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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really intrigued by Nikola Vucevic, he had some really nice measurements last year at the combine. I'm really interested to see his offensive game and see what he can bring to the center position. I really would like to see a Vucevic/O'Quinn duo at the five spot next year.
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Saw the break down late last night and some plans that may or may not be true, but are rumored.

We will be trading one of Glen Davis or Hedo before next year, in the case of Hedo, he only will cost 6m to cut (which he will be cut next year from here regardless). Harrington will start this year, if he does well, will be moved at the deadline for a pick + 2nds. We took on Afflalo in the hopes he makes a playoff team either this or next year need him with his ability to score...doubt this happens, but if we get a starting caliber SG in the draft, he isn't needed. Which, if you are keeping track at home, shaves almost 20m off the cap...I don't know who would take on either Afflalo or Harrington, but all rumors aside don't expect them being here for long (at least Afflalo will be until he has a replacement).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current Depth Chart:

PG- Jameer Nelson / ??
SG - Aaron Afflalo / JJ Redick / Moe Harkless / Liggins
SF - Hedo / Queintin Richardson / Eyenga / Harkless?
PF - Al Harrington / Glen Davis / Andrew Nicholson / Justin Harper
C - Nikola Vucevic / Kyle O'Quinn / Gustavo Ayon

Current Cap: $53,312,267 + 17m trade exception.

Cap by 2013: $39,211,540 (could be 22,443,726 with Hedo, Al, Eyenga, and Ayon all gone or traded)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Orlando is just going to sit out the whole Heat dynasty era, lay low for a couple of years, be back in 2016.

No way they made that trade with any plans of being competitive. They essentially are jus building an expansion franchise.
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MonserinNC wrote:
I think Orlando is just going to sit out the whole Heat dynasty era, lay low for a couple of years, be back in 2016.

No way they made that trade with any plans of being competitive. They essentially are jus building an expansion franchise.


Except, everyone comes off the books in 2 years? leaving us players (rookies present and future) + only 20m in comitted cap, so no, we will be ready in 2-3 years...we aren't the Bobcats.
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MonserinNC wrote:
I think Orlando is just going to sit out the whole Heat dynasty era, lay low for a couple of years, be back in 2016.

No way they made that trade with any plans of being competitive. They essentially are jus building an expansion franchise.


Except, everyone comes off the books in 2 years? leaving us players (rookies present and future) + only 20m in comitted cap, so no, we will be ready in 2-3 years...we aren't the Bobcats.


What will you guys be doing with the cap space??? I dont get it?? Not trying to troll, just seriously though, who do you think is the target that will have you guys ready in 2-3 years?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its not trolling because it's true lol..
Anyhow, I'm not about that. But damm
the Nets offer stands better at this point.
I was a huge fan of Affalo in UCLA..
And Hibberts contract is front loaded
giving the pacers crazy flex later. Danny's
contract will be up when there will be crazy
talent on the board. However you look at it
the pacers now and 5 years from now look
way better than then Magic.

I'm just bustin balls buddy. No doubting the Pacers will be better the next few years than the Magic, but I don't see a contender in that team without a star. Obviously if we trade Dwight we're going to be rebuilding.

Nets offer was not that good. Lopez is not max money and Brooks is going to be same player for the rest of his career. Rather take more picks, getting a cheap, unathletic, younger, big center with touch than a old one making the meax plus Mo Harkless' potential >>>> anything the Nets would've gave us. Not saying either deal was that great, but we would have never gotten a great deal with the options we had. We're gonna tank, point blank.

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Current Depth Chart:

PG- Jameer Nelson / ??
SG - Aaron Afflalo / JJ Redick / Moe Harkless / Liggins
SF - Hedo / Queintin Richardson / Eyenga / Harkless?
PF - Al Harrington / Glen Davis / Andrew Nicholson / Justin Harper
C - Nikola Vucevic / Kyle O'Quinn / Gustavo Ayon

Harkless is a forward, he'll be playing SF and maybe a lil PF in small ball lineups. He might be able to play some SG one day when his jumper/handles improve. He certainly has the versatility to play defense on many positions. I think we'll see a decent amount of Big Baby at C this year as well. Nicholson can play from day one to so it'll be interesting with Big Baby and Harrington in front of him. Hopefully Andrew hits the gym, it still looks like he's catching up with his body and he has more athleticism left in him.

