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If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name?
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I originally thought we might keep 4 TE's. Now it would seem more likely as someone said that we keep 3 and 2 FB instead. Then use Reece more as a TE hybrid like Houston did.
Sounds like best 3 out of Meyers, Ausberry, Gordon, and Efaw.
Personally I would prefer Gordon over Meyers but Carson doesnt think so yet. Gordon in limited time seemed like just as good a blocker and it appears he can catch just as well.
Ausberry sounds as if he will make it no matter what. And all reports on Efaw are good so far.
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: |
If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name? |
I'll admit that he didn't have great production in college, but he did start as a freshman, Idk what happened his sophomore year but he then started as a junior before getting hurt. Maybe politics played a role, maybe he wasn't getting it mentally, but for whatever reason he didn't pan out in college like he was supposed to. By all accounts he is a hard worker, coaches, beat writers and the Quarterbacks are raving about him, he's 6-4 250 and ran a 4.4 40. There's definitely potential man. He wouldn't be the first one to be drafted late and have a successful NFL career.
There's a reason that he made the roster as a 7th round pick converted WR, and there's a reason why he's on the verge of being number 1 on the depth chart. And it's not because he sucks in practice/pre season. But I guess I'll take the opinion of someone who knows nothing about him over guys that watch him day in and day out.
| Pete Carroll wrote: | | "We love having the big factor. David is a monster out there. He is so physical," Carroll said. "He is hard to cover and hard to tackle and has big plays in him." |
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/5/22/3037366/oakland-raiders-te-david-ausberry-making-strong-case-to-start
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Prior to those workouts, Palmer had some good things to say about Ausberry. Since the workouts, he has had a more glowing endorsement of his skills |
Just trying to give you a little insight as to why it's not obsurd to be optimistic about this guy. So stop trying to make people look like idiots with your sarcastic comments.
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I mean, I can understand why one would think that way but I just can't really grasp it. His measureables are nice, I will admit that but what people say, I generally don't take to heart too much. Maybe it's what the Raiders have taught me over the years that leads me to think the way I do about our players. I don't see a coach of current QB badmouthing a guy who will be on the roster though. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: |
If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name? |
I'll admit that he didn't have great production in college, but he did start as a freshman, Idk what happened his sophomore year but he then started as a junior before getting hurt. Maybe politics played a role, maybe he wasn't getting it mentally, but for whatever reason he didn't pan out in college like he was supposed to. By all accounts he is a hard worker, coaches, beat writers and the Quarterbacks are raving about him, he's 6-4 250 and ran a 4.4 40. There's definitely potential man. He wouldn't be the first one to be drafted late and have a successful NFL career.
There's a reason that he made the roster as a 7th round pick converted WR, and there's a reason why he's on the verge of being number 1 on the depth chart. And it's not because he sucks in practice/pre season. But I guess I'll take the opinion of someone who knows nothing about him over guys that watch him day in and day out.
| Pete Carroll wrote: | | "We love having the big factor. David is a monster out there. He is so physical," Carroll said. "He is hard to cover and hard to tackle and has big plays in him." |
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/5/22/3037366/oakland-raiders-te-david-ausberry-making-strong-case-to-start
| Quote: | His talents and work ethic has not gone unnoticed by the guy from whom Ausberry hopes to be catching a lot more passes in the near future. He worked out extensively with Palmer in the offseason including spending a month with him and several other Raider players in Los Angeles.
Prior to those workouts, Palmer had some good things to say about Ausberry. Since the workouts, he has had a more glowing endorsement of his skills |
Just trying to give you a little insight as to why it's not absurd to be optimistic about this guy. So stop trying to make people look like idiots with your sarcastic comments. |
good read mang, i for one am excited |
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | I mean, I can understand why one would think that way but I just can't really grasp it. His measureables are nice, I will admit that but what people say, I generally don't take to heart too much. Maybe it's what the Raiders have taught me over the years that leads me to think the way I do about our players. I don't see a coach of current QB badmouthing a guy who will be on the roster though. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. |
Fair enough, just trying to give you my side of things. IMO there's a difference between someone answering a question about someone and someone going out of their way to make a statement about someone, which is what happened with Ausberry. Not to mention numerous articles and tweets (I know) about observations. Clearly there wouldn't be articles created about a player who isn't impressing....poorly worded, but if that makes sense 
I agree, there's reason to doubt and he's far from a guarantee. But I also think there's plenty of reasons to be excited as well, it is the off season after all. The guy has his head on straight though no doubt, if he doesn't pan out it won't be due to a lack of effort.
