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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its A Sabotage wrote:


Round One:
7. Indianapolis Colts (1 – 1) // Barrett Jones, OL Alabama

Round Three:
71. Indianapolis Colts (1 – 1) // Chase Thomas, OLB Stanford
Love, it , love it, love it! Love the players, love the positions, love the value! Don't change anything for Indy!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Amerson falls that low then the Steelers need to jump on him. The Jeffcoat pick is understandable but I would love Amerson there instead. I like Johnson there in the third a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really can't see us taking a QB in the 3rd. If Brandon Weeden is successful enough that he does not warrant replacement in the first, then I imagine we'll stick with whats on our roster.

We have our starter, we have our backup, we have our developmental project (Thad Lewis). Honestly, unless we end up picking 1 or 2, I dont expect we'll draft a QB unless we bring in a 7th rounder.

Drafting an "Ohio" QB just to draft one in the third wont really be helpful. The new owner wont need a QB like that to bring in fans so I would expect us to get another defensive back (especially if Heckert is still around), another pass rusher or a Tight End
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estonianzulu wrote:
I really can't see us taking a QB in the 3rd. If Brandon Weeden is successful enough that he does not warrant replacement in the first, then I imagine we'll stick with whats on our roster.

We have our starter, we have our backup, we have our developmental project (Thad Lewis). Honestly, unless we end up picking 1 or 2, I dont expect we'll draft a QB unless we bring in a 7th rounder.

Drafting an "Ohio" QB just to draft one in the third wont really be helpful. The new owner wont need a QB like that to bring in fans so I would expect us to get another defensive back (especially if Heckert is still around), another pass rusher or a Tight End


Zac isn't the case of drafting an Ohio Quarterback to be an Ohio Quarterback, and since this has moved up into the late first round in my grading system. I don't believe in Weeden and have a feeling if things are blown up inside as some are speculating could happen, a Quarterback to have if Weeden doesn't pan out is going to be needed. But it this isn't valid, he won't be there when you guys pick next, so its moot.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remixxxxxxx wrote:
That could possibly be the worst Eagles mock that I've seen this year. There's no way that tight end is a first round need for us - we need an OT[which you have us taking], S[we need a playmaking safety, no more of this midround garbage - McDonald or Vaccaro], WLB[maybe], CB[pushing it], or an OG before a TE. Pretty poor effort here Sabo.


Agree there.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keenan Allen immediatley makes me love this draft.
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The draft order of picks 1-20 is determined by win %, strength of schedule, divisional record, and conference record in that order. Picks 21-32 feature teams that would be in the playoffs if the season ended today, and projections are based on record and strength of schedule/seeding.
Round One:
1. New Orleans Saints // Samuel Montgomery, DE Louisiana State University
2. Cleveland Browns // Jarvis Jones, OLB Georgia
3. Carolina Panthers // Johnathan Hankins, DT Ohio State
4. St. Louis Rams (from Washington) // Luke Joeckel, OT Texas A&M
5. Oakland Raiders // Star Lotuleli, DT Utah
6. Tennessee Titans // Eric Reid, S Louisiana State University
7. St. Louis Rams // Justin Hunter, WR Tennessee
8. Pittsburgh Steelers // Barkevious Mingo, OLB Louisiana State University
9. Detroit Lions // Xavier Rhodes, CB Florida State University
10. Kansas City Chiefs // Eugene Smith, QB West Virginia
11. Indianapolis Colts // Barrett Jones, OL Alabama
12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // Dee Milliner, CB Alabama
13. Miami Dolphins // Kennan Allen, WR California
14. Jacksonville Jaguars // Taylor Lewan, OT Michigan
15. Green Bay Packers // Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame
16. New England Patriots // Chance Warmack, OG Alabama
17. Denver Broncos // Manti Te’O, MLB Notre Dame
18. New York Giants // Jake Matthews, OT Texas A&M
19. San Francisco 49ers // David Amerson, CB/S North Carolina State
20. Philadelphia Eagles // Dallas Thomas, OT Tennessee
21. Cincinnati Bengals // Marcus Lattimore, RB South Carolina
22. Buffalo Bills // Tyler Wilson, QB Arkansas
23. Chicago Bears // Bjoern Werner, DE Florida State University
24. Dallas Cowboys // Jonathan Cooper, OG North Carolina
25. Minnesota Vikings // Robert Woods, WR Southern California
26. New York Jets // Jackson Jeffcoat, OLB Texas
27. San Diego Chargers // Johnthan Banks, CB Mississippi State
28. Seattle Seahawks // Dion Jordan, DE/OLB Oregon
29. Baltimore Ravens // Andrew Jackson, ILB Western Kentucky
30. Atlanta Falcons // C.J. Fiedorowaicz, TE Iowa
31. Houston Texans // John Jenkins, DT Georgia
32. Arizona Cardinals // Oday Aboushi, OT Virginia

Round Two:
33. New Orleans Saints // ** Forfeited due to Bountygate **
34. Cleveland Browns // ** Used on Josh Gordon, in Supplemental Draft **
35. Carolina Panthers // Aaron Dobson, WR Marshall
36. Washington Redskins // Justin Gilbert, CB Oklahoma State
37. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland) // Alex Okafor, DE Texas
38. Tennessee Titans // Larry Warford, OG Kentucky
39. St. Louis Rams // Kenny Vaccaro, S Texas
40. