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imani
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 Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:32 am Post subject: QBT-2012: Flynn Plays it safe, Wilson steals the show |
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Quarter.Back.Talk
All quarterback talk should stay in here until september. Now that the draft is over, this has shifted back into the primary focus. With Russell Wilson now added to the mix, i expect this to be very busy thread through the summer
Color Coding
Starter
Green-Locked In
In the Hunt
Olive-Front Runner. If not named starter, likely wearing headset for the season.
Blue-Showing the leadership to start, commanding attention. Immediate starter in the event of injury
Dark Blue-Making alot of plays, putting pressure on the competition
Indigo-Drivers seat for #2, showing some starter quality
#2
Violet-Showing starter flashes, just outside of being "In the Hunt"
Yellow-In Contention for season long backup
Orange-Will see play in Second Halves of exhibition
Red-Doing enough to be present on gameday, not much else
Bench/PS
Brown-Showing Promise in practice, could jump into next category
Dark Red-Making Plays, but nothing spectacular
Black-No Chance
We have:
Matt Flynn (expected 2012 starter)
Tarvaris Jackson (last seasons starter)
Russell Wilson (new draftee and darkhorse candidate)
Josh Portis (previous #3 on the DC and preseason stud)
 Based on the way things are right NOW, i'd say this is the order if we were to choose tomorrow.
Note
Keep an eye on this list, i will be adding tidbits of information and organizing it as time goes by. I will adjust and reorder the list accordingly, based on upcoming events and reports....who knows what could happen by September
-Color coding will be explained and updated shortly
Discuss
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http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2012/05/03/which-quarterback-should-start-for-the-seahawks/
| Quote: | | Now that the Seahawks have picked up Russell Wilson in the NFL Draft, Seattle has four quarterbacks. Along with the newbie from Wisconsin, the Seahawks’ passing corps includes Josh Portis, Tarvaris Jackson and, of course, Matt Flynn. |
Read up here and where things stand and who the players all....you guys should know this by now tho
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Word from today's quasi-camp...
Flynn didn't miss. TJack did. They were both throwing against air, though... can't read too much into it, but I'm hearing that Flynn looks like a professional QB while Tarvaris looks like Tarvaris. Huge arm, but a few scuds mixed in with the good throws.
Neither Wilson nor Portis saw any time as I understand.
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| TheDudeAbides wrote: | Word from today's quasi-camp...
Flynn didn't miss. TJack did. They were both throwing against air, though... can't read too much into it, but I'm hearing that Flynn looks like a professional QB while Tarvaris looks like Tarvaris. Huge arm, but a few scuds mixed in with the good throws.
Neither Wilson nor Portis saw any time as I understand. |
Thank you oh mighty Lebowski. Can you shoot me the link to that so i can add it to my database?
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Sacks98
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We won't see Wilson until Thursday doesn't sound good for Jackson though throwing balls into the ground when your not even throwing under pressure in a scrimmage.
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Great idea for a thread imani, will certainly be an interesting battle.
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| Sacks98 wrote: | | We won't see Wilson until Thursday doesn't sound good for Jackson though throwing balls into the ground when your not even throwing under pressure in a scrimmage. |
T-Jax has to be under a lot of mental pressure. He should know his days are numbered after what the Hawks are doing in the off season. At best he does the backup role into FA. T-Jax only chance is if Flynn and Wilson fail but the Hawks would still have time to find another qb. |
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| imani wrote: | | TheDudeAbides wrote: | Word from today's quasi-camp...
Flynn didn't miss. TJack did. They were both throwing against air, though... can't read too much into it, but I'm hearing that Flynn looks like a professional QB while Tarvaris looks like Tarvaris. Huge arm, but a few scuds mixed in with the good throws.
Neither Wilson nor Portis saw any time as I understand. |
Thank you oh mighty Lebowski. Can you shoot me the link to that so i can add it to my database? |
I have nothing to link - it was just what Brock Huard was relaying on the radio today after watching the workout. Might find it in transcripts of today's show around 10:00 or 10:30 on 710?
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John Clayton:
| Quote: | | Matt Flynn threw the ball well Friday for the Seahawks. He looked great for accuracy. |
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Do you guys know if Flynn was made the #1 when he was signed? Or will he have to "beat out" TJack?
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| ajdodge09 wrote: | | Do you guys know if Flynn was made the #1 when he was signed? Or will he have to "beat out" TJack? |
Pete is preaching competition but Flynn is probably the guy to start unless he looks terrible.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/seahawks-qb-tarvaris-jackson-ready-to-compete-with-matt-flynn-for-starting-job/2012/05/04/gIQAxvGK2T_story.html
Tarvaris Jackson doesn't think he's out of this just yet
| Quote: | Quarterback Tarvaris Jackson says he’s up to the challenge of trying to hold on to his job as the Seattle Seahawks starter.
Jackson took the first team snaps Friday during the team’s OTA with the Seahawks facing a full-blown competition between Jackson and newcomer Matt Flynn.
Head coach Pete Carroll said Jackson has earned the right to take the first-team snaps at this point in the offseason with his experience in the system from a season ago.
“But from that point, the competition is on and I’m sure those guys are well-informed about that and they understand that,” Carroll said. “It’s going to be really exciting to see that turn out and it’s going to take us awhile. There’s no timeline.”
Jackson faces a completely different landscape from a season ago, when he signed with the team as an unrestricted free agent.
Jackson was handed the starting job last year. With his familiarity with offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, who also came over from Minnesota, the team gave Jackson the reins to the offense in hopes it would allow it to move in the right direction quickly following the lockout.
