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Remixxxxxxx
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| Quote: | | But if I had to put money on one side or another, as far as Kendricks panning out, I would support him as being a good starter and an eventual impact player somewhere in the first few years of his career. |
I'm not denying that, and there is a lot of reasons to be excited about what we have for rookies - but I think some of this talk is just premature when it comes down to it, it's 7 v 7 with players who won't be on ANY NFL roster come the regular season.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | Eagles_808 wrote: | | Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | but it's 7 v 7 with a bunch of guys who won't even been on a roster. Let's slow down with the whole "best player on our team" or "best linebacker in the draft" right now. |
I do agree with your point 100%, but please feel free to quote any post from a Kendricks supporter in this forum where they claim he's the "best player" and/or "best LB in the draft." I think you are taking what some have posted and interpreted it with a little bit of embellishment. |
| Quote: | | Not only do I think he's our best rookie player in 2012, I think he ends up as the best LB in the class. He could end up with a 85 Tackle / 2 INT / 2 Sack / 2 FF / 7 TFL type season. Say what you want about the height being an issue in coverage, I'm not as concerned as most. |
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Outside of the statline I've been saying that since predraft. He was one of my favorite prospects in the class.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Always sad to see a player get injuried, but atleast it was a giant long shot.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: |
Always sad to see a player get injuried, but atleast it was a giant long shot. |
As messed up as it sounds I think this was good for him. He had no shot of making this roster, now with him injured he's gonna be put on IR, will get a Pay check all year and will be to be on the team this year.
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Remixxxxxxx
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: |
Always sad to see a player get injuried, but atleast it was a giant long shot. |
Sucks to see someones dream, even if it be just a rookie camp, be cut short like this.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Eagles_808 wrote: | https://twitter.com/#!/jeff_mclane
| Quote: | LB Mychal Kendricks keeps making plays, not because of the lack of competition but because the kid is physically gifted.
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The one I'm most excited about. Can't wait for at least pre season to see him in action.
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | Outside of the statline I've been saying that since predraft. He was one of my favorite prospects in the class. |
I can vouch for that.
And I liked what I saw form him during a few college games vs USC and Arizona, but after the combine I was sold.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | birdman0069 wrote: | | There is reason he wasn't drafted until 46th overall. |
Yeah, he's 5'11. If he were 6'0 he would probably been a late first round guy. 6'2 and he would've been a top 15-20 pick.
Great athlete, good instincts, good tape. |
That's a crock of crap and you know it. 1 inch would have made no difference in his draft status.
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That stinks. Good luck recovering.
On a side note. My last madden season he had 18 sacks for atlanta. Lol
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| birdman0069 wrote: | | RainbowCarebear wrote: | | birdman0069 wrote: | | There is reason he wasn't drafted until 46th overall. |
Yeah, he's 5'11. If he were 6'0 he would probably been a late first round guy. 6'2 and he would've been a top 15-20 pick.
Great athlete, good instincts, good tape. |
That's a crock of crap and you know it. 1 inch would have made no difference in his draft status. |
I wouldn't be surprised if some teams took him off their board because he was 5'11.
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| EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | | birdman0069 wrote: | | EaglesFan5-36-81 wrote: | I know the Eagles plan on using the SAM (Kendricks) lined up between the LDE and LDT almost like a second ILB. He will also drop into coverage on tight ends, but the fact we are using him more as a MIKE than a traditional SAM makes me think he will rack up a ton of tackles and will allow him to continue his attacking style of play.
His production would be even better if on running downs we lined up Cox and Dixon in front of him at LDE and LDT respectively as he would be allowed to chase and stay clean in the running game and allow him to shoot gaps and make plays.
Not only do I think he's our best rookie player in 2012, I think he ends up as the best LB in the class. He could end up with a 85 Tackle / 2 INT / 2 Sack / 2 FF / 7 TFL type season. Say what you want about the height being an issue in coverage, I'm not as concerned as most. |
Remember this the first time Jasoin Witten expoits him for 120 yards and 2 td's.
Already people want to talk about Kendricks as if he were an all pro.
He was average in pass coverage against below average competition and now people predict he will be superb at the NFL level. I'll be happy if he is a 3 down LB by week 8. There is reason he wasn't drafted until 46th overall. |
To your first statement, Jason Witten is a top 5 TE in the NFL and in addition him beating a rookie wouldn't be hugely shocking, hell I saw TEs beat Patrick Willis, doesn't mean he can't cover. I'm talking about the fit and how he could play, were not saying he's a lock to be an all pro, were just saying he fits. Also he won't draw Witten every play so those numbers wouldn't soley be on Kendricks, how many of those times is Allen on him, or Nnamdi, or another player while Kendricks blitzes? Moot point.
Your second point couldn't be more false if you said Santa Clause was real. First off, he did play NFL caliber QBs and TEs in the PAC-12. That conference pumps out tight ends like no body's buisness in the NFL. In addition, Cal was a very successful team at covering tight ends, and Kendricks was a big part of that, if you wach a Cal game instead of going off youtube clips, you would know they run a lot of cover 2, and blitz a lot, but when he was dropped into man coverage he was very good.
Your third point of him falling to 46 is just dumb, Hell by that logic there was a reason Brian Dawkins was the 61st overall pick in 1996 and the 4th safety taken in that class. LeSean McCoy was the 53rd overall pick and the 4th RB taken, hell Tom Brady is the top QB in the NFL and was drafted in the 6th round. To use the fact that a guy was a 2nd round pick as ammo for your statement is just mind numbingly dumb. |
Excuse me. The Pac 12, really? That's what you are basing this on? What TE, in the PAC-12, would you say compares to a quality NFL TE? It's not like he played in the SEC and put great numbers.
He wasn't drafted in the first because no team in the NFL viewed him has a player worthy of being picked in the first round.
FACT: Kendrick's has holes in his game.
The kind of numbers you are suggesting would make him a canidate for RotY. Is that what you are suggesting?
I never suggested Kendrick will not exceed my expectations. Telling me where other players where drafted is the stupidest thing possible. Are you comparing Kendricks to any of those other guys? Are you saying he will have a career as great as any of those other guys?
FACT: It just as likely Kendricks is a complete bust as it is he has an All Pro career.
Let me tell you what I know.
Kendricks has great straight line speed but will struggle to cover more athletic NFL TE's man to man. I watched him cover man to man and he struggle with lesser competition at times. If you say he didn't then you're riddin his jock. If he had "very good" coverage skills, as you suggest, he would have been a top 20 pick. All I care about is how his skill set fits into our scheme. He isn't going to be asked to drop into zone coverage that often. He isn't going to Blitz as often as he did in college IF he is playing thye SAM spot. You want him to blitz, then you want him on the weak side.
Not having played a down in the NFL and being totally unfamiliar with the scheme we run Kendrick will be lucky to be our opening day SAM. Chaney clearly has the edge here and anything else is wishfull thinking on your part. Will Kendrick start next year? Yes, and if he starts by week 8 then he is doing very well.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Excuse me. The Pac 12, really? That's what you are basing this on? What TE, in the PAC-12, would you say compares to a quality NFL TE? It's not like he played in the SEC and put great numbers. |
Coby Fleener, Zach Ertz, Levine Toilolo, the kid from UCLA[Faurita], the kid from Washington, David Paulson...
I'm pretty sure USC had a TE get drafted, and the dude from Oregon State(an H-back player though) isn't half bad.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | Quote: | | Excuse me. The Pac 12, really? That's what you are basing this on? What TE, in the PAC-12, would you say compares to a quality NFL TE? It's not like he played in the SEC and put great numbers. |
Coby Fleener, Zach Ertz, Levine Toilolo, the kid from UCLA[Faurita], the kid from Washington, David Paulson...
I'm pretty sure USC had a TE get drafted, and the dude from Oregon State(an H-back player though) isn't half bad. |
And none of them could be mentioned in the same sentence with guys like Fred Davis, Kellen Winslow and Jake Ballard. They're all average NFL TE's. We didn't even get to the elite TE's we play this season like Tony Gonzalas, Jimmy Graham, Brandon Pettigrew and Jason Wittin.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| birdman0069 wrote: | | Remixxxxxxx wrote: | | Quote: | | Excuse me. The Pac 12, really? That's what you are basing this on? What TE, in the PAC-12, would you say compares to a quality NFL TE? It's not like he played in the SEC and put great numbers. |
Coby Fleener, Zach Ertz, Levine Toilolo, the kid from UCLA[Faurita], the kid from Washington, David Paulson...
I'm pretty sure USC had a TE get drafted, and the dude from Oregon State(an H-back player though) isn't half bad. |
And none of them could be mentioned in the same sentence with guys like Fred Davis, Kellen Winslow and Jake Ballard. They're all average NFL TE's. We didn't even get to the elite TE's we play this season like Tony Gonzalas, Jimmy Graham, Brandon Pettigrew and Jason Wittin. |
I'm taking Fleener, Fauria, the dude from Washington[Jenkins](this dude is a FREAK, obviously you have no knowledge of him) and Ertz over every guy you metioned there.
I honestly have no idea how or why you could say that someone like Jake Ballard is anymore of an NFL talent then those prospects I stated.
You asked for an NFL quality TE, I just named six of them with ease from the PAC-12.
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