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RainbowCarebear
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| Bednarik60 wrote: | | Mike Patterson is garbage with a brain injury. Going to laugh when Polk does not make the team, but goes to put up 600 to 800 yards for some scrub team like Kansas City. I think Foles will surprise and push for the back up gig. We on paper are a middle of the road team. |
 
Couldn't disagree more.
Patterson have brain injury, do all fan bases have a whipping boy or is only us/some? Patt is solid, not what you hope out of a 1st round pick, but far from terrible either.
KC have a stacked backfield, Lewis have a year in this system, and Brown have the physical abilities to be a very good RB.
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Withmy89vision
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: ! |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | Bednarik60 wrote: | | Mike Patterson is garbage with a brain injury. Going to laugh when Polk does not make the team, but goes to put up 600 to 800 yards for some scrub team like Kansas City. I think Foles will surprise and push for the back up gig. We on paper are a middle of the road team. |
Couldn't disagree more.
Patterson have brain injury, do all fan bases have a whipping boy or is only us/some? Patt is solid, not what you hope out of a 1st round pick, but far from terrible either.
KC have a stacked backfield, Lewis have a year in this system, and Brown have the physical abilities to be a very good RB. |
Patterson is by no means terrible. He's an above average 2-gap DT. He's not flashy, he plays two gaps. But he does his job.
I think Polk is okay, but I think Brown has more natural talent, and Lewis has experience in the system and fills a different role. Shady is the main guy, Polk and Brown are fighting for the main backup spot imo, and then Lewis is the change of pace back.
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TheRealMcCoy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: ! |
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| Bednarik60 wrote: | | We on paper are a middle of the road team. |
I disagree, but it doesn't matter
cause we have Mike Vick and if I can quote you "he's gonna ball so hard, so so hard!"  |
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RainbowCarebear
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Withmy89vision, not a good name to shorten... Almost hit it for me. (Depth chart wise).
I think Cooper makes the roster over Washington and we keep 9 Oline instead of 10, and maybe Hunt or Tapp get's cut and we keep a 6th CB, Cliff Harris or Hanson.
Keenan Clayton could also make it instead of Matthews, Rolle or Jordan.
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Hammertime52
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This runningback situation is cray. I think it could be better then the three headed monster in 2003, but if i had to pick between the 4, id go McCoy, Polk, and Brown. I understand this will be Dions second season, but id take either of them over him.
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Withmy89vision
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | Withmy89vision, not a good name to shorten... Almost hit it for me. (Depth chart wise).
I think Cooper makes the roster over Washington and we keep 9 Oline instead of 10, and maybe Hunt or Tapp get's cut and we keep a 6th CB, Cliff Harris or Hanson.
Keenan Clayton could also make it instead of Matthews, Rolle or Jordan. |
Could just do 89vision. Sorry, Sublime song that wasn't officially released until well after Bradley died.
Cooper has shown nothing imo, he can only play the one spot, but he's not any good at it. He can play special teams, but so can a lot of other people.
We have plenty of corner depth imo, I don't think we'd keep 6 CBs. I'd see 4 HBs, 6 WRs or 3 TEs before 6 CBs.
I would want to keep 6 DEs because Babin and Cole are both getting older so injuries could creep up, Graham and Curry are unproven, and Hunt and Tapp are rotational guys not full-time starters.
I think Matthews makes it as a backup because he is one of the few guys we have that can backup the MIKE besides Chaney, who I have starting. I think Matthews is better than say Greg Lloyd.
Brian Rolle did a good job last year as a starter, no way he's getting cut. He might lose his starting spot, but he's not being cut.
For me it came down to Clayton vs Jordan. Jordan ended up winning out, because I don't think either one has much room for growth anymore. Jordan definitely has peaked, and I think Clayton is close to peaking.
Jordan is the more versatile player though. If Kendricks gets hurt, who would be our SAM? We could shift Chaney and bring up Rolle, but that has its own problems. Jordan can play both SAM and WILL, and can play special teams. Is he flashy? No. Does he do an ok enough job filling in? Yes, and that's all I ask from a 5th or 6th LB in a 4-3. You should have 3 main starters and then maybe a versatile backup or two.
