Alex Smith

oldman9er · Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 36596 Location: New Orleans

Inside the numbers: Alex Smith > Peyton Manning?

http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/07/24/inside-the-numbers-alex-smith-peyton-manning/

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steadypimpin · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject:

SFaithful97 · Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 2573

It is very close to the same number of attempts as the top guys (in attempts) from last season (Stafford, Brady and Brees). It may be an attempt to show what he could do in a pass heavy offense.

It could also be that he started playing really well prior to last year, and so they are using the last half of 2010 to demonstrate that they think it is the beginning of a trend, rather than an anomaly of a season. Either way, it isn't really cherry-picking IMO. They aren't discounting any games in the middle of that span. He has been on a really good run of football and it goes back further than last year. I think that is the only point anyone is trying to make with these stats. If a pitcher in the MLB finished a season on a 5 game win streak then won 8 straight to start the next season, should they not say he has won 13 consecutive starts? Of course they would, that streak of good play doesn't stop because it happened to be over the course of two different seasons.

steadypimpin · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject:

2010 and 2011 stats combined:
31 TDs and 15 INTs, 11 fumbles, 4 recovered.
59.6% pass completion in '10 & 61.3% in '11
5514 yards passing in both years.
477/787 comp./att. = 60.6% completion rate
16-10 record for both years
82.1 QBR in '10 & 90.7 QBR in '11, 86.4 QBR avg. over the 2 years.
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steadypimpin · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject:

I looked back at the box score stats for the 2010 season. Now I know why they didn't want to start from the beginning of that season for stats. Alex had 3 TDs and 6 INTs to start out before the Philly game. Cherry picking at its finest. I wonder why they didn't just start after the whole Troy Smith thing? That's when he got his job back. That would make more sense to me.
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steadypimpin · Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject:

SFaithful97 · Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 2573

I don't think anybody expects a duplicate of last season from him. He took care of the ball extraordinarily well, but didn't really beat teams (over a full game) with his arm. He did show at times the ability to do that, and still minimize his mistakes and that is what I find promising. Even when teams knew he was going to have to throw, he made good decisions with the football and was able to put points up in the 4th quarter while trailing.

If any excuse for Alex has ever been valid, it is that he had horrible receivers last year. Vernon started slow, and only Crabtree was at all productive as a WR. Even with a very poor group of pass catchers when Vernon started to play to his ability, we started to see a bit more of Alex actually attacking a defense rather than just taking what he was given. If his new throwing motion helps him put more passes on target and the revamped WR group performs well, We should see a much higher level of production from him. He will need to do that, because he will certainly throw more interceptions than last year if he starts to throw downfield more.