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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarQueis Gray will shock some people this year. I hope Minnesota doesn't screw this up. Also, I would expect Ryan Katz to be really productive at San Diego State. He's going to shoot up as well.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
JustisM wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
Current Quarterback Rankings To Start the Season:


Name | School |Projected Round
1. Tyler Bray | Tennessee | Top-5
2. Matthew Barkley | Southern California | Top-5
3. Tyler Wilson | Arkansas | Mid First
4. Logan Thomas | Virginia Tech | Mid First
5. Aaron Murray | Georgia |First
6. Geno Smith | West Virginia | Second
7. Keith Price | Washington | Second
8. E.J. Manuel | Florida State | Third
9. Landry Jones | Oklahoma | Third
10. Ryan Nassib | Syracause | Fourth
11. Sean Renfree | Duke | Fourth
12. Casey Pachall | Texas Christian University | Fourth
13. Zach Mentenberger | Louisiana State University | Fourth
14. Derek Carr |Fresno State | Fifth
15. Alex Carder | Western Michigan | Fifth
16. Brad Sorensen | Southern Utah | Sixth
17. Jordan Rodgers |Vanderbilt | Sixth
18. Mike Glennon | North Carolina State | Seventh
19. Collin Klein | Kansas State | Seventh
20. Jeff Tuel | Washington State | Seventh
21. James Vandenberg | Iowa | UDFA
22. Ryan Katz | San Diego State | UDFA

I heard Jones and the Boyd are working with that QB Guru that helped Cam, Luck and Big Ben. I don't really like Jones and never caught the hype, but I thought it was interesting. Have you seen Mentenberger or are you just guessing on his stock? If you have wanna send a link or something to it? Laughing I haven't seen anything. IMO Carr and Tuel are too low. Tuel is legit, but I wonder how much the Air Raid is going to hurt his stock. Katz is garbage. I really thought he was going to be good his sophomore year, but he's been nothing but a disappointment. Also Rodgers is okay, but unless he shows that he can hold his starting spot in Vandy I don't think he will get picked up. Living a little off his brother's name, but it's not his fault. No Denard but you have Klein listed as a QB? Also I know someone who swears Nassib. Pretty smart dude as far as predicting dudes a year before the draft. No idea why but I always keep that in the back of my mind when I look at this year's QB class.


That is interesting in Jones, but I don't think he is that good still, and last year, don't understand a complete meltdown in a lot of everything he did. Dennard isn't in my Quarterback rankings, I have listed as one of my top slot Receivers for next year. I thought about excluding Klien altogether, but I think he can throw, albeit a little more, still better than Dennard. Dennard, I think will be this years Chris Raniey, who can paly, RB, WR, and in some packages, short throw QB, also on Special Teams. Mentenberger is all speculation, and where I have him is low according to others I have talked to (some have him as a top-5 QB).


Agreed about Jones. Still don't like Jones but if he improves his motion a lot this year we know why. I don't understand why that Whitfield dude doesn't have a QB coaching job in the NFL by now. I don't think Klien is good enough to be drafted at any position besides maybe a RB.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

c0insnap wrote:
MarQueis Gray will shock some people this year. I hope Minnesota doesn't screw this up. Also, I would expect Ryan Katz to be really productive at San Diego State. He's going to shoot up as well.


I was so mad when they stole him from Oregon. We got LaMike though. Things worked out in the long run. I have been pulling for him since he was in high school. I hope he doesn't get the Tannehill excuse of "he's not a true QB yet, he was a WR for two years" type thing. They still get practice snaps as QB's. Practice>Game
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
15. Inside Linebackers

1. Manti Te’O, (Sr.) Notre Dame
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 255 lbs. l 4.55 projected 40.

2. Andrew Jackson, (Jr.) Western Kentucky
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 255 lbs. l 4.84 projected 40.

3. Tom Wort, (RS Jr.) Oklahoma
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 230 lbs. l 4.50 projected 40.

4. Kevin Reddick, (Sr.) North Carolina
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 245 lbs. l 4.65 projected 40.

5. Shayne Skov, (Sr.) Stanford
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 245 lbs. l 4.65 projected 40.

6. A.J. Kline, (Sr.) Iowa State
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 245 lbs. l 4.67 projected 40.

7. Arthur Brown, (RS Sr.) Kansas State
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 235 lbs. l 4.60 projected 40.