It seems that the coaching staff must have a lot of faith in him to go into the season with him and Myers if the only competition they brought in was UDFA Kyle Efaw. Joel Dreessen was out there, a veteran who knows the system, and they passed possibly in favor of Ausberry.
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Definitely looks the part 
Al Davis may have got me obsessed with physical specimens haha.
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: |
If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name? |
To be fair, a few posts back you said you would feel better about our TE situation if Pryor was moved to TE. I dont see how you can say a QB who has never played TE, or even WR, has more TE potential than Ausberry, who has always been a WR and spent last season as a TE. Are you going off of Pryo'rs measurables and physical skills? Because thats the same thing you are bashing on 3828 for going off of with Ausberry.
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| ZoomWaffle wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: |
If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name? |
To be fair, a few posts back you said you would feel better about our TE situation if Pryor was moved to TE. I dont see how you can say a QB who has never played TE, or even WR, has more TE potential than Ausberry, who has always been a WR and spent last season as a TE. Are you going off of Pryo'rs measurables and physical skills? Because thats the same thing you are bashing on 3828 for going off of with Ausberry. |
i think hes being sarcastic, to spark some reactions.. |
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| OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: |
If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name? |
I'll admit that he didn't have great production in college, but he did start as a freshman, Idk what happened his sophomore year but he then started as a junior before getting hurt. Maybe politics played a role, maybe he wasn't getting it mentally, but for whatever reason he didn't pan out in college like he was supposed to. By all accounts he is a hard worker, coaches, beat writers and the Quarterbacks are raving about him, he's 6-4 250 and ran a 4.4 40. There's definitely potential man. He wouldn't be the first one to be drafted late and have a successful NFL career.
There's a reason that he made the roster as a 7th round pick converted WR, and there's a reason why he's on the verge of being number 1 on the depth chart. And it's not because he sucks in practice/pre season. But I guess I'll take the opinion of someone who knows nothing about him over guys that watch him day in and day out.
| Pete Carroll wrote: | | "We love having the big factor. David is a monster out there. He is so physical," Carroll said. "He is hard to cover and hard to tackle and has big plays in him." |
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2012/5/22/3037366/oakland-raiders-te-david-ausberry-making-strong-case-to-start
| Quote: | His talents and work ethic has not gone unnoticed by the guy from whom Ausberry hopes to be catching a lot more passes in the near future. He worked out extensively with Palmer in the offseason including spending a month with him and several other Raider players in Los Angeles.
Prior to those workouts, Palmer had some good things to say about Ausberry. Since the workouts, he has had a more glowing endorsement of his skills |
Just trying to give you a little insight as to why it's not obsurd to be optimistic about this guy. So stop trying to make people look like idiots with your sarcastic comments. |
Good post, also have a good feeling about Ausberry but Gordon IMHO will never be more than a role player. As i said earlier, Ausbery has i feel the most potential, Myers is the better all round player right now and Gordon is a long shot to be much of a factor.
Whilst i agree that we shouldn't anoint anyone right now there is evidence to suggest that Ausberry might be worth getting a little optimistic over, he has good measurables, is thought of as a hard worker and has played WR so should have decent hands. Nothing guaranteed but those few pointers suggest he could be up to something. At the moment, JTagg would be right in that none have produced that well or shown too much (they have hardly been given a great opportunity yet though) but there is definate potential there. The point i think 3828 was correctly making was that it isn't a stab in the dark to suggest that Ausberry has potential, he has shown indications (albeit in off season activities) that he does have something to get optimistic over (unlike for example Bruce Campbell who never did anything of note if i recall).
