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TheGreatDebater
Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 288 Location: Atlanta,GA
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: Peyton Manning vs Dan Marino |
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| Starting a team off from scratch who's your QB Manning or Marino? |
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jrry32
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 31291
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Tough question. I'll take Manning but Marino isn't far off. _________________
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mse326 
 Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 13513 Location: LORK on the sig
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Manning easilly.
Better in the regular season and the postseason.
Especially post season. Manning gets the flack, but he really has been good in the postseason. Marino gets a pass but didn't play well in his own right. Especially in losses. He was horrendous. _________________
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JaguarCrazy2832 
Joined: 28 Jun 2008 Posts: 73424
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Manning for me, Marino was incredible to watch, but Peyton was like no other QB I remember in the last decade _________________
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x0x 
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13903 Location: Oh Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Marino lost playoff games because he often had no team.
What was Manning's excuse?
Not even close in my books.
By pure passing, Marino without question. _________________ Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.
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Jaguarfan 
Joined: 27 Nov 2011 Posts: 11264 Location: Scarlet Town
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Manning _________________
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GaTechRavens 
 Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 15541 Location: Knoxville, TN
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| x0x wrote: | Marino lost playoff games because he often had no team.
What was Manning's excuse?
Not even close in my books.
By pure passing, Marino without question. |
Manning's excuse was that he only crapped the bed about 50% of the time, whereas Marino was usually playing as poorly as the rest of his team. _________________
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ukdolfan 
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: |
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Assuming he gets the benefits of the 1998-present rules, medicine and training - Marino _________________
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DirtyDez
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Posts: 9624 Location: the Arizona desert
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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If Marino played half his games in perfect elements & was surrounded by elite weapons he'd probably equal or surpass Manning's accomplishments... But, there's no way to prove so i'll take Manning. _________________
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texans_uk 
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:03 am Post subject: |
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If I'm starting a franchise it has to be Manning, his ability to call his own plays, make scrubs look like pro bowlers and play with a traffic offensive line makes my decision. _________________
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CP3MVP
Joined: 07 Feb 2012 Posts: 195
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Manning, hes more efficient, less turnover prone and i like him better in postseason. But,Marino NEVER had the talent that Peyton had especially offensively. I know there's been a lot of revionist history The last few years to make the Colts of the 00's out to be the Lebron James era Cavs, but those teams were loaded.
Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Marshall Faulk, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, and Jeff Saturday all made 1st Team All-Pro while playing with Peyton. 2008 was the only season in Manning's entire career that he didn't have an All-Pro skill position player, and Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark combined for 159 catches that season. And on Defense all pros like Dwight freeney and DPOY Bob sanders |
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mse326 
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| x0x wrote: | Marino lost playoff games because he often had no team.
What was Manning's excuse?
Not even close in my books.
By pure passing, Marino without question. |
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Those are Marino's passer ratings in losses. He played poorly.
And his "lack of team" is getting a bit overdone. The defense was poor and there wasn't much of a run game. But Clayton and Duper were one of the better receiver tandems in the league and the o-line was great.
From 1984-1995 they were a top 10 offense in all but 3 years and top 5 for around half. That wasn't just Marino. And even if it was it doesn't explain why he couldn't do it in the playoffs.
Plain and simple Dan Marino sucked in the postseason and was just as responsible as any other player for their losses. _________________
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x0x 
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13903 Location: Oh Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| mse326 wrote: |
77.6
66.9
54.9
72.1
56.5
109.8
63.4
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Those are Marino's passer ratings in losses. He played poorly. |
Considering the context and league averages, only four of those could be classified as poor. The rest would be mediocre to the one great.
| Quote: | | And his "lack of team" is getting a bit overdone. The defense was poor and there wasn't much of a run game. But Clayton and Duper were one of the better receiver tandems in the league and the o-line was great. |
That's pretty freaking lacking. People here know of my opinion on the Marks brothers, made by Marino. They were also in their prime in the 80s when Marino had longer playoff runs.
The offensive line was largely mediocre for most of Marino's career, that one Hall of Fame Center notwithstanding (the only HF Marino played with).
| Quote: | | From 1984-1995 they were a top 10 offense in all but 3 years and top 5 for around half. That wasn't just Marino. And even if it was it doesn't explain why he couldn't do it in the playoffs. |
I started watching in 1990, it was all Marino. Team is garbage without him. Pure garbage. Doesn't explain how he didn't win in the playoffs?? Oh let me see, he carries his team to win enough games against equal or slightly better opposition. He then faces the best of the best in the playoffs and cannot carry his team like Jesus against overwhelming odds. It's called circumstance genius.
| Quote: | | Plain and simple Dan Marino sucked in the postseason and was just as responsible as any other player for their losses. |
Not really. _________________ Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.
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Malik
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Considering the context and league averages, only four of those could be classified as poor. The rest would be mediocre to the one great. |
So the majority of losses were his fault... |
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x0x 
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 13903 Location: Oh Canada
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Malik wrote: | | Quote: | | Considering the context and league averages, only four of those could be classified as poor. The rest would be mediocre to the one great. |
So the majority of losses were his fault... |
You bother reading the linked article?? _________________ Legends Never Die. They Breathe Through The New Generation.
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