Keenan Clayton can only play the WILL, and he's not good enough at it to be the no-questions-asked starter. So then you have a guy competing for a job he'll probably lose, then what else do he do? He's too skinny and has too high a base to be good at stuffing the run, especially in a wide-9. He's really just a nickel backer.
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Bednarik60
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: ! |
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| TheRealMcCoy wrote: | | Bednarik60 wrote: | | We on paper are a middle of the road team. |
I disagree, but it doesn't matter
cause we have Mike Vick and if I can quote you "he's gonna ball so hard, so so hard!" |
that is why i said on paper. You cant measure on paper what toughness and determination or the will to win can do for a middle of the pack team. Dude you cant say we are a Top 5 team, and we are easily better then 15 to 16 other teams so we are kinda in the same boat with 10 other teams, middle of the road love. I just think we are fragile at safety, wide reciever, offensive line and linebacker but it does not matter i am stoned and still like our roster.
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | Withmy89vision, not a good name to shorten... Almost hit it for me. (Depth chart wise).
I think Cooper makes the roster over Washington and we keep 9 Oline instead of 10, and maybe Hunt or Tapp get's cut and we keep a 6th CB, Cliff Harris or Hanson.
Keenan Clayton could also make it instead of Matthews, Rolle or Jordan. |
I like the way you think you dutchman ;D
Tapp will probably get cut because of his salary/Hunt has more potential.
Cliff Harris was rated as a 2nd round CB wasn't he? But due to off-field issues he wasn't drafted. The Eagles shouldn't cut this guy. He could develop into a great player in a few years.
I think they would want to keep Washington but I could see them not keeping a backup for Evan Mathis. And they probably could find a C/G to be Kelce's backup/swing guard fill-in.
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RainbowCarebear
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Withmy89vision wrote: | Could just do 89vision. Sorry, Sublime song that wasn't officially released until well after Bradley died.
Cooper has shown nothing imo, he can only play the one spot, but he's not any good at it. He can play special teams, but so can a lot of other people.
We have plenty of corner depth imo, I don't think we'd keep 6 CBs. I'd see 4 HBs, 6 WRs or 3 TEs before 6 CBs.
I would want to keep 6 DEs because Babin and Cole are both getting older so injuries could creep up, Graham and Curry are unproven, and Hunt and Tapp are rotational guys not full-time starters.
For me it came down to Clayton vs Jordan. Jordan ended up winning out, because I don't think either one has much room for growth anymore. Jordan definitely has peaked, and I think Clayton is close to peaking. |
Cooper was more of a Baseball player than a Football player when he came out and only had his rookie offseason. While I wouldn't be surprised if he gets cut, I just think the 3 top guys, Cooper, McNutt & Damaris Johnson (If he can live live up to the hype once pads come on) we should make room for 6 spots.
No way we keep 4 RB's. And we kept 6 CB's last year. 6 DE's is nice, but I'm not sure we can afford it with 5 DT's almost being a lock. Cox and Jenkins can play a little DE on 1st and 2nd down.
Ryans, Kendricks are locks. Chaney is probably 99% if he's healthy (I hope he wins the WLB job). Jordan is a good ST and he have starting experience, I doubt they will cut him, Matthews will probably serve as the backup Mike, so for me it's down to Rolle or Clayton, and if Clayton proves he can play the run, I seroiusly would consider roll with him. I feel like we have room for 6 LB'ers on this team, and Rolle, Clayton, Jordan, Matthews & Fokou are all seroius candidates for the backup/starting will spot.