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| ZoomWaffle wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: |
If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name? |
To be fair, a few posts back you said you would feel better about our TE situation if Pryor was moved to TE. I dont see how you can say a QB who has never played TE, or even WR, has more TE potential than Ausberry, who has always been a WR and spent last season as a TE. Are you going off of Pryo'rs measurables and physical skills? Because thats the same thing you are bashing on 3828 for going off of with Ausberry. |
Honestly, I have no faith in him but if he's going to be on the team, I think he'll fit best there. I'm just trying to find a way to utilize Pryor the way I see best fit. If he can learn the position, it will work out for him way better than Ausberry. You forgot to mention one thing when comparing the two, Pryor is a mismatch nightmare. If he showed he could run route 50% as well as other guys and can catch, who could cover him??? Ausberry is just a mini TE/oversized WR who hasn't done much his entire collegiate/NFL career but for some reason, people are gaga over him. I guess we need another Louis Rankin/Derek Hagan type guy for people to root for. Happens every year. Hopefully they won't be let down this time haha
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Good post, also have a good feeling about Ausberry but Gordon IMHO will never be more than a role player. As i said earlier, Ausbery has i feel the most potential, Myers is the better all round player right now and Gordon is a long shot to be much of a factor.
Whilst i agree that we shouldn't anoint anyone right now there is evidence to suggest that Ausberry might be worth getting a little optimistic over, he has good measurables, is thought of as a hard worker and has played WR so should have decent hands. Nothing guaranteed but those few pointers suggest he could be up to something. At the moment, JTagg would be right in that none have produced that well or shown too much (they have hardly been given a great opportunity yet though) but there is definate potential there. The point i think 3828 was correctly making was that it isn't a stab in the dark to suggest that Ausberry has potential, he has shown indications (albeit in off season activities) that he does have something to get optimistic over (unlike for example Bruce Campbell who never did anything of note if i recall). |
What seems to happen is our fans get *overly* optimistic about trash players all the time. I just try to find reason for their claims. That's my thing. You're right also, it's not a stab in the dark b/c of measureables but the amount of people who have panned out due to measureables isn't exactly high.
We only have a month and some change til preseason when we get our first action (CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!!) so we'll see then....... can't wait for the next preseason super hero.
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | ZoomWaffle wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: |
If you just look at production maybe. But Ausberry is only in his second year, and has a lot of potential. Everyone starts somewhere right? Everyone has a Breakout year before being recognized, all I'm saying is, right now on paper they don't look to good, but I'm sure last season you thought Moore and DHB sucked based on production, so you never know. Hence why I said to be determined, because you never know. It's a little unfair to say Ausberry sucks, we don't know that yet. Could he suck? Yes, could he be the next Vernon Davis? Maybe. Jury is still out |
Difference is, they had potential. I don't see why Ausberry has any potential at all.... seriously. His production was weak at USC, he was barely used at USC, he was drafted terribly late, he never saw PT last season... why is this guy all of the sudden revered as someone who could be good? Is everyone just taking a blind stab just to root for someone?? If that's the case, cool, more power to ya! I hope it works out. Do people just like his name? |
To be fair, a few posts back you said you would feel better about our TE situation if Pryor was moved to TE. I dont see how you can say a QB who has never played TE, or even WR, has more TE potential than Ausberry, who has always been a WR and spent last season as a TE. Are you going off of Pryo'rs measurables and physical skills? Because thats the same thing you are bashing on 3828 for going off of with Ausberry. |
Honestly, I have no faith in him but if he's going to be on the team, I think he'll fit best there. I'm just trying to find a way to utilize Pryor the way I see best fit. If he can learn the position, it will work out for him way better than Ausberry. You forgot to mention one thing when comparing the two, Pryor is a mismatch nightmare. If he showed he could run route 50% as well as other guys and can catch, who could cover him??? Ausberry is just a mini TE/oversized WR who hasn't done much his entire collegiate/NFL career but for some reason, people are gaga over him. I guess we need another Louis Rankin/Derek Hagan type guy for people to root for. Happens every year. Hopefully they won't be let down this time haha |
IDK, I mean I see your point, but Pryor being a mismatch nightmare is really based on a ton of what-ifs. Size, speed, strength is what he has. How many guys have we seen fit that discription and totally bust- and at their natural position. I'm not saying Ausberry is the second coming of Vernon Davis or anything, and I agree that Pryor has those measurables and if he could learn the basics he might be decent, but I have just seen too many guys fit the size/strength/speed bill and amount to nothing without even having the obstacle of learning a new position to put too much faith in it happening.