Jackson started 15 games for the Seahawks, throwing for 3,091 yards and 14 touchdowns. But Seattle’s offense was stagnant early and didn’t get jumpstarted until the offensive line began to gel and tailback Marshawn Lynch exploded at mid-season.
Seattle was never able to mount a game-winning drive, despite several opportunities, with Jackson at the helm. It’s the biggest thing that bothers Jackson when he reflects on last year.
“I could have done a lot better job of not turning the football over, finishing with points and just being more consistent,” Jackson said. “We didn’t have any drives to win the game at the end of the game and that’s what quarterbacks are supposed to do.”
Jackson expected Seattle to try to add talent at the quarterback position over the offseason and the Seahawks did just that.
After a short, unsuccessful run at Peyton Manning, the Seahawks managed to sign Flynn from Green Bay to compete for the starting job. Last weekend, Seattle drafted Wisconsin quarterback Russell Wilson in the third round, and the team is still intrigued by second-year player Josh Portis as a developmental prospect as well.
“I’m not a GM, I’m not a head coach, so I can’t go and pick exactly who they want, or say, ‘Don’t get a quarterback.’ If I could I would, believe me,” Jackson joked. “But that’s not how things work, so I’m just here to compete and may the best man win.” |
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Really, cannot wait to see Flynn and Wilson in-game and see what we've got on our hands here.
Besides answering "whomever earned it" who would you guys like to see as our starter opening day: Flynn or Wilson? And why.
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| WhODaT888 wrote: | Really, cannot wait to see Flynn and Wilson in-game and see what we've got on our hands here.
Besides answering "whomever earned it" who would you guys like to see as our starter opening day: Flynn or Wilson? And why. |
Flynn
-Has been in and around the NFL for years, experienced
-Played behind a great QB and with a solid organization and coaching staff
-Has started in two games
-Has broken packer records
-Is not a rookie
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2018143966_hawk05.html?prmid=head_main
Gonna post and update every tidbit of information i find, here's more.
Yesterday's work out and press interview with Carroll:
| Quote: | Tarvaris Jackson took the first snap of Friday's workout.
That this fact is even worth mentioning gives you an idea of just how scrutinized Seattle's quarterback situation is going to be. The Seahawks are four months from their first meaningful game. Players weren't wearing helmets nor pads during a non-contact workout, and no sooner had the Seahawks concluded a 45-minute workout than the coach was being asked about the competition between Jackson and free-agent addition Matt Flynn.
So who's ahead?
"Who said 'competition' the most?" Pete Carroll asked, referring to interviews of Jackson and Flynn. "Whoever said that word the most when they were up here getting interviewed, he's ahead right now."
Well, Jackson lapped Flynn in that regard. He used some variation of "compete" 10 times compared to five for Flynn, and while those measurements are obviously a joke, the question of Seattle's quarterback is not. It will be debated around water coolers, discussed on radio and dissected with a clinical precision more suited for laboratory frogs in the next few months.
Quarterback is the most important position in the game, and the biggest uncertainty in Seattle. Jackson is the incumbent, Flynn the newcomer. And then there's the wild card: third-round pick Russell Wilson, who'll show up Friday with the rest of the rookies for a three-day minicamp.
The Seahawks have one of the league's youngest rosters and a top-10 defense, but ending the franchise's streak of four straight losing seasons will largely depend on the performance of the quarterback. Who that is remains an open question, as does when the position will be decided.
"There's no timeline," Carroll said. "The format is really just to do everything I can to organize it and orchestrate so that they get a legit shot at showing what they can do."
Carroll can't remember staging a quarterback competition that was this open since he was coaching at USC in 2003 and Matt Leinart beat out Matt Cassel. It has been a decade since Seattle entered training camp with a legitimate question at the position.
The scrutiny for 2012 has already begun. Who had better velocity Friday? Looked like Jackson, but it was closer than you might expect. Flynn had the edge in accuracy. Each speaks with an accent, Jackson coming from Alabama and Flynn's drawl sweetened by his native Texas.
Each has questions to overcome.
Jackson passed for a career-high 3,091 yards last season in Seattle and went 7-7 as a starter, but faltered in the fourth quarter of several close losses. He's recovered from the strained pectoral muscle that limited him the last half of the season, and knows that to keep his starting job he will have to develop a finishing touch he never showed last year.
"We didn't have any drives to win at the end of the game," he said, "and that's what quarterbacks are supposed to do."
Flynn is untested and untainted by failure. His limited experience has been nothing short of outstanding. A backup for four years in Green Bay, he passed for a franchise-record 480 yards in a Week 17 game last season, one of two regular-season starts in an NFL career in which he has been Aaron Rodgers' understudy. As the highest-profile free-agent quarterback this year not named Peyton Manning, Flynn is on center stage.
"It's different because I know I'm going to be competing and I know everything I do matters," Flynn said. "In Green Bay, I kind of had the luxury of sitting back and learning and being able to take my time in the progression of becoming a better quarterback. Now I get to come in here and compete."
Everything about the competition is going to be scrutinized, right down to whether there should even be a competition. After all, Seattle signed Flynn to a three-year contract, and while that doesn't mean Seattle has handed him the keys to the franchise, it does constitute their largest investment in a quarterback under Carroll.
But for now, Jackson is taking the first snap with the first unit at practice.
"He's earned that here," Carroll said. "But from that point, the competition is on."
Quarterbacks are at least a little bit like religion. They require some faith, to be sure, and it's bound to be a little bit confusing when you're considering more than one. And while both quarterbacks said Friday there's no bad blood or hostility in the competition, there's also no denying the reality that there's room for only one starter.
"We're here just to compete and do the best that we can and let the coaches make the decisions," Jackson said. |
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