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808's Projected Eagles Depth Chart
Free Agent / Trade | Draft Pick | UDFA | IR / PUP (not counted)
| Quote: | Offense [25] :
QB - Michael Vick | Mike Kafka | Nick Foles
RB - LeSean McCoy | Dion Lewis | Bryce Borwn
FB - Stanley Havili
Z WR - DeSean Jackson | Riley Cooper
X WR - Jeremy Maclin | Marvin McNutt
Y WR - Jason Avant | Damaris Johnson
TE - Brent Celek | Clay Harbor
LT - Demetress Bell | King Dunlap | Jason Peters
LG - Evan Mathis | Brandon Washington
C - Jason Kelce | Dallas Reynolds
RG - Danny Watkins | Julian Vandervelde
RT - Todd Herremans | Dennis Kelly |
| Quote: | Defense [25]:
RDE - Trent Cole | Phillip Hunt | Vinny Curry
UT - Cullen Jenkins | Fletcher Cox
NT - Mike Patterson | Derek Landri | Antonio Dixon
LDE - Jason Babin | Brandon Graham
WLB - Brian Rolle | Jamar Chaney
MLB - DeMeco Ryans | Casey Matthews
SLB - Mychal Kendricks | Moise Fokou
RCB - Nnamdi Asomugha
LCB - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie | Curtis Marsh
Slot CB- Joselio Hanson | Brandon Boykin
FS - Nate Allen | Tom Nelson | Colt Anderson
SS - Kurt Coleman | Jaiquan Jarrett |
| Quote: | Special Teams [3]:
K - Alex Henery
P - Chas Henry
LS - Jon Dorenbos |
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Hunt isn't going to make the roster *calling it now*
And he'll go on to have a monster season elsewhere
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RainbowCarebear
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| LOLKevinKolb wrote: | Hunt isn't going to make the roster *calling it now*
And he'll go on to have a monster season elsewhere |
I disagree on both, I think he'll be a solid backup/rotation here.
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| RainbowCarebear wrote: | | LOLKevinKolb wrote: | Hunt isn't going to make the roster *calling it now*
And he'll go on to have a monster season elsewhere |
I disagree on both, I think he'll be a solid backup/rotation here. |
Yeah the coaches are really high on Hunt. Hopefully he shows why this year on the field.
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I don't think this will actually happen, but what I'd like to see:
QB: Michael Vick / Mike Kafka / Nick Foles
RB: LeSean McCoy / Dion Lewis / Bryce Brown / Chris Polk
FB: None / Clay Harbor
WR: DeSean Jackson / Riley Cooper
WR: Jeremy Maclin / Marvin McNutt
WR: Jason Avant / Damaris Johnson
TE: Brent Celek / Clay Harbor / Brett Brackett
LT: Demetress Bell / King Dunlap
LG: Evan Mathis
C: Jason Kelce / Mike Gibson
RG: Danny Watkins / Brandon Washington
RT: Todd Herremans / Dennis Kelly
RDE: Trent Cole / Vinny Curry / Phillip Hunt
DT: Cullen Jenkins / Fletcher Cox
DT: Mike Patterson / Antonio Dixon / Derek Landri
LDE: Jason Babin / Brandon Graham
WLB: Brian Rolle / Jamar Chaney
MLB: DeMeco Ryans / Casey Mathews
SLB: Mychal Kendricks / Akeem Jordan
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha
CB: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie / Curtis Marsh
CB: Brandon Boykin / Joselio Hanson
FS: Nate Allen / Phillip Thomas
SS: Jaiquawn Jarrett / Kurt Coleman
K: Alex Henery
P: Chas Henry
LS Jon Dorenbos |
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| WhackyPlague wrote: | I don't think this will actually happen, but what I'd like to see:
QB: Michael Vick / Mike Kafka / Nick Foles
RB: LeSean McCoy / Dion Lewis / Bryce Brown / Chris Polk
FB: None / Clay Harbor
WR: DeSean Jackson / Riley Cooper
WR: Jeremy Maclin / Marvin McNutt
WR: Jason Avant / Damaris Johnson
TE: Brent Celek / Clay Harbor / Brett Brackett
LT: Demetress Bell / King Dunlap
LG: Evan Mathis
C: Jason Kelce / Mike Gibson
RG: Danny Watkins / Brandon Washington
RT: Todd Herremans / Dennis Kelly
RDE: Trent Cole / Vinny Curry / Phillip Hunt
DT: Cullen Jenkins / Fletcher Cox
DT: Mike Patterson / Antonio Dixon / Derek Landri
LDE: Jason Babin / Brandon Graham
WLB: Brian Rolle / Jamar Chaney
MLB: DeMeco Ryans / Casey Mathews
SLB: Mychal Kendricks / Akeem Jordan
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha
CB: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie / Curtis Marsh
CB: Brandon Boykin / Joselio Hanson
FS: Nate Allen / Phillip Thomas
SS: Jaiquawn Jarrett / Kurt Coleman
K: Alex Henery
P: Chas Henry
LS Jon Dorenbos |
Perfect,but JJ won't start lets be real about dat
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