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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Cooley's knee rehab is progressing well Reply with quote

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/chris-cooleys-knee-rehab-is-progressing-smoothly/2012/05/07/gIQABhd37T_blog.html

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So far, however, his knee has held up well during the Redskins’ offseason conditioning programs, Shanahan said Sunday.

“At the tight end position, Cooley is looking really good in rehab,” the coach said. “There’s been no setback with him working out, him being able to run his routes, no swelling in the knee area.”


Sounds like a good update! I'm hoping he is healthy and can play all year and he and Fred can do something special this year. I'm still hoping they can be this offenses most reliable receiving options.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Cooley's knee rehab is progressing well Reply with quote

[quote="turtle28"]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/chris-cooleys-knee-rehab-is-progressing-smoothly/2012/05/07/gIQABhd37T_blog.html

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I'm still hoping they can be this offenses most reliable receiving options.


I know what you are saying about TE's being a good security blanket.
They should be dangerous with a mobile QB opening up more passing lanes. I bet they will be used heavy when the matchups are favorable, but we have a deep WR corps finally.
Blows me away we will have them 2 + Garcon, Morgan, Hankerson, and Moss!

I can hear you already though: Not talking They only threw to Cooley one time, and Davis twice rantrantrantrant and Garcon and Moss dropped three passes (Oh I forgot the call for Kyle to get fired) Twisted Evil Ah will be a fun season lol
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooley's knee rehab is progressing well Reply with quote

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turtle28 wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/chris-cooleys-knee-rehab-is-progressing-smoothly/2012/05/07/gIQABhd37T_blog.html


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I'm still hoping they can be this offenses most reliable receiving options.


I know what you are saying about TE's being a good security blanket.
They should be dangerous with a mobile QB opening up more passing lanes. I bet they will be used heavy when the matchups are favorable, but we have a deep WR corps finally.
Blows me away we will have them 2 + Garcon, Morgan, Hankerson, and Moss!

I can hear you already though: Not talking They only threw to Cooley one time, and Davis twice rantrantrantrant and Garcon and Moss dropped three passes (Oh I forgot the call for Kyle to get fired) Twisted Evil Ah will be a fun season lol
Well I'm affraid I will see last years results show up for us, again.

We will see teams like the Saints, Patriots, Packers, Steelers and cowboys use their tight end alot, or short passing game to eventually open up things downfield. The other teams will be leading the league in efficiency in the passing game and we will be trying to throw mid to deep passes to our wrs with new wrs and a new qb. Our timing will be off and we won't be using the guys who can get us the best efficiency, Davis and Cooley. If that happens and we don't use the running game and short passing game to open up the deep passing game, I will not be happy and yes, I will be calling for Kyle to be canned again.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooley's knee rehab is progressing well Reply with quote

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I can hear you already though: Not talking They only threw to Cooley one time, and Davis twice rantrantrantrant and Garcon and Moss dropped three passes (Oh I forgot the call for Kyle to get fired) Twisted Evil Ah will be a fun season lol


You are a great blogger on this site. Let the haters hate, that's what they do. There are a great number of good, well informed fans here.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not hating, I just expect a game plan to be put together by our coaching staff that gives our players the best chance to execute and win the game. Kyle shanahan has failed to put forth such a Consistent game plan on a week to week basis the past few years.

I really don't think it's too unreasonable to expect that from our coaching staff.

I'm not even talking about execution here. I'm talking about game plans and play calling. It's no secret that once Helu was started, that he was a consistent weapon and produced positive results while given the ball. We often strayed from the running game though. That is a Result of poor play calling and game plan by our OC. Instead we chose to give the ball to a qb who has the highest turnover ration in nfl history for qbs who's played as long as him.

This year we have a rookie qb. It would be likely that Griffin won't be extremely efficient in this offense in the beginning of the year, if all year. I think it would be wise to use players such as Helu, Davis, Cooley and throw shorter passes to our wrs. Occasionally, we will push the ball downfield but I would hope that Kyle and Mike don't expect Griffin to look like Elway or Schaub in this offense. I hope they choose a more efficient offense for our young qb and one that relies heavily on the ground game with Helu, Royster and hopefully Hightower.

