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ChicagoAl

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject:

blkwdw13 wrote:

ChicagoAl wrote:

ak06max wrote:

ChicagoAl wrote:

MonserinNC wrote:

SLCbear wrote:

**this said, Chilo better not be all we're doing to the Oline.....ready to see the oline backup plan that Lovie alluded to a couple months ago !!

You guys with this OL man....what OL in the draft or even remaining in FA, is better than our top 7 guys??? Seriously, what would we be doing with the OL that would have an impact on next season? The whole thing with the Bears is that we dont have top tier talent(except maybe Carimi)

We dont NEED to just bring in some random guys, Webb is someone our OC loves and has all the physical tools and then some, 6'8 335lbs. is SERIOUS physical potential and so far he has had no off-field problems. What guy in this years draft or FA would we find that is 6'8 335 and has played LT in this league for 2 years?

If the Bears had a bad year and was able to get one of those OL who in the top5 every year I would be for it, but just adding guys for fun is lame.

Webb only played LT for the one year so his achievement is even more compelling since he was switched out of RT over to the Left side and handled it as well as could be expected. With a shortened training camp to boot.

He actually was moved over when almost everyone expected the First Rounder would start there. Everybody seems to ignore the fact that the coaches thought he would do a better job than Carimi at that critical position. Are our coaches completely nuts?

Every post you make is defending Webb. It almost like the Rex Grossman era all over but Webb . He is not a good player but we have to deal with it. No skills no potential...... would not be a starter for anyone in this league. Webb makes to many mental mistakes same as Rex made stupid choices all the time. Bad football players dont turn great at most they turn into solid depth . Let the game speak for iitself. C Williams never got the chance and he took on Jared hands down remember webb on Jared last season. If we arent going to draft talent move Williams back and give him a shot.

I have defended Webb when he has been unfairly attacked but generally leave the subject lie if it is being fairly discussed.

As for C Williams, the problem is that he has yet to play a full year so there is little chance that the coaches are going to take out a guy who is durable and learning to replace him with a guy who has NOT been durable and who would also be learning. As much as I like CW that just is not going to happen.

What about 2009?

Thanks for the correction. That actually makes me feel better. I thought he had gone down every year. Hopefully the three of four years will not be what we see gong forward but I am not real confident. It is true that his back was a problem from the beginning of his career here so that accounts for the first year.

ChicagoAl

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject:

3irty1 wrote:

Surprised the forum in general is down on Rodriguez. Valuable player in my opinion. Phenomenal athlete and body type needed all over the place on special teams but will fill a variety of roles on offense as well. He's a solid lead blocker, but with those hands and that punch of his it wouldn't surprise me to see him back there on 3rd downs in protection. Has all of the skills you want down near the goal line.

I see a fan favorite coming.

I think the forum is more puzzled than "down on Rodriguez". And indicating that they preferred another is not a reflection of much of anything other than not knowing much or anything about him. Personally, I am intrigued and suspect they have special roles for him to play.

MonserinNC

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject:

ChicagoAl wrote:

3irty1 wrote:

Yea, I the whole thing is Rodriguez is a bit of a luxury pick so pretty much everybody would have rather seen a need be filled(In my case DL, for others OL)

Im actually pretty intrigued by the prospect as well. Everyone seems very content with Clutts and Spaeth for some reason, I actually wouldnt mind seeing Rodriguez beat out either player and become our 2nd TE/starting FB.
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VeniceBearsFan

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject:

I guess this means tyler clutts is done?
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Madmike90

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject:

VeniceBearsFan wrote:

I guess this means tyler clutts is done?

I really hope we keep Clutts…Forte runs better with a FB in front of him and Clutts did a really good job run blocking and on ST last year…hopefully we keep him as our starting FB with Davis, Spaeth & Rodriguez as our 3 TEs with Rodriguez being worked in as an H-Back.

AZBearsFan

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject:

Madmike90 wrote:

VeniceBearsFan wrote:

I guess this means tyler clutts is done?

