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Marino vs Manning
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TheGreatDebater


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Peyton Manning vs Dan Marino Reply with quote

Starting a team off from scratch who's your QB Manning or Marino?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tough question. I'll take Manning but Marino isn't far off.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manning easilly.

Better in the regular season and the postseason.

Especially post season. Manning gets the flack, but he really has been good in the postseason. Marino gets a pass but didn't play well in his own right. Especially in losses. He was horrendous.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manning for me, Marino was incredible to watch, but Peyton was like no other QB I remember in the last decade
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marino lost playoff games because he often had no team.

What was Manning's excuse?


Not even close in my books.

By pure passing, Marino without question.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manning
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

x0x wrote:
Marino lost playoff games because he often had no team.

What was Manning's excuse?


Not even close in my books.

By pure passing, Marino without question.


Manning's excuse was that he only crapped the bed about 50% of the time, whereas Marino was usually playing as poorly as the rest of his team.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming he gets the benefits of the 1998-present rules, medicine and training - Marino
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Marino played half his games in perfect elements & was surrounded by elite weapons he'd probably equal or surpass Manning's accomplishments... But, there's no way to prove so i'll take Manning.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm starting a franchise it has to be Manning, his ability to call his own plays, make scrubs look like pro bowlers and play with a traffic offensive line makes my decision.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manning, hes more efficient, less turnover prone and i like him better in postseason. But,Marino NEVER had the talent that Peyton had especially offensively. I know there's been a lot of revionist history The last few years to make the Colts of the 00's out to be the Lebron James era Cavs, but those teams were loaded.

Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Marshall Faulk, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Jeff Saturday all made 1st Team All-Pro while playing with Peyton. 2008 was the only season in Manning's entire career that he didn't have an All-Pro skill position player, and Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark combined for 159 catches that season. And on Defense all pros like Dwight freeney and DPOY Bob sanders
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

x0x wrote:
Marino lost playoff games because he often had no team.

What was Manning's excuse?


Not even close in my books.

By pure passing, Marino without question.


77.6
66.9
54.9
72.1
56.5
109.8
63.4
29.3
65.5
34.6

Those are Marino's passer ratings in losses. He played poorly.

And his "lack of team" is getting a bit overdone. The defense was poor and there wasn't much of a run game. But Clayton and Duper were one of the better receiver tandems in the league and the o-line was great.

From 1984-1995 they were a top 10 offense in all but 3 years and top 5 for around half. That wasn't just Marino. And even if it was it doesn't explain why he couldn't do it in the playoffs.

Plain and simple Dan Marino sucked in the postseason and was just as responsible as any other player for their losses.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mse326 wrote:

77.6
66.9
54.9
72.1
56.5
109.8
63.4
29.3
65.5
34.6

Those are Marino's passer ratings in losses. He played poorly.


Considering the context and league averages, only four of those could be classified as poor. The rest would be mediocre to the one great.

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And his "lack of team" is getting a bit overdone. The defense was poor and there wasn't much of a run game. But Clayton and Duper were one of the better receiver tandems in the league and the o-line was great.


That's pretty freaking lacking. People here know of my opinion on the Marks brothers, made by Marino. They were also in their prime in the 80s when Marino had longer playoff runs.

The offensive line was largely mediocre for most of Marino's career, that one Hall of Fame Center notwithstanding (the only HF Marino played with).

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From 1984-1995 they were a top 10 offense in all but 3 years and top 5 for around half. That wasn't just Marino. And even if it was it doesn't explain why he couldn't do it in the playoffs.


I started watching in 1990, it was all Marino. Team is garbage without him. Pure garbage. Doesn't explain how he didn't win in the playoffs?? Oh let me see, he carries his team to win enough games against equal or slightly better opposition. He then faces the best of the best in the playoffs and cannot carry his team like Jesus against overwhelming odds. It's called circumstance genius.

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Plain and simple Dan Marino sucked in the postseason and was just as responsible as any other player for their losses.


Not really.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Considering the context and league averages, only four of those could be classified as poor. The rest would be mediocre to the one great.


So the majority of losses were his fault...
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Malik wrote:
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Considering the context and league averages, only four of those could be classified as poor. The rest would be mediocre to the one great.


So the majority of losses were his fault...


You bother reading the linked article??
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