You know, similar to how the Panthers ran their offense for Cam
newton last year! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooley's knee rehab is progressing well Reply with quote

midniterc wrote:
DCRED wrote:


I can hear you already though: Not talking They only threw to Cooley one time, and Davis twice rantrantrantrant and Garcon and Moss dropped three passes (Oh I forgot the call for Kyle to get fired) Twisted Evil Ah will be a fun season lol


You are a great blogger on this site. Let the haters hate, that's what they do. There are a great number of good, well informed fans here.


Thanks alot, but I was really just messing around with him because it's going to be so predictable as soon as there is one bad game or even one bad series. I'm going to have fun with it and enjoy this year. I can't wait to hear how much better it could have been done, really.

Thing is, I know these coaches put in an incredible amount of work creating game-plans that mesh with the people they can put on the field and things won't always go as planned. That's life in the NFL. But once the players can execute, our Offense will look damn good. One big problem we have had is unfortunately our coaches severely over-estimated the abilities of our skill players, and that made everyone look bad. And sure the coaches could have done better and have made mistakes, but we are very lucky to have the Shanahans on board. I won't take that for granted.

We still need one more year to put it together but I'm going to take all the hate in stride and have a good time no matter how things break down. We are on the right track. Knowing that will help me be a bit less critical and the season aLOT more fun.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooley's knee rehab is progressing well Reply with quote

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midniterc wrote:
DCRED wrote:


I can hear you already though: Not talking They only threw to Cooley one time, and Davis twice rantrantrantrant and Garcon and Moss dropped three passes (Oh I forgot the call for Kyle to get fired) Twisted Evil Ah will be a fun season lol


You are a great blogger on this site. Let the haters hate, that's what they do. There are a great number of good, well informed fans here.


Thanks alot, but I was really just messing around with him because it's going to be so predictable as soon as there is one bad game or even one bad series. I'm going to have fun with it and enjoy this year. I can't wait to hear how much better it could have been done, really.

Thing is, I know these coaches put in an incredible amount of work creating game-plans that mesh with the people they can put on the field and things won't always go as planned. That's life in the NFL. But once the players can execute, our Offense will look damn good. One big problem we have had is unfortunately our coaches severely over-estimated the abilities of our skill players, and that made everyone look bad. And sure the coaches could have done better and have made mistakes, but we are very lucky to have the Shanahans on board. I won't take that for granted.

We still need one more year to put it together but I'm going to take all the hate in stride and have a good time no matter how things break down. We are on the right track. Knowing that will help me be a bit less critical and the season aLOT more fun.


Couldn't agree more. The Shanahans are among the league's most respected, but we also have to give some credit to Dan Snyder for getting them here, and then there is also Bruce Allen. I also think we have a good scouting staff and I credit the organization for using them wisely.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Cooley's knee rehab is progressing well Reply with quote

midniterc wrote:
DCRED wrote:
midniterc wrote:
DCRED wrote:


I can hear you already though: Not talking They only threw to Cooley one time, and Davis twice rantrantrantrant and Garcon and Moss dropped three passes (Oh I forgot the call for Kyle to get fired) Twisted Evil Ah will be a fun season lol


You are a great blogger on this site. Let the haters hate, that's what they do. There are a great number of good, well informed fans here.


Thanks alot, but I was really just messing around with him because it's going to be so predictable as soon as there is one bad game or even one bad series. I'm going to have fun with it and enjoy this year. I can't wait to hear how much better it could have been done, really.

Thing is, I know these coaches put in an incredible amount of work creating game-plans that mesh with the people they can put on the field and things won't always go as planned. That's life in the NFL. But once the players can execute, our Offense will look damn good. One big problem we have had is unfortunately our coaches severely over-estimated the abilities of our skill players, and that made everyone look bad. And sure the coaches could have done better and have made mistakes, but we are very lucky to have the Shanahans on board. I won't take that for granted.

We still need one more year to put it together but I'm going to take all the hate in stride and have a good time no matter how things break down. We are on the right track. Knowing that will help me be a bit less critical and the season aLOT more fun.


Couldn't agree more. The Shanahans are among the league's most respected, but we also have to give some credit to Dan Snyder for getting them here, and then there is also Bruce Allen. I also think we have a good scouting staff and I credit the organization for using them wisely.