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| JTagg7754 wrote: | | Darbsk wrote: |
Good post, also have a good feeling about Ausberry but Gordon IMHO will never be more than a role player. As i said earlier, Ausbery has i feel the most potential, Myers is the better all round player right now and Gordon is a long shot to be much of a factor.
Whilst i agree that we shouldn't anoint anyone right now there is evidence to suggest that Ausberry might be worth getting a little optimistic over, he has good measurables, is thought of as a hard worker and has played WR so should have decent hands. Nothing guaranteed but those few pointers suggest he could be up to something. At the moment, JTagg would be right in that none have produced that well or shown too much (they have hardly been given a great opportunity yet though) but there is definate potential there. The point i think 3828 was correctly making was that it isn't a stab in the dark to suggest that Ausberry has potential, he has shown indications (albeit in off season activities) that he does have something to get optimistic over (unlike for example Bruce Campbell who never did anything of note if i recall). |
What seems to happen is our fans get *overly* optimistic about trash players all the time. I just try to find reason for their claims. That's my thing. You're right also, it's not a stab in the dark b/c of measureables but the amount of people who have panned out due to measureables isn't exactly high.
We only have a month and some change til preseason when we get our first action (CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!!) so we'll see then....... can't wait for the next preseason super hero. |
Thats exactly my point against Pryor switching to TE. He has the measurables: size, speed, strength, but that isnt enough even for players who arent switching to a brand new position. Sure, Pryor could cause mismatches, but thats putting a ton of faith in his ability to learn how to run routes, go up against DBs and LBs, make catches in traffic- heck, make catches, period.
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| ZoomWaffle wrote: | | JTagg7754 wrote: | | Darbsk wrote: |
Good post, also have a good feeling about Ausberry but Gordon IMHO will never be more than a role player. As i said earlier, Ausbery has i feel the most potential, Myers is the better all round player right now and Gordon is a long shot to be much of a factor.
Whilst i agree that we shouldn't anoint anyone right now there is evidence to suggest that Ausberry might be worth getting a little optimistic over, he has good measurables, is thought of as a hard worker and has played WR so should have decent hands. Nothing guaranteed but those few pointers suggest he could be up to something. At the moment, JTagg would be right in that none have produced that well or shown too much (they have hardly been given a great opportunity yet though) but there is definate potential there. The point i think 3828 was correctly making was that it isn't a stab in the dark to suggest that Ausberry has potential, he has shown indications (albeit in off season activities) that he does have something to get optimistic over (unlike for example Bruce Campbell who never did anything of note if i recall). |
What seems to happen is our fans get *overly* optimistic about trash players all the time. I just try to find reason for their claims. That's my thing. You're right also, it's not a stab in the dark b/c of measureables but the amount of people who have panned out due to measureables isn't exactly high.
We only have a month and some change til preseason when we get our first action (CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!!) so we'll see then....... can't wait for the next preseason super hero. |
Thats exactly my point against Pryor switching to TE. He has the measurables: size, speed, strength, but that isnt enough even for players who arent switching to a brand new position. Sure, Pryor could cause mismatches, but thats putting a ton of faith in his ability to learn how to run routes, go up against DBs and LBs, make catches in traffic- heck, make catches, period. |
The sad thing is, I have more faith in him learning to do that when comparing to whether or not he can play QB in this league.... I mean, he's played football all his life. I'm pretty sure he can catch and run a couple routes. He's athletic. That's significantly easier to do than play QB IMO.
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you wouldnt want Rodgers Brady or Manning in his prime as your QBs? |
not with the way the nfl is right now. id take a guy like kaep over them |
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