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| birdman0069 wrote: | | There is reason he wasn't drafted until 46th overall. |
Yeah, he's 5'11. If he were 6'0 he would probably been a late first round guy. 6'2 and he would've been a top 15-20 pick.
Great athlete, good instincts, good tape.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| birdman0069 wrote: | Remember this the first time Jasoin Witten expoits him for 120 yards and 2 td's.
Already people want to talk about Kendricks as if he were an all pro.
He was average in pass coverage against below average competition and now people predict he will be superb at the NFL level. I'll be happy if he is a 3 down LB by week 8. There is reason he wasn't drafted until 46th overall. |
Two of those so called "below average competition" games per year included Andrew Luck/Stanford and Matt Barkley/USC. Plus Oregon had one of the best offenses in the country. I wouldn't call the Pac 10/12 below average. 
I have no problem with people questioning him right now, since he hasn't played a down in the NFL yet, but everyone needs to acknowledge that he was a really good player in college. And I don't think his height will be too much of an issue, so when Witten doesn't go for 120 yards and 2 TDs on Kendricks only, let's remember this too.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| birdman0069 wrote: | | EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | I know the Eagles plan on using the SAM (Kendricks) lined up between the LDE and LDT almost like a second ILB. He will also drop into coverage on tight ends, but the fact we are using him more as a MIKE than a traditional SAM makes me think he will rack up a ton of tackles and will allow him to continue his attacking style of play.
His production would be even better if on running downs we lined up Cox and Dixon in front of him at LDE and LDT respectively as he would be allowed to chase and stay clean in the running game and allow him to shoot gaps and make plays.
Not only do I think he's our best rookie player in 2012, I think he ends up as the best LB in the class. He could end up with a 85 Tackle / 2 INT / 2 Sack / 2 FF / 7 TFL type season. Say what you want about the height being an issue in coverage, I'm not as concerned as most. |
Remember this the first time Jasoin Witten expoits him for 120 yards and 2 td's.
Already people want to talk about Kendricks as if he were an all pro.
He was average in pass coverage against below average competition and now people predict he will be superb at the NFL level. I'll be happy if he is a 3 down LB by week 8. There is reason he wasn't drafted until 46th overall. |
To your first statement, Jason Witten is a top 5 TE in the NFL and in addition him beating a rookie wouldn't be hugely shocking, hell I saw TEs beat Patrick Willis, doesn't mean he can't cover. I'm talking about the fit and how he could play, were not saying he's a lock to be an all pro, were just saying he fits. Also he won't draw Witten every play so those numbers wouldn't soley be on Kendricks, how many of those times is Allen on him, or Nnamdi, or another player while Kendricks blitzes? Moot point.
Your second point couldn't be more false if you said Santa Clause was real. First off, he did play NFL caliber QBs and TEs in the PAC-12. That conference pumps out tight ends like no body's buisness in the NFL. In addition, Cal was a very successful team at covering tight ends, and Kendricks was a big part of that, if you wach a Cal game instead of going off youtube clips, you would know they run a lot of cover 2, and blitz a lot, but when he was dropped into man coverage he was very good.
Your third point of him falling to 46 is just dumb, Hell by that logic there was a reason Brian Dawkins was the 61st overall pick in 1996 and the 4th safety taken in that class. LeSean McCoy was the 53rd overall pick and the 4th RB taken, hell Tom Brady is the top QB in the NFL and was drafted in the 6th round. To use the fact that a guy was a 2nd round pick as ammo for your statement is just mind numbingly dumb.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | LB Mychal Kendricks keeps making plays, not because of the lack of competition but because the kid is physically gifted.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Anyone who says the PAC-12 isn't loaded with offensive talent, is just flat out wrong.
I'm not saying Kendricks is going to be an All-Pro because of some stupid rookie camp - but to say he played against mid level talent in the PAC12 is madness.
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I really think you guys are underestimating how his height will affect him in the run game. Whenever I watched his tape, he obviously tested out pretty damn well. He blitzed well, showed a great burst, nice pop on his hits, pretty good coverage, sealed the edge well, etc. However, I noticed him getting swallowed up very often whenever a lineman got downfield. He doesn't have the arm length and strength to get free, and has a lot of work to do if he wants to prevent this at the next level. I'm sure that when there's limited contact or during 7-on-7s he'd be arguably the best guy on the field, but I think when we start seeing full contact drills and him having to go up against legitimate NFL offensive linemen, he's going to struggle in the run game.