Agree with all that is here. Shanahan is one of the best at game planning and I think Kyle has shown great potential in this area, and he has a great mentor. This organization has been built well and is operating well, only a matter of time before the wins come. Those who wish to complain will find the opportunity to do so, regardless.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Mike Shanahan was a great game planner a decade ago or 15 years ago, I think his son has too much control and influence on what this team does and as a result, as the redskins HC Mke's game plans aren't what they used to be.

He used to be a run first coach, even when he had great qbs, now the offense is pass first, despite not having great qbs.

Basically, we are the training center for Kyle, and Daddy is "willing to stake his reputation on that!"
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http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/Moss-Cooley-look-to-bounce-back-in-2012?blockID=704068&feedID=6458

Moss and Cooley are looking to be healthy in 2012 and to have bounce back seasons.

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Both Moss and Cooley have had younger players added to their respective positions over the offseason. Joshua Morgan and Pierre Garçon were added as free agents and their contracts indicate that they will be in line for a significant number of snaps.

This comes on the heels of the Redskins adding three wide receivers in the draft last year. Mike Shanahan indicated that Leonard Hankerson, one of last year’s rookies, will be one of the top receivers along with Morgan and Garçon. 
Shanahan mentioned Moss almost as an afterthought. He did say that Moss has lost 15 pounds since the end of last year and that he is in the best shape he has been in for the last few years.

One of the wide receivers drafted in 2011 is changing positions to challenge Cooley. Niles Paul has added some weight and will move to tight end. Cooley, the longest-tenured Redskin, already was looking up at Fred Davis on the depth chart and now he must stave off Paul. Logan Paulsen is in the picture, too. That is four players vying for what is likely to be three roster spots.
I at least hope for health for both of our longest tenured receiving options so they get to show us why they should remain key parts of this offense. I think if healthy, they will each play major roles for us again.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great news for you guys! Should help RG3 alot his rookie year if the knee is 100%
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No one else thinks that Paul's transition to TE is a set up for allowing Davis to leave? It would possibly set up a 2014 3rd round compensatory pick (provided we are quiet in 2013 free agency ... which is somewhat unlikely).
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Woz wrote:
No one else thinks that Paul's transition to TE is a set up for allowing Davis to leave? It would possibly set up a 2014 3rd round compensatory pick (provided we are quiet in 2013 free agency ... which is somewhat unlikely).


I was actually thinking it sets up the departure of Paulsen. But that is a very interesting outlook, and one that does make sense given other recent moves.
Such as the acquisition of Beau Reliford, who will probably go to the PS and be developed for 2013. Also, having all our draft picks except our first rounder next year certainly opens up the possibility of drafting another if our "experiments" (Paul, Alexander, Reliford) don't pan out on the field.

In any case we won't be "lost" without Davis given the other TE options we have, the 2013 draft, FA, and the bevy of young WR's now on the roster.
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DCRED wrote:
Woz wrote:
No one else thinks that Paul's transition to TE is a set up for allowing Davis to leave? It would possibly set up a 2014 3rd round compensatory pick (provided we are quiet in 2013 free agency ... which is somewhat unlikely).


I was actually thinking it sets up the departure of Paulsen. But that is a very interesting outlook, and one that does make sense given other recent moves.
Such as the acquisition of Beau Reliford, who will probably go to the PS and be developed for 2013. Also, having all our draft picks except our first rounder next year certainly opens up the possibility of drafting another if our "experiments" (Paul, Alexander, Reliford) don't pan out on the field.

In any case we won't be "lost" without Davis given the other TE options we have, the 2013 draft, FA, and the bevy of young WR's now on the roster.


The departure of Paulsen is logical. Preparing for the possibility of losing Davis via suspension is possible, although Reliford on the practice squad seems to have that covered. The Redskins drafting a first round talent then trying to flip him for the slight possibilty of maybe getting a third round pick is only logical to those that think draft picks are more important than players.
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Woz wrote:
No one else thinks that Paul's transition to TE is a set up for allowing Davis to leave? It would possibly set up a 2014 3rd round compensatory pick (provided we are quiet in 2013 free agency ... which is somewhat unlikely).
I think so.
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