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Dook
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| KJtheWicked wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | stillersenat wrote: | | One of the many 2nd round busts of the Steelers. |
What about Ricardo Co...
..no that doesnt work...
...Oh, the AMAZING Alonzo Jacks...
...oooh thats no good either, ummm....
...Okay, Jason Worlids still has poten...
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I hate to sound like a broken record on here, but Worilds deserves another season before he should be labeled a bust. No OTAs or minicamps last year really hurt a lot of 2nd year players. This goes for Sly too. |
Worilds will get another season, as a backup. Would you sit a healthy Harrison or Woodley to let Worilds get some play time? If the answer is no then we should have never picked him in the first place. |
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelerspower wrote: | The drop of Sweed against the chargers,the Ravens in the playoffs and against the Bengals(week 3 in 2009) was simply embarrassing
I have never seen a thing like that
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No...because this is one of the extremely rare cases where you actually posted something with substance, as opposed to ghost posting, one word replies and swearing like its going out of style.
And as for Jason Worlids...I know he isnt a bust yet, but you cant argue that pick was pretty bad from the get go. This isnt a retrospect thing either as I didnt like the pick from the get go. We spent a 2nd round pick on an OLB which we didnt have an extreme need at. We did lack depth, and Worlds had upside, but there were better players than him IMO at bigger positions of need.
But forgetting that part....even if you liked the pick, he still isnt close to living up to where he was drafted, and I dont think he ever will.
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skywlker32
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | The drop of Sweed against the chargers,the Ravens in the playoffs and against the Bengals(week 3 in 2009) was simply embarrassing
I have never seen a thing like that
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No...because this is one of the extremely rare cases where you actually posted something with substance, as opposed to ghost posting, one word replies and swearing like its going out of style.
And as for Jason Worlids...I know he isnt a bust yet, but you cant argue that pick was pretty bad from the get go. This isnt a retrospect thing either as I didnt like the pick from the get go. We spent a 2nd round pick on an OLB which we didnt have an extreme need at. We did lack depth, and Worlds had upside, but there were better players than him IMO at bigger positions of need.
But forgetting that part....even if you liked the pick, he still isnt close to living up to where he was drafted, and I dont think he ever will. |
I think part of the decision to start bringing in OLBs early was partially because you never know when a guy like Harrison will start deteriorating and the Steelers like to have a guy ready to take over at OLB in particular. OLB can be treated the same as a DE for the Steelers and a lot of teams like to run a rotation with their DL. Had Worilds developed faster than Harrison deteriorated, he would have been used to rest both Harrison and Woodley. Keep in mind that Worlids is still 24 also and will be through the whole season. There are some rookies that come in at 24 or are 24 at the start of the season. I don't think you can ever really have too much depth at a pass rusher position unless they aren't making the roster.
Out of curiosity, who were you looking for the Steelers to take in the second round that year?
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JustPlainNasty
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Steelerspower wrote: | The drop of Sweed against the chargers,the Ravens in the playoffs and against the Bengals(week 3 in 2009) was simply embarrassing
I have never seen a thing like that
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No...because this is one of the extremely rare cases where you actually posted something with substance, as opposed to ghost posting, one word replies and swearing like its going out of style.
And as for Jason Worlids...I know he isnt a bust yet, but you cant argue that pick was pretty bad from the get go. This isnt a retrospect thing either as I didnt like the pick from the get go. We spent a 2nd round pick on an OLB which we didnt have an extreme need at. We did lack depth, and Worlds had upside, but there were better players than him IMO at bigger positions of need.
But forgetting that part....even if you liked the pick, he still isnt close to living up to where he was drafted, and I dont think he ever will. |
A reason why we defintitely both were disturbed by this one was passing on Navarro Bowman and that had/has nothing to do with retrospect. I was actually a little nauseous when we passed on him, was a big reason why I thought it was to good to be true that we'd take DeCastro and figured the name that would be called would be Cordy Glenn.