I hope we don't hesitate playing Harkless just because he's raw, he'll get a lot better just by being on the floor. We can't stash him on the pine and expect him to grow. I used to hate when SVG used to refuse to play Ariza just because he wasn't great at shooting the three.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
MonserinNC wrote:
I think Orlando is just going to sit out the whole Heat dynasty era, lay low for a couple of years, be back in 2016.

No way they made that trade with any plans of being competitive. They essentially are jus building an expansion franchise.


Except, everyone comes off the books in 2 years? leaving us players (rookies present and future) + only 20m in comitted cap, so no, we will be ready in 2-3 years...we aren't the Bobcats.


What will you guys be doing with the cap space??? I dont get it?? Not trying to troll, just seriously though, who do you think is the target that will have you guys ready in 2-3 years?


Have you not seen the projected FA lists for the next 3-4 years?
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MonserinNC wrote:
Its A Sabotage wrote:
MonserinNC wrote:
I think Orlando is just going to sit out the whole Heat dynasty era, lay low for a couple of years, be back in 2016.

No way they made that trade with any plans of being competitive. They essentially are jus building an expansion franchise.


Except, everyone comes off the books in 2 years? leaving us players (rookies present and future) + only 20m in comitted cap, so no, we will be ready in 2-3 years...we aren't the Bobcats.


What will you guys be doing with the cap space??? I dont get it?? Not trying to troll, just seriously though, who do you think is the target that will have you guys ready in 2-3 years?


Have you not seen the projected FA lists for the next 3-4 years?


Haha, no!!

Thats what I was saying, I was being dead serious, I dont have beef with the Magic or anything, I seriously am wondering what the Magic plan is and what the fans think the plan is.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:
Current Depth Chart:

PG- Jameer Nelson / ??
SG - Aaron Afflalo / JJ Redick / Moe Harkless / Liggins
SF - Hedo / Queintin Richardson / Eyenga / Harkless?
PF - Al Harrington / Glen Davis / Andrew Nicholson / Justin Harper
C - Nikola Vucevic / Kyle O'Quinn / Gustavo Ayon

Current Cap: $53,312,267 + 17m trade exception.

Cap by 2013: $39,211,540 (could be 22,443,726 with Hedo, Al, Eyenga, and Ayon all gone or traded)


Big Baby will prolly start at center and Harkless is going to play SF, although liked mentioned he has the ability to defend the two.

The thing about this roster is we have way to many fours and I just don't want to watch Harrington and BBD all year. I really want to see Nicholson, O'Quinn, Vucevic, and Harper getting time.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 17 mil.. It lets you take in salary no?
Hmmmmmm. Deff interested in how you guys use it.
Package it with a expiring and take in a horrible contract
for 2-3 years. Eying that 2014 class of rooks and FA's.
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El ramster wrote:
That 17 mil.. It lets you take in salary no?
Hmmmmmm. Deff interested in how you guys use it.
Package it with a expiring and take in a horrible contract
for 2-3 years. Eying that 2014 class of rooks and FA's.


Depends on whom is there to trade for, really.
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Afflalo would be great on the Bulls. I wonder if they'd do Hamilton, 2013 1st, and the Bobcats future pick for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Current Depth Chart:

Depth Chart:
PG - Jameer Nelson / Ishmael Smith
SG - Arron Afflalo/ J.J. Redick / Christian Eyenga / E'Twaun Moore
SF - Hedo Turkoglu / Quentin Richardson / Maurice Harkless
PF - Glen Davis / Al Harrington / Josh McRoberts / Justin Harper / Andrew Nicholson
C - Gustavo Ayon / Nikola Vucevic / Kyle O'Quinn

I will update the front in a bit, including schedule and contract information.
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Its A Sabotage wrote:
Current Depth Chart:

Depth Chart:
PG - Jameer Nelson / Ishmael Smith
SG - Arron Afflalo/ J.J. Redick / Christian Eyenga / E'Twaun Moore
SF - Hedo Turkoglu / Quentin Richardson / Maurice Harkless
PF - Glen Davis / Al Harrington / Josh McRoberts / Justin Harper / Andrew Nicholson
C - Gustavo Ayon / Nikola Vucevic / Kyle O'Quinn

I will update the front in a bit, including schedule and contract information.


Nelson - Smith
Afflalo - Redick - Moore - DeQuan
Hedo - Qrich - Harkless
BBD - Harrington - Nicholson
Vucci - Gustavo - O'Quinn

Final 15 imo.
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