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1King
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| CWood21 wrote: | The middle linebacker consists of Manti Te'o, and a bunch of other guys who likely won't hear their names called on the first two days. Or at least not early on the second day. Manti Te'o figures to hear his name called in the top twenty, but he looks like he might be only suited to play in a 4-3 defense with his lack of mass and his inability to get off of blocks. Andrew Jackson has probably the best chance to move up, as he's patterned his game after Ray Lewis. Shayne Skov and Kevin Reddick come from great programs, but both have issues they'll need to overcome if they want to get drafted relatively high. Arthur Brown has plenty of talent, but hasn't put it all together just yet. Tom Wurt came in last year and played reasonably well for the Sooners, but I expect a much better year this year.
1.) Manti Te'o [MLB; Notre Dame]
2.) Andrew Jackson [MLB; Western Kentucky]
3.) Shayne Skov [MLB; Stanford]
4.) Kevin Reddick [MLB; North Carolina]
5.) Arthur Brown [MLB; Kansas State]
6.) Tom Wurt [MLB; Oklahoma]
7.) James Morris [MLB/OLB; Iowa]
8.) Bruce Taylor [MLB; Virginia Tech]
9.) Alec Ogeltree [MLB; Georgia]
10.) Patrick Larimore [MLB; UCLA] |
Why so low on Alec Ogeltree?
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ColumbusCrewzer
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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No love for either of the Iowa State linebackers?
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CWood21
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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I might in the minority on this one, but I ultimately think that the lack of long speed on David Amerson will end up hurting him. I think he might end up being a better free safety than he is a corner, since I think he's relegated to a zone corner at the next level. Justin Gilbert and Jonathan Banks are my clear top corners, and I think both are in for big years. Both Rhodes and Amerson are bigger corners who might be better off moving to safety at the next level. DeMarcus faced a lot of quarterbacks throwing at him to avoid Dre' Kirkpatrick, so he's well tested. The Longhorns always seem to pump out good defensive back prospects, and Carrington Byndom is one of the next ones to come out.
1.) Justin Gilbert [CB; Oklahoma State]
2.) Jonathan Banks [CB; Mississippi State]
3.) Xavier Rhodes [CB/FS; Florida State]
4.) David Amerson [FS/CB; North Carolina State]
5.) DeMarcus Milliner [CB; Alabama]
6.) Carrington Byndom [CB; Texas]
7.) Michah Hyde [CB; Iowa]
8.) Johnny Adams [CB; Michigan State]
9.) Jordan Poyer [CB; Oregon State]
10.) Desmond Trufant [CB; Washington]
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Or you just think that b/c the Pack was 10-0 made them hotter? |
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CWood21
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| 1King wrote: | | Why so low on Alec Ogeltree? |
He came on late last year, so I'm a bit skeptical of the success and wanting to see if it translates over to this year. Of the ten listed, he probably has the most room to go up.
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Or you just think that b/c the Pack was 10-0 made them hotter? |
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CWood21
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ColumbusCrewzer wrote: | | No love for either of the Iowa State linebackers? |
I'm assuming you're referring to Jake Knott and A.J. Klein. I feel they're more likely to find their niche as backups and on special teams. Not sure either has the skill set to be a starter in the NFL.
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Or you just think that b/c the Pack was 10-0 made them hotter? |
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EMG58
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| what can you tell me about Andrew Jackson? Ive seen him mentioned here a couple of times but Ive never seen him play? |
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Anonymous3
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Finally someone who sees what I see in Justin Gilbert. I've had him pegged as a 2nd round guy for a good time now and he's omitted from several top draft sites.
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Chiefer
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I think Tom Wort moves himself up to 1st round consideration this year he always leaves an impression for me when i watch Oklahoma defense film.
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GSUeagles14
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| What's your opinion on Sanders Commings and Branden Smith? |
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CWood21
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| EMG58 wrote: | | what can you tell me about Andrew Jackson? Ive seen him mentioned here a couple of times but Ive never seen him play? |
Just seems to have a nose for the ball. I got a chance to see him play against LSU, and I was extremely impressed with what I saw. I didn't see a guy who was getting mauled by the big Tigers offensive nor that was overwhelmed by what was a clearly superior team. He's not afraid to show up in run support, but I don't recall seeing him in coverage a whole lot. Last year was his first year where he was in the line up consistently and he had a huge year. Got great size and I almost want to compare him to D.J. Smith, the former Appalachian State linebacker, who had a insane nose for the ball.