I'm with you, but at the same time if Rodriguez is 80% the blocker Clutts is then he should be on the field over Clutts most of the time because from everything I've seen he brings far more to the table for all of the other aspects of the position.
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MonserinNC

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject:

AZBearsFan wrote:

Madmike90 wrote:

VeniceBearsFan wrote:

I guess this means tyler clutts is done?

Exactly, and like I have said before, dont get attached to these kind of fan favorite guys. Clutts was a guy bounced around different leagues and then signed from the Browns practice squad. Rodriguez is now a 4th round pick from Emery's first draft. Do the math. If he is even 60% the blocker Clutts is he will get the nod.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject:

MonserinNC wrote:

AZBearsFan wrote:

Madmike90 wrote:

VeniceBearsFan wrote:

I guess this means tyler clutts is done?

I would pick clutts in my adopt-a-bear if tillman ever fell off the face of the earth
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dabears32

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject:

Clutts is as good as gone IMO.

One of Rodriguez's strengths is down-field blocking. And like AZ said, he offers so much more versatility than Clutts.

Emery even said at his press conference that Rodriguez "allowed them some roster flexibility" and I believe he specifically mentioned the FB spot.

I think the writing is on the wall for Clutts.
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Madmike90

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:11 am Post subject:

dabears32 wrote:

To me the question is who would you rather have on the roster...Tyler Clutts...Andre Smith or Kyle Adams?...

I would take Clutts far ahead of the other two.

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject:

Madmike90 wrote:

dabears32 wrote:

To me the question is who would you rather have on the roster...Tyler Clutts...Andre Smith or Kyle Adams?...

I would take Clutts far ahead of the other two.

It's no secret that the FB position is going out of style and fast in the NFL. Clutts' time is limited unless he can contribute in roles other than a lead blocker. For a majority of Tice's time with the Vikes, they didn't carry a FB.

Rodriguez is gonna be our "FB" when we need him to fill the role, but he's also going to be all over the backfield, creating mismatches and serving as a decoy.

I also don't think it comes down to Clutts, Smith, or Adams. I think we could see them all gone. Having 3 rostered TEs, one of which who can serve as a "FB" type player allows us flexibility in other positions. It could allow us to carry an additional WR, CB, DT, or OL where more depth might be needed.
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Madmike90

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject:

dabears32 wrote:

Madmike90 wrote:

dabears32 wrote:

To me the question is who would you rather have on the roster...Tyler Clutts...Andre Smith or Kyle Adams?...

I would take Clutts far ahead of the other two.

I don’t see any way we only carry Davis, Spaeth & Rodriguez…that limits our options too much IMO.

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject:

Madmike90 wrote:

dabears32 wrote:

To me the question is who would you rather have on the roster...Tyler Clutts...Andre Smith or Kyle Adams?...

I would take Clutts far ahead of the other two.

I'm gunna go out on a limb and say Emery surprises everyone and keeps Unga as the 4th RB/H-back, allowing Rodriguez to be the primary H-back/Flex TE. Meaning Clutts, Smith, and Adams would likely be gone... I just have a weird feeling Clutts is as good as gone, same feeling with JT Thomas.. Although I like both players.
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Madmike90

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject:

pigsooie5 wrote:

Madmike90 wrote:

dabears32 wrote:

To me the question is who would you rather have on the roster...Tyler Clutts...Andre Smith or Kyle Adams?...

I would take Clutts far ahead of the other two.

That wouldn’t shock me if Unga shows an awful lot on ST…I just think after Emery says Rodriguez would be in the TEs room that he will be looked on as a TE first then an H-Back but having depth in the backfield is always important as we saw when Forte went down last season…

Something else I would add is Clutts is a pretty good receiver…if you watch some of his UFL tape he makes some plays that you would expect from a FB…Martz just never gave him much of opportunity to show what he could do.

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject:

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#Bears have agreed to terms with fourth-round pick Evan Rodriguez on four-year contract.

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