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S-jax39

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Any NONPOINT fans?

I would assume none, this being the METALHEAD thread and all.

They are part of the nu metal genre. Either way though they make some good music and they are outstanding live.

"nu-metal" is to metal what barnacles are to sharks.

in your opinion

No, this is a point of fact. They have nothing in common besides distorted guitars. Much as barnacles and sharks have nothing in common save the fact that they live in water.

So whats the difference?
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Tzimisce

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:18 pm Post subject:

S-jax39 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Any NONPOINT fans?

I would assume none, this being the METALHEAD thread and all.

They are part of the nu metal genre. Either way though they make some good music and they are outstanding live.

"nu-metal" is to metal what barnacles are to sharks.

in your opinion

No, this is a point of fact. They have nothing in common besides distorted guitars. Much as barnacles and sharks have nothing in common save the fact that they live in water.

So whats the difference?

The difference is that metal bands don't rap or use funk rhythms. We've been over this.
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Vikefan79

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject:

Tzimisce wrote:

S-jax39 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Any NONPOINT fans?

I would assume none, this being the METALHEAD thread and all.

They are part of the nu metal genre. Either way though they make some good music and they are outstanding live.

"nu-metal" is to metal what barnacles are to sharks.

in your opinion

No, this is a point of fact. They have nothing in common besides distorted guitars. Much as barnacles and sharks have nothing in common save the fact that they live in water.

So whats the difference?

The difference is that metal bands don't rap or use funk rhythms. We've been over this.

but growling like a rabid dog is acceptable?
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S-jax39

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject:

Tzimisce wrote:

S-jax39 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Any NONPOINT fans?

I would assume none, this being the METALHEAD thread and all.

They are part of the nu metal genre. Either way though they make some good music and they are outstanding live.

"nu-metal" is to metal what barnacles are to sharks.

in your opinion

No, this is a point of fact. They have nothing in common besides distorted guitars. Much as barnacles and sharks have nothing in common save the fact that they live in water.

So whats the difference?

The difference is that metal bands don't rap or use funk rhythms. We've been over this.

Well sorry this isnt a thread a visit very much. Just popped in to see any suggestions of new music. I always used to think they were the same and figured this was a perfect opputunity to ask.
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Chris Long has not been a difference maker on defense.......Chris Long is an above average starter and nothing more.

Adopt a ram: THE ANIMAL:

55 tackles
.5 sacks

Tzimisce

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

S-jax39 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Any NONPOINT fans?

I would assume none, this being the METALHEAD thread and all.

They are part of the nu metal genre. Either way though they make some good music and they are outstanding live.

"nu-metal" is to metal what barnacles are to sharks.

in your opinion

No, this is a point of fact. They have nothing in common besides distorted guitars. Much as barnacles and sharks have nothing in common save the fact that they live in water.

So whats the difference?

The difference is that metal bands don't rap or use funk rhythms. We've been over this.

but growling like a rabid dog is acceptable?

Yes. That vocal style evolved gradually from the raspy thrash vocal style that originated with Venom.
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AntiSuperstar

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject:

Tzimisce wrote:

Yes. That vocal style evolved gradually from the raspy thrash vocal style that originated with Venom.

Venom vocals weren't significantly different from a billion punk bands.

Seriously, Venom get way too much credit among the Metal community. They were a Motorhead derivative with Satanic lyrics. A good one, but that's exactly what Venom were.
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Tzimisce

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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:02 pm Post subject:

AntiSuperstar wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Yes. That vocal style evolved gradually from the raspy thrash vocal style that originated with Venom.

I was getting to that. Venom are credited with inventing thrash, but all they really did was play rawer, sloppier Motörhead tunes with some Discharge influence for good measure. But once they established that as an acceptable vocal style, then came Possessed in 1985 who took it and made it harsher, then skip ahead to the early iterations of the grindcore style [Napalm Death, Carcass] and Morbid Angel who further made it more extreme and guttural in the late 80s, and now you have the likes of Defeated Sanity doing what they do.

And that's the whole point. You can't put distorted power chords over a funk beat, add some rapping and call it metal for the same reason you can't stick a bunch of fruit and a knife in a toaster-oven and call it a blender. Metal evolved along a very specific path with branches that can be traced back to a common root. What gets called "nü-metal" [a term I absolutely LOATHE] got started when some kids with dreadlocks from Southern California thought it would be cool to take the RHCP formula and add teen angst. The development of it can't be traced back to metal's roots in any way.
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stillersenat

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:17 am Post subject:

While I dislike many elements from nu metal, I can still appreciate it. Especially as I feel the adding of the 5th and 7th strings is something that has only scratched the surface.

But then again I'm one of those metalheads that loves all metal. So....
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:26 am Post subject:

stillersenat wrote:

What's the point of putting extra strings on a guitar if you only ever use the lowest 3?
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stillersenat

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:53 am Post subject:

Tzimisce wrote:

stillersenat wrote:

What's the point of putting extra strings on a guitar if you only ever use the lowest 3?

And hence why I said scratched the surface. Nu metal needs to experiment more, IMO as the sound they are dedicated to handcuffs they're attempts at expanding their sound.

Example-how many percussionists does Slipknot need? I understand extra percussionists helps the depth of the sound but at what point does it become redundant to have a musician hitting something with a hammer to add to a sound? Especially when there is another percussionist, a drummer and a bassist who plays his bass like a percussion instrument.

My point is more to the affect of a non-nu metal band exploring the extra stings added.
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Tzimisce

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:55 am Post subject:

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My point is more to the affect of a non-nu metal band exploring the extra stings added.

A lot of them do. Morbid Angel started using 7-strings back in 1993; Chris Broderick, Jeff Loomis and Steve Smyth use them in power/thrash metal; Chris from Portal plays an 8-string. There's more but I'd have to research them. Then there's Meshuggah, whom I don't particularly care for, but they've been using 7 and 8-strings since the early 90s.

And can we PLEASE stop talking about nu-metal?
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Vikefan79

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject:

Tzimisce wrote:

stillersenat wrote:

My point is more to the affect of a non-nu metal band exploring the extra stings added.

as long as we can stop posting and talking about Death Metal
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Tzimisce

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

stillersenat wrote:

My point is more to the affect of a non-nu metal band exploring the extra stings added.

as long as we can stop posting and talking about Death Metal

No.
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Vikefan79

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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:34 pm Post subject:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

stillersenat wrote:

My point is more to the affect of a non-nu metal band exploring the extra stings added.

as long as we can stop posting and talking about Death Metal

No.

Word!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ZtHrWiSAk
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

Vikefan79 wrote:

Tzimisce wrote:

stillersenat wrote:

My point is more to the affect of a non-nu metal band exploring the extra stings added.

as long as we can stop posting and talking about Death Metal

No.

Word!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ZtHrWiSAk

I threw up in my mouth a little
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