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Or you just think that b/c the Pack was 10-0 made them hotter? |
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CWood21
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| Anonymous3 wrote: | | Finally someone who sees what I see in Justin Gilbert. I've had him pegged as a 2nd round guy for a good time now and he's omitted from several top draft sites. |
Absolutely. I'm not enamored in the slightest by Xavier Rhodes or David Amerson. I just was underwhelmed when I watched Rhodes play. Looks like an NFL player, but just doesn't seem special when you put the tape on. I don't think he's more than a #2 corner at the next level. When I saw Amerson play, I saw a guy who was always a step too slow and afraid of coming up in run support. If you're not willing to come up in run support, it's doubtful that you'll be willing to get physical with a receiver. He's either a pure zone corner or he's going to need to make the transition to free safety when he gets to the NFL. Gilbert has the best combination of size, speed, and skillset to be an impact player in the NFL.
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CWood21
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| GSUeagles14 wrote: | | What's your opinion on Sanders Commings and Branden Smith? |
Not really a fan of Commings. He's a bigger, slower corner who probably needs to move to safety in the NFL. Probably not a whole lot of talent there since he doesn't have a huge nose for the ball. And then there are the character red flags that will need to be checked out before a team invests a pick in him. I like Smith a bit more, but I think he's a bit light. Might be relegated to nickel or dime back if he comes up small/light at the combine.
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | Or you just think that b/c the Pack was 10-0 made them hotter? |
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CWood21
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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This year's safety class looks significantly better than last year's, so if you're in need of a safety you're likely going to be able to find a decent one. Eric Reid had a big year and broke out big time, I want to see another strong year and he'll likely be a top 15 pick. Tony Jefferson has been the leader of the Sooners defense last year when Travis Lewis was injured. T.J. McDonald and Kenny Vaccaro both come from great programs and should be pretty good safeties at the next level. Robert Lester is a better safety than his teammate, Mark Barron, was last year, but shouldn't go nearly as high.
1.) Eric Reed [S; LSU]
2.) Tony Jefferson [S; Oklahoma]
3.) David Amerson [FS/CB; North Carolina State]
4.) T.J. McDonald [S; USC]
5.) Kenny Vaccaro [S; Texas]
6.) Robert Lester [S; Alabama]
7.) Matt Elam [S; Florida]
8.) Tyrann Mathieu [CB/S; LSU]
9.) Baccari Rambo [S; Georgia]
10.) Xavier Rhodes [CB/S; Florida State]
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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You not a fan of John Boyett?
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CWood21
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| CWood21 wrote: | Big Board
Last Update: 8/6/12
1.) Matt Barkley [QB; USC]
2.) Barkevious Mingo [DE/OLB; LSU]
3.) Sam Montomgery [DE; LSU]
4.) Jarvis Jones [OLB; Georgia]
5.) Marcus Lattimore [RB; South Carolina]
6.) Robert Woods [WR; USC]
7.) Jackson Jeffcoat [DE; Texas]
8.) Eric Reid [S; LSU]
9.) Star Lotuleli [DT; Utah]
10.) Barrett Jones [OL; Alabama]
11.) Manti Te’o [MLB; Notre Dame]
12.) Sean Porter [OLB; Texas A&M]
13.) Tyler Eifert [TE; Notre Dame]
14.) Tyler Bray [QB; Tennessee]
15.) Keenan Allen [WR; California]
16.) Chris Faulk [OT; LSU]
17.) Justin Gilbert [CB; Oklahoma State]
18.) Jake Matthews [OT; Michigan State]
19.) Taylor Lewan [OT; Michigan]
20.) Jonathan Banks [CB; Mississippi State]
21.) Jonathan Hankins [DT; Ohio State]
22.) Tony Jefferson [S; Oklahoma]
23.) David Amerson [FS/CB; North Carolina State]
24.) Logan Thomas [QB; Virginia Tech]
25.) Jonathan Cooper [OG; North Carolina]
26.) Marquess Wilson [WR; Washington State]
27.) Da’Rick Rogers [WR; Tennesse]
28.) Justin Hunter [WR; Tennessee]
29.) William Gholston [DE; Michigan State]
30.) Alex Okafor [DE; Texas]
31.) T.J. McDonald [S; USC]
32.) Xavier Rhodes [CB/FS; Florida State]
33.) Kwame Geathers [DT; Georgia]
34.) Khaled Holmes [C/OG; USC]
35.) Kawaan Short [DT; Urdue]
36.) Oday Aboushi [OT; Virginia]
37.) Aaron Murray [QB; Georgia]
38.) D.J. Fluker [OT; Alabama]
39.) Andrew Jackson [MLB; Western Kentucky]
40.) Luke Joeckel [OT; Texas A&M]
41.) Michael Dyer [RB; Pittsburgh State]
42.) Landry Jones [QB; Oklahoma]
43.) Chance Warmack [OG; Alabama]
44.) Tyler Wilson [QB; Arkansas]
45.) Dion Jordan [DE/OLB; Oregon]
46.) DeMarcus Milliner [CB; Alabama]
47.) Kenny Vaccaro [S; Texas]
48.) Alvin Bailey [OG; Arkansas]
49.) Shayne Skov [MLB; Stanford]
50.) Larry Warford [OG; Kentucky] |
Initial big board has been posted.
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