: Las Vegas

I have no hatred for either, just to be clear. I am skeptical on Weeden, but I do not hate the pick. It seems weird because I thought they were 100% on both picks. It almost seems like if it was about Weeden, Holmgren wants the credit, good or bad?

brownie_415 · Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 752 Location: Las Vegas

I guess re-reading the article it makes more sense about the trade up for TRich. It really makes no sense for Holmgren to come out and say that about an actual draftee.

mistakebytehlak · Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 38642 Location: Brooklyn, NY

coulda been him pulling rank on the offer for RGIII.

i really think weeden's been the apple of heckert's eye since the beginning. everytime heckert was asked about him, he gushed.
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Onizuka · Joined: 10 Dec 2011 Posts: 653 Location: Austin, TX

Yea, I agree that it sounds more about the TRich pick. My only guess would be that the Vikings informed them that other teams were interested and Holmgren knew that teams moving to 3 would be doing it for TRich.

My opinion on why Heckert might of not wanted to do it is that he probably had a back up pick or trade down plan in case people jumped us for TRich....Heckert does love them draft picks Laughing

Either way...I'm happy we got TRich and hoping Weeden was a right call...besides Hughes in the 3rd, mainly because I really hadn't heard about the guy....the draft was overall good I think.

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TeHDruiD · Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 6736 Location: Canton, OH

Honestly, I think the pulling rank thing was a bit overblown. Both Heckert, Shurmur and Holmgren both said that they wanted Peters with that 3rd rounder and when the Falcons took him a few spots ahead of us, Holmgren asked Heckert if their was another player he really wanted. Heckert said no, so Holmgren said "how about we take that QB?"

LETSGOBROWNIES · Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 6822 Location: CINCINNATI

Holmgren might have, but he's the president, it's his right.

I hope not though, if you hire a man to do a job, let him do it. If Holmgren wants to 'pull rank', fire Heckert and be the GM.
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smh · Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 3688

I believe he did pull rank. I wish he would let Heckert do his job without putting his two cents in.

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bruceb · Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Posts: 5320 Location: Rocky River, OH

I honestly don't know whether he did or didn't. If I were Heckert, I'd say nothing and let people believe he did.

I mean, after Delhomme, Wallace and McCoy, if Weeden isn't a home run, someone has to go. Better Holmgren than Heckert.
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