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I really don't understand why people are making a big deal out of this camp thing. It's 7 v 7 with a bunch of dudes who won't even make the[or an NFL] roster - didn't DTO look good in rookie camps?
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| fly eagles fly wrote: | | I really think you guys are underestimating how his height will affect him in the run game. Whenever I watched his tape, he obviously tested out pretty damn well. He blitzed well, showed a great burst, nice pop on his hits, pretty good coverage, sealed the edge well, etc. However, I noticed him getting swallowed up very often whenever a lineman got downfield. He doesn't have the arm length and strength to get free, and has a lot of work to do if he wants to prevent this at the next level. I'm sure that when there's limited contact or during 7-on-7s he'd be arguably the best guy on the field, but I think when we start seeing full contact drills and him having to go up against legitimate NFL offensive linemen, he's going to struggle in the run game. |
It is a question, he is more of a gap shooter than a true take on blocks downhill monster SAM, but considering he'll play between the LDE and LDT its not as big an issues as if it were if he were the guy setting the edge. If on running downs We use a "BIG" package with Cox and Dixon in front of Kendricks, he will be freed up to make plays in the running game.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | I really don't understand why people are making a big deal out of this camp thing. It's 7 v 7 with a bunch of dudes who won't even make the[or an NFL] roster - didn't DTO look good in rookie camps? |
Its a combination of Kendricks looking good and doing everything he was asked this weekend, in addition to doing it in college in one of the best offensive confrences in the nation.
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | I really don't understand why people are making a big deal out of this camp thing. It's 7 v 7 with a bunch of dudes who won't even make the[or an NFL] roster - didn't DTO look good in rookie camps? |
Its a combination of Kendricks looking good and doing everything he was asked this weekend, in addition to doing it in college in one of the best offensive confrences in the nation. |
I get that - but it's 7 v 7 with a bunch of guys who won't even been on a roster. Let's slow down with the whole "best player on our team" or "best linebacker in the draft" right now.
I'm not saying he can't or won't be good - I'm saying this is a bit premature.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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I love our draft and rookies......that is until the end of the season when I'll hate them......
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | I really don't understand why people are making a big deal out of this camp thing. It's 7 v 7 with a bunch of dudes who won't even make the[or an NFL] roster - didn't DTO look good in rookie camps? |
Its a combination of Kendricks looking good and doing everything he was asked this weekend, in addition to doing it in college in one of the best offensive confrences in the nation. |
I get that - but it's 7 v 7 with a bunch of guys who won't even been on a roster. Let's slow down with the whole "best player on our team" or "best linebacker in the draft" right now.
I'm not saying he can't or won't be good - I'm saying this is a bit premature. |
I was saying I thought he would be our most productive rookie since the draft and was saying he was the best LB in the class since before the draft. I'm simply sticking to what I'm saying, if I'm wrong I have no problem admitting it, but his college play, his athletic ability, and his play in the rookie camp are cementing that as of now for me.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | but it's 7 v 7 with a bunch of guys who won't even been on a roster. Let's slow down with the whole "best player on our team" or "best linebacker in the draft" right now. |
I do agree with your point 100%, but please feel free to quote any post from a Kendricks supporter in this forum where they claim he's the "best player" and/or "best LB in the draft." I think you are taking what some have posted and interpreted it with a little bit of embellishment.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Eagles_808 wrote: | | Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | but it's 7 v 7 with a bunch of guys who won't even been on a roster. Let's slow down with the whole "best player on our team" or "best linebacker in the draft" right now. |
I do agree with your point 100%, but please feel free to quote any post from a Kendricks supporter in this forum where they claim he's the "best player" and/or "best LB in the draft." I think you are taking what some have posted and interpreted it with a little bit of embellishment. |
| Quote: | | Not only do I think he's our best rookie player in 2012, I think he ends up as the best LB in the class. He could end up with a 85 Tackle / 2 INT / 2 Sack / 2 FF / 7 TFL type season. Say what you want about the height being an issue in coverage, I'm not as concerned as most. |
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^^touche.
But if I had to put money on one side or another, as far as Kendricks panning out, I would support him as being a good starter and an eventual impact player somewhere in the first few years of his career.
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