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| Mercury22 wrote: | I guess I'm not quite as hopeful as many of you. Then again, I've been pretty pessimistic this off-season, so it shouldn't surprise me.
Overall Record: 5-11
Offensive MVP: Reggie Bush
Defensive MVP: Cameron Wake
Surprise Player: Charles Clay
My greatest hope is that the surprise player is Brian Hartline. I can't believe that we are headed into a season where Brian Hartline appears to be considered a "significant cog" in the offense. If Philbin/Sherman can make this WRing group look good, then I'll sing a different tune about Ireland. I'll be thrilled and surprised. |
I too think we'll have a weak season results-wise.
Because we were weak last season, have made few moves in free agency, and our key draft picks have been on a QB who will (hopefully) sit, and on skill players who need to find a groove before they're likely to be productive. And we have a new coaching team who're unlikely to get all their ducks in a row by Day One.
Don't get me wrong, everything could click and Moore could be great in our system. But the teams around us improved through the draft while we invested for future years. Luck and RGIII should produce now, while Tannehill is less likely too. Basically, others have got better now, while we haven't. So why should we do better?
I'm positive about the future. And yes, we have a much easier schedule. I'm just not expecting a spectacular turnaround. |
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Sun 9/9 Houston Texans at Houston 1:00 pm Win
Sun 9/16 Oakland Raiders Oakland 1:00 pm Win
Sun 9/23 New York Jets NY Jets 1:00 pm Win
Sun 9/30 Arizona Cardinals at Arizona 4:05 pm Loss
Sun 10/7 Cincinnati Bengals at Cincinnati 1:00 pm Loss
Sun 10/14 St. Louis Rams St. Louis 1:00 pm Win
Bye
Sun 10/28 New York Jets at NY Jets 1:00 pm Loss
Sun 11/4 Indianapolis Colts at Indianapolis 1:00 pm Win
Sun 11/11 Tennessee Titans Tennessee 1:00 pm Win
Thu 11/15 Buffalo Bills at Buffalo 8:20 pm Win
Sun 11/25 Seattle Seahawks Seattle 1:00 pm Win
Sun 12/2 New England Patriots New England 1:00 pm Loss
Sun 12/9 San Francisco 49ers at San Francisco 4:05 pm Loss
Sun 12/16 Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville 1:00 pm Win
Sun 12/23 Buffalo Bills Buffalo 1:00 pm Win
Sun 12/30 New England Patriots at New England 1:00 pm Loss
So predictions for:
Overall Record: 10-6
Offensive MVP: Matt Moore
Defensive MVP: Wake
Surprise Player: Clyde Gates
The thing that gives me hope is if you go back and look at our results we lost four games by three points or less last yr. I think with a full training camp under his belt as the starter Moore will play better than he did last yr. Our defense is going to be good again no matter what the scheme is we just have talent on that side of the ball. Especially in the front seven. On O I think that the attention to detail is going to pay off big time during the season and i see the potential for stars to be born out of the WR's core. Wallace and or Moore will be Irelands next UDFA Gem and become or Austin Miles my money is on Wallace. Although Moore will have an impact. Im excited to see how things unfold though |
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I say 6-10.
We all know our meddling owner is going to clamor for Tannehill to become the starter ASAP. RT is extremely raw, and thus when we start him we'll end up with a losing record again.
We didn't address WR, which I really wish we had addressed with a 3rd and/or 4th. We will struggle at that position.
Our pass rush is still very weak outside of Wake. Even if he pans out, Vernon will take a couple of seasons to step up.
Add it all up and I sense another 10 loss season.
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Hopefully we will be able to close out games better this season. If the team were better able to close out games last season they could easily have been 9-7 (games were wasted @NE, @DAL, @NYG, v DEN and @CLE)
Division : 3-3
Sun 9/23 New York Jets Home 1:00 pm
Sun 10/28 New York Jets at NY Jets 1:00 pm
Thu 11/15 Buffalo Bills at Buffalo 8:20 pm
Sun 12/2 New England Patriots Home 1:00 pm
Sun 12/23 Buffalo Bills Home 1:00 pm
Sun 12/30 New England Patriots at New England 1:00 pm
I think we go 3-3 in the division, maybe 4-2 if we are lucky and the right players progress.
Expect to win - 75% chance
Sun 9/16 Oakland Raiders Home 1:00 pm
Sun 10/14 St. Louis Rams Home 1:00 pm
Sun 12/16 Jacksonville Jaguars Home 1:00 pm
Sun 11/4 Indianapolis Colts at Indianapolis 1:00 pm
Evenly matched - 50%
Sun 9/30 Arizona Cardinals at Arizona 4:05 pm
Sun 10/7 Cincinnati Bengals at Cincinnati 1:00 pm
Sun 11/25 Seattle Seahawks Home 1:00 pm
Slight underdogs - 30% chance
Sun 11/11 Tennessee Titans Home 1:00 pm
Unlikely to win - 10% chance
Sun 12/9 San Francisco 49ers at San Francisco 4:05 pm - good team on long away trip
Sun 9/9 Houston Texans at Houston 1:00 pm - Tough D and powerful offence, may have chance if Schaub is rusty.
Works out as about 8 wins to me.
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| Quote: | Deadeye Wrote:
I say 6-10.
We all know our meddling owner is going to clamor for Tannehill to become the starter ASAP. RT is extremely raw, and thus when we start him we'll end up with a losing record again.
We didn't address WR, which I really wish we had addressed with a 3rd and/or 4th. We will struggle at that position.
Our pass rush is still very weak outside of Wake. Even if he pans out, Vernon will take a couple of seasons to step up.
Add it all up and I sense another 10 loss season. |
I don't get all the hate for Ross. Please understand that this man is NO IDIOT. You don't make the kind of money he's made and not have a good head on your shoulders period. He may not be a football genius but neither is anyone hangin out in these forums. On top of all that I keep hearing our "Meddling owner" type statements and I think it's unfounded because NO ONE outside of the building knows the facts therefore you can't form an educated opinion. It's just someone opinion and you know what they say about opinion's right? There Like A**holes every bodies got one and all of them stink!
I happen to think the guy is a good owner cos he is willing to open up his check book and pay whatever it takes to bring in whatever the coaches want. What more could you want in an owner. It just seems to me no matter what some of us will never be happy when Wayne was the owner i read the same type stuff he's cheap he's nosy he's this he's that unless you guys are privy to inside info I wish you'd just stop that. You can be as negative as you want I get it we haven't won anything in A LONG TIME and I hate it as much as anyone but be responsible and fair about it Mr. Ross hasn't done anything but try to make this organization better from his pursuit of Harbaugh to the courting Manning. Agree or disagree with his methods he wants to win and he is willing to do anything to get that Trophy! |
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| I said 8-8 and that we are a year away from being division contenders if things go right. I have been on the tannehill train from day 1 but seeing some 10-6 records with him as MVP is kinda shocking so hope you guys are right though. As for ross he is my biggest fear in all this rebuild as well when it comes to tannehill. If tannehill doesnt start right way i can see it now from the national media saying Ross is demanding for tannehill to play. With that said i am more excited about the direction of the team and philosphy then i have been in a while as wierd as that sounds. |
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Record: 8-8/7-9 (Split on the Houston game)
Offensive MVP: Reggie Bush - (1,000+ rushing, 500+ recieving)
He's our best weapon on offense so I expect Philbin/Sherman to use him to the best of their abilities.
Defensive MVP: Karlos Dansby (130+ tackles, 5+ sacks, 1 int)
I wanna see Coyle mix it up a bit and send Dansby at the QB a little more than Nolan did last year. If he does, than I can see Dansby having a pro bowl year.
Suprise Player: Jimmy Wilson (80+ tackles, 5+ ints)
I have always wanted to see what Jimmy can do at the FS spot. I think that that is his natural position because of his instincts and aggressive playstyle. He's also not afraid to come up and lay a lick on a WR or two. I expect him to win the FS spot and have a big year.
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Its an offensive league and we have one offensive weapon, at this point.
IF we start Tanny, he is going to have a big learning curve. The D is going to be put in tough positions and can wear down.
We are currently the 4th best team in the division, possibly the 3rd.
My guess is 5-6 wins. Just not enough talent to score points and that is what the new NFL is all about.
I like the look of the future, but the present seems more like the past.
Record: 5-11.
Offensive MVP: Devone Bess (enough said)
Defensive MVP: Jones (when that is your MVP, too many big plays are being given up)
Surpise Player: Smith. He actually catches the ball. When the team is on the field this much, the D gets alot of looks.
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| DavisIsland wrote: | | Record: 8-8/7-9 (Split on the Houston game) |
^^^ This on the record thing.
and....
Man I REALLLLLLLY want a win against the Texans already!!!!
grrrrrr 
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I won't predict the outcome of individual games, that is a 100% guess. Looking at the roster and coaches, this is at worst (save for injuries) a 5 win team. That is in the absolute worst case scenario. Best case scenario is 11 wins, if one or two WR step up and have a good year, good QB play etc.
Record: 8-8 (We have a good defense, and a DC with a history of being a great secondary coach and producing turnovers. I have never heard a negative word about him. Offensively we have an OC with a proven background in the NFL, and one of the better teachers offensively in the game as our HC.)
Offensive MVP: Jonathon Martin or Lydon Murtha (last year I will go as far as we would be in the playoffs with slightly above average RT play. Either of these players as rookie starters will be average at worst. I think both of them end up as the starters on the right side of the line, I just don't know where at. It is kind of hard to give it to an OL, but if these players play at league average or better the offense will be greatly improved. While they may not be the BEST player on the offense, they are the most VALUABLE to me.
Defensive MVP: Vontae Davis (This is his year. He will establish himself as a legitimate top 5-10 CB in the league. Right now he is top 15 maybe fringe top 10. He has all the tools, and I think he will finally get the coaching he needs to improve. Bowles was okay, and that reflected how our secondary played.)
Surprise Player: Chris Clemons (He will win the starting FS position, and intercept between 3-5 passes this year, as well as continue to be very cerebral in the secondary. He was always around the ball the year he started and just couldn't seal the deal. Coyle will help that.)
I'll add two more:
Best Rookie: Olivier Vernon (I see a big future in this kid. Incredibly strong, good ability to get up field. He will get 5-6 sacks if he is a 3rd down pass rusher for us. If he wins a starting job he'll get upwards of 9-10.
Most Improved: Brian Hartline (He is a good player now. A league average wideout. I think in the WCO he is destined for 60-70 catches for 900-1000 yards and 6-8 TD.)
No place to put this but I think no matter what position Jared Odrick plays for us he will be great. This kid has superstar potential, I see Richard Seymour or Aaron Kampman in him depending on what position he plays for us.
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| Daryl wrote: | | Quote: | Deadeye Wrote:
I say 6-10.
We all know our meddling owner is going to clamor for Tannehill to become the starter ASAP. RT is extremely raw, and thus when we start him we'll end up with a losing record again.
We didn't address WR, which I really wish we had addressed with a 3rd and/or 4th. We will struggle at that position.
Our pass rush is still very weak outside of Wake. Even if he pans out, Vernon will take a couple of seasons to step up.
Add it all up and I sense another 10 loss season. |
I don't get all the hate for Ross. Please understand that this man is NO IDIOT. You don't make the kind of money he's made and not have a good head on your shoulders period. He may not be a football genius but neither is anyone hangin out in these forums. On top of all that I keep hearing our "Meddling owner" type statements and I think it's unfounded because NO ONE outside of the building knows the facts therefore you can't form an educated opinion. It's just someone opinion and you know what they say about opinion's right? There Like A**holes every bodies got one and all of them stink!
I happen to think the guy is a good owner cos he is willing to open up his check book and pay whatever it takes to bring in whatever the coaches want. What more could you want in an owner. It just seems to me no matter what some of us will never be happy when Wayne was the owner i read the same type stuff he's cheap he's nosy he's this he's that unless you guys are privy to inside info I wish you'd just stop that. You can be as negative as you want I get it we haven't won anything in A LONG TIME and I hate it as much as anyone but be responsible and fair about it Mr. Ross hasn't done anything but try to make this organization better from his pursuit of Harbaugh to the courting Manning. Agree or disagree with his methods he wants to win and he is willing to do anything to get that Trophy! |
Allow me to retort:
Ross being an idiot has nothing to do with his billions of dollars. He clearly is smart in the area of business, as is Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder. The idea that he is a moron stems from his interfering with football decisions. He's not a football person. He needs to let his football people (Philbin and Ireland) make all the football related decisions. Any deviation from that represents Ross being an idiot.
Examine the pictures in this link:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/26/v-gallery_detail_list/2770303/nfl-draft-thu-april-26-2012.html
If I owned the Dolphins, I would be smart enough to know that I have ZERO business making football decisions, and on that basis would not interfere. That, by definition, means I'm smarter than Ross within the context of owning an NFL franchise.
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| Quote: | Deadeye wrote:
Allow me to retort:
Ross being an idiot has nothing to do with his billions of dollars. He clearly is smart in the area of business, as is Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder. The idea that he is a moron stems from his interfering with football decisions. He's not a football person. He needs to let his football people (Philbin and Ireland) make all the football related decisions. Any deviation from that represents Ross being an idiot.
Examine the pictures in this link:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/26/v-gallery_detail_list/2770303/nfl-draft-thu-april-26-2012.html
If I owned the Dolphins, I would be smart enough to know that I have ZERO business making football decisions, and on that basis would not interfere. That, by definition, means I'm smarter than Ross within the context of owning an NFL franchise. |
I understand what you mean and I can't say I disagree with that line of thinking. However here is the problem your assuming because you see a picture that has him staring at a piece of paper and has a caption that reads Steven Ross "works" we don't no if that's what he's doing he's just staring at a piece of paper. Admittedly he's a fan with Billion dollar access how many of us wouldn't want to be in the war room of the team we not only own but love? That doesn't mean we have to meddling does it? I can caption a picture to say whatever I want it to say and it doesn't have to be true it just needs to make sense.
Jerry Jones is a totally different story the man is the GM and Snyder is an idiot he has proved that yr after yr. I don't think Ross has pulled any moves close to Snyder's shenanigans. PPl can point to the Harbaugh chase and I just say look ta SF record he was right to chase him Now his method was less than stellar but he saw a winner and went after him I don't fault him for wanting to put a better product on the field. The Manning chase again he saw an opportunity to upgrade the team and tried to but didn't go over board as a matter of fact to me that's proof he is letting the football people make football decisions. Just look back and see how many QB's we passed on do you think if he was pushing the buttons we would have passed on all those guys Orton, Mallet or Flynn?
I think if he was guilty of meddling like some think at a minimum flynn would be our QB right now. |
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| Daryl wrote: | | I understand what you mean and I can't say I disagree with that line of thinking. However here is the problem your assuming because you see a picture that has him staring at a piece of paper and has a caption that reads Steven Ross "works" we don't no if that's what he's doing he's just staring at a piece of paper. Admittedly he's a fan with Billion dollar access how many of us wouldn't want to be in the war room of the team we not only own but love? That doesn't mean we have to meddling does it? I can caption a picture to say whatever I want it to say and it doesn't have to be true it just needs to make sense. |
Well, I will grant your point that the caption doesn't really prove his involvement in the process. But consider what we've seen in recent history concerning Ross' management of the Dolphins:
1) Ross attempted to secretly hire Jim Harbaugh as the next head coach of Miami. That become very public and backfired on Ross. He was forced to extend Sparano's contract in a feeble attempt to save face. It was apparent in retrospect that Ross was used by Harbaugh to get a better deal from the Niners.
2) There were persistent rumors that Miami was interested in trading for Kyle Orton during the 2011 preseason. Then a story came out that Ross put the kybosh on the whole idea. Now while I'm relieved beyond measure that we didn't squander yet another pick for a proven non-franchise QB, it disturbed me that (if true) Ross was interjecting himself in the FO's business.
3) After firing Sparano, Ross stated that he wanted a "high profile coach", and on another occasion stated that he wanted a "young Don Shula". Just on the surface that's idiotic, either a coach is well established (famous) or a young up-and-comer, but not both. Ross publicly pursued Fisher only to be used as leverage by him to get more money from the Rams.
His involvement in the coaching carousel has given me the impression that he thinks he can throw money at people to get his way. First it was Harbaugh, then it was Sparano to smooth things over, then finally Fisher. Honestly, I remember a story in which Ross said Miami would spend "what it takes" to get the right man. Football people who attempt to rely on large sums of money to gain an edge tend to be idiots.
4) Then after hiring Philbin, the Manning sweepstakes began. It is my strong opinion that Philbin was sent as an emissary of the Dolphins to meet with Peyton because Ross was tired of being publicly humiliated by his previous failures. Common sense tells me that Philbin didn't want Manning. As with all new head coaches, he would prefer to draft his own QB to mold and lead the franchise for a decade. To no one's surprise, Manning reject's Miami and chooses Denver.
5) Leading up to the draft there were rumors that Ross loved Tannehill and was pressuring the FO to take him at #8. The organization backtracked and tried to dismiss those rumors. Ireland told the media that Ross was not pressuring the FO at all. This might have been believable if Philbin had not laughably stated that Miami didn't have any discussions of taking Tannehill at #8. Everyone was covering for Ross' stupid [inappropriate/removed]. Not only was he pressuring the FO, he was also was running his lips about it and the Dolphins could have easily had another team trade up in front of them to snag Tannehill. It was pure luck that the truly elite players in this draft lasted until #7, otherwise we might have missed out on our guy.
Obviously no one could prove what really happened behind closed doors, but if I had to guess, Ireland was probably pressured by Ross to trade up to guarantee Tannehill, and Ireland refused. This is what happens when your owner is an idiot, you always suspect the worst. And you end up being right often enough to justify the opinion.
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| I agree, i consider myself ultra positive and more of a the glass is half full not empty kind of guy with my dolphins I think ireland gets a bad rap and like what he is doing but i cant say a positve thing or have any confidence in ross he scares the hell out of me. I think he is a clown of a owner. |
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Deadeye Wrote:
| Quote: | Well, I will grant your point that the caption doesn't really prove his involvement in the process. But consider what we've seen in recent history concerning Ross' management of the Dolphins:
1) Ross attempted to secretly hire Jim Harbaugh as the next head coach of Miami. That become very public and backfired on Ross. He was forced to extend Sparano's contract in a feeble attempt to save face. It was apparent in retrospect that Ross was used by Harbaugh to get a better deal from the Niners.
2) There were persistent rumors that Miami was interested in trading for Kyle Orton during the 2011 preseason. Then a story came out that Ross put the kybosh on the whole idea. Now while I'm relieved beyond measure that we didn't squander yet another pick for a proven non-franchise QB, it disturbed me that (if true) Ross was interjecting himself in the FO's business.
3) After firing Sparano, Ross stated that he wanted a "high profile coach", and on another occasion stated that he wanted a "young Don Shula". Just on the surface that's idiotic, either a coach is well established (famous) or a young up-and-comer, but not both. Ross publicly pursued Fisher only to be used as leverage by him to get more money from the Rams.
His involvement in the coaching carousel has given me the impression that he thinks he can throw money at people to get his way. First it was Harbaugh, then it was Sparano to smooth things over, then finally Fisher. Honestly, I remember a story in which Ross said Miami would spend "what it takes" to get the right man. Football people who attempt to rely on large sums of money to gain an edge tend to be idiots.
4) Then after hiring Philbin, the Manning sweepstakes began. It is my strong opinion that Philbin was sent as an emissary of the Dolphins to meet with Peyton because Ross was tired of being publicly humiliated by his previous failures. Common sense tells me that Philbin didn't want Manning. As with all new head coaches, he would prefer to draft his own QB to mold and lead the franchise for a decade. To no one's surprise, Manning reject's Miami and chooses Denver.
5) Leading up to the draft there were rumors that Ross loved Tannehill and was pressuring the FO to take him at #8. The organization backtracked and tried to dismiss those rumors. Ireland told the media that Ross was not pressuring the FO at all. This might have been believable if Philbin had not laughably stated that Miami didn't have any discussions of taking Tannehill at #8. Everyone was covering for Ross' stupid [inappropriate/removed]. Not only was he pressuring the FO, he was also was running his lips about it and the Dolphins could have easily had another team trade up in front of them to snag Tannehill. It was pure luck that the truly elite players in this draft lasted until #7, otherwise we might have missed out on our guy. |
Obviously your not the only one that Holds that opinion, call me naive I just don't see it that way. I agree 100% that he went about pursuing Harbaugh the Wrong way I didn't agree with it at all but I did understand it. In this very forum there was plenty of people crossing their fingers and hoping we landed Harbaugh so again disagree with his method but not his motivation.
I do remember all the news coming out saying he wanted a High profile coach I see that as a dream. Hell I want my own Helicopter but it's probably not happening either. Oh well! But Again your right you can't have Both either you want a young Don Shula or a retread "High Profile coach".
Fisher did use him but how is that his fault? People get used everyday in everyday life it happens. To be honest Im happy Fisher choose the Rams and he was right to choose them they have an up and coming QB and he could build from the ground up. I didnt want Fisher any where near my Phins he hasn't done anything merit all the hype IMO.
Generally I agree throwing money at a problem usually doesn't work BUT what else could he offer? We had no Franchise QB (I hope Tanny is the one)n just came off a 6-10 season tell me what should have been his selling points? Also let's not kid ourselves this is not the first time in History a player or coach pitted two franchises against each other to get the best possible deal. That's just smart business IMO
The draft coverup was see through I mean everyone knew they would draft him if he was there but again let's not be naive the Boss, the man that signs the checks tells you hey trade up and get this QB and you dont do it? Come on now JI's job is at stake here and you think that he fought off the owner and did what he wanted to do instead of what he was told to do? I just think thats unrealistic as Omar Kelly and Armando have said what the owner wants the owner gets period and why shouldn't he? He is the one spending the money. Daniel Snyder is a perfect example he wanted the Ole Ball Coach he got'em, he wanted Haynesworth he got him he wanted RG3 he made sure they paid whatever was asked and he got him. Trading that many picks away for an unproven college player doesn't have GM written on it thats a Snyder move 100%
I don't think Ross is perfect by any means however I think because he isn't a Rooney or something like that ppl think he's dumb and nothing could be further from the truth. I even remember him saying he didn't become wealthy because he micromanaged his employees. He became wealthy by hiring smart people hard working people and letting them do their job and I don't think we have any reason to believe anything different. I also think that's the main reason JI still has a job because he is tireless and he's smart. I can't ever remember having 50-60 million in cap space that we're projected to have next off-season but because he has started building this team the right way and not chased aged high priced FAs (with Manning the exception) we should be sitting pretty in that department next yr.
Again the owner has stated over n over again his desire to win NOW and his willingness to do whatever it takes to make that happen but here we are a middle of the road team being built through the draft. He has smart people in place and he's letting them build the right way. |
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