8. James Morris, (Jr.) Iowa
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 235 lbs. l 4.60 projected 40.

9. Patrick Larimore, (RS Sr.) UCLA
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 250 lbs. l 4.75 projected 40.

10. Jake Knott, (Sr.) Iowa State
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 250 lbs. l 4.63 projected 40.


No Chris Borland? seriously?
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSURacerDT55 wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
15. Inside Linebackers

1. Manti Te’O, (Sr.) Notre Dame
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 255 lbs. l 4.55 projected 40.

2. Andrew Jackson, (Jr.) Western Kentucky
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 255 lbs. l 4.84 projected 40.

3. Tom Wort, (RS Jr.) Oklahoma
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 230 lbs. l 4.50 projected 40.

4. Kevin Reddick, (Sr.) North Carolina
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 245 lbs. l 4.65 projected 40.

5. Shayne Skov, (Sr.) Stanford
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 245 lbs. l 4.65 projected 40.

6. A.J. Kline, (Sr.) Iowa State
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 245 lbs. l 4.67 projected 40.

7. Arthur Brown, (RS Sr.) Kansas State
Height: 6-1 | Weight: 235 lbs. l 4.60 projected 40.

8. James Morris, (Jr.) Iowa
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 235 lbs. l 4.60 projected 40.

9. Patrick Larimore, (RS Sr.) UCLA
Height: 6-3 | Weight: 250 lbs. l 4.75 projected 40.

10. Jake Knott, (Sr.) Iowa State
Height: 6-2 | Weight: 250 lbs. l 4.63 projected 40.


No Chris Borland? seriously?


At that time no.
I guess you will have to wait for my new rankings coming this week to see where he is at now.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to take a look at Philip Lutzenkirchen of Auburn at TE. He should be a top 3 TE, not out of the top 10.

Jonathan Banks is a top 3 CB, at the very least. Possibly #1.
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All IN 14-0! wrote:
You need to take a look at Philip Lutzenkirchen of Auburn at TE. He should be a top 3 TE, not out of the top 10.

Jonathan Banks is a top 3 CB, at the very least. Possibly #1.


I have Philip as my top FB/H-Back...If I listed him as a TE, he would for sure be there too.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Favorite prospects in this class are Teo and Xavier Rhodes.
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BBando wrote:
Favorite prospects in this class are Teo and Xavier Rhodes.


I really like Rhodes...this year will show if he's a CB or Safety.
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I think Dion Jordan should not only be higher, but he can also play 3-4 OLB. In fact, it´s what he plays.

No John Boyett?
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I think Dion Jordan should not only be higher, but he can also play 3-4 OLB. In fact, it´s what he plays.

No John Boyett?
John Boyett is a beast he should be on there. As for Jordan, 6'6-6'7 is really tall for a OLB even in a 3-4. But I could see it work as he plays it at Oregon.
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If he [Ansah] doesn't exceed career sacks this year I'm calling it a bust, all 4.5
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, early rankings, do not factor in the last column, it is for my personal usage/starting point.

Name School Round
1. Marcus Lattimore | South Carolina |Top-10
2. Michael Dyer | Arkansas State | First
3. Knile Davis | Arkansas | Second
4. Eddie Lacey | Alabama | Second
5. Kenjon Barner | Oregon | Second
6. Ray Graham | Pittsburgh | Late Second-Early Third
7. Cierre Wood |Notre Dame | Late Second-Early Third
8. Isaiah Crowell |Georgia | Third
9. Montee Ball | Wisconsin | Third
10. Andre Ellington | Clemson | Late Third-Early Fourth
11. Joseph Randle | Oklahoma State | Fourth
12. Marcus Coker | Stony Brook | Fourth
13. Jonathan Franklin | UCLA | Late Fourth-Early Fifth
14. Silas Redd | Penn State | Fifth
15. Onterio McCaleb | Auburn | Fifth
16. LeVonn Bell | Michigan State | Fifth
17. Spencer Ware | Louisiana State University | Sixth
18. Stephon Taylor | Southern California | Sixth
19. Michael Ford | Louisiana State University | Sixth
20. Henry Josey | Missouri | Seventh

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I don't see Lattimore going top 10. With the perception of runningbacks now, teams will probably look at his injury last season as a reason not to take him that high, regardless of how well he does this year.
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I don't see Lattimore going top 10. With the perception of runningbacks now, teams will probably look at his injury last season as a reason not to take him that high, regardless of how well he does this year.


That is my ranking of him (now)...In all actuality, I think he goes closer to where Ingram went two years ago...By the end of this, I think he is the only back to carry a top-32 grade (at least from myself).
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Why is A.J. Klein always consistently ahead of Jake Knott? I think Knott is the better player.
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