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kethnaab
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| JustPlainNasty wrote: |
A reason why we defintitely both were disturbed by this one was passing on Navarro Bowman and that had/has nothing to do with retrospect. I was actually a little nauseous when we passed on him, was a big reason why I thought it was to good to be true that we'd take DeCastro and figured the name that would be called would be Cordy Glenn. |
ahhhh....so it WASN'T just me...
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Why are you guys so sure Bowman would have done good in Pittsburgh?
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Gatoradus
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| Thats something we all can never answer. One thing i'll say is that the spence pick was decent but I was baffled because Bowman was a lot alike Spence, with better size.... So to choose somebody like Worilds, I dont know. If Bowman was chosen, would have we gone with a 3-4 OLB this year in top 3 picks? Probably. Got to go with the time and history, its happened,. |
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| kethnaab wrote: | | JustPlainNasty wrote: |
A reason why we defintitely both were disturbed by this one was passing on Navarro Bowman and that had/has nothing to do with retrospect. I was actually a little nauseous when we passed on him, was a big reason why I thought it was to good to be true that we'd take DeCastro and figured the name that would be called would be Cordy Glenn. |
ahhhh....so it WASN'T just me... |
There were alot of people who wanted Bowman....especially over a guy like Worlids.
I really liked Bowman for us as well.
And skywalker....other players aside from Bowman that I was looking at in the 2nd were Brandon Spikes, Sean Lee, Terrance Cody, Montario Hardesty, John Jerry, Myron Lewis and Chad Jones. Not all of them are doing better than Worlids, but those are players I think wouldve been better picks at the time, and several are players I think are even better today,,,especially the first 3 I mentioned.
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kethnaab
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agreed on all except Cody.
never wanted him.
gatoradus, you preach to my frustration. Round 3 we could've taken Ta'amu and then taken a high upside guy like Ronnell Lewis or Miles Burris (yes, my fave sleeper guy)
but, it happened, Worilds...might...do something...sometime, and there are some solid ILBs and OLBs in next year's draft as well
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JustPlainNasty
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I never wanted Cody and still dont. As a PSU alum I probably am not tougher on a colleges players than they. I wasnt as high on Lee as I was the potential of Bowman. Lee was a nice player in college that I felt was at times overhyped, the injury only heightened my hesitance. Hes done great. Bowman was obvious talent the day he stepped on the field, he would have been successful anywhere so long as he kept his head abd stayed out of trouble. The issues he had at PSU, fighting, seemed too much like typical youth issues to be concerned with.
Another example and not even retrospect, Bowman was easily a better prospect than Maybin, who i thought was crazy for leaving. He still cant play the run. He got paid I guess, but is the prime reason why i am hesitant on guys like von miller, and definitely A&M's Sean Porter, who jumps offsides several times a game.
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FourThreeMafia
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| JustPlainNasty wrote: | I never wanted Cody and still dont. As a PSU alum I probably am not tougher on a colleges players than they. I wasnt as high on Lee as I was the potential of Bowman. Lee was a nice player in college that I felt was at times overhyped, the injury only heightened my hesitance. Hes done great. Bowman was obvious talent the day he stepped on the field, he would have been successful anywhere so long as he kept his head abd stayed out of trouble. The issues he had at PSU, fighting, seemed too much like typical youth issues to be concerned with.
Another example and not even retrospect, Bowman was easily a better prospect than Maybin, who i thought was crazy for leaving. He still cant play the run. He got paid I guess, but is the prime reason why i am hesitant on guys like von miller, and definitely A&M's Sean Porter, who jumps offsides several times a game. |
I agree with everything you said, but come on...you wouldnt take Cody over Worlids, a better player at a bigger position of need?
If thats truly the case, I have to think you have something personal against him that isnt related to football (not saying you do, just thats how it looks if thats the case). Im not saying Cody is great, but he is a solid starter, and at this point, I question whether or not Worlids is even a decent BACKUP.
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stefan52268
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I for one was hoping for Sean Lee. I did like Worilds but in the 3rd not the 2nd.
I'm not going to complain though. I have a feeling Worilds will make the most of his oppurtunites this season, shake that bust label and be a solid starter when Harrison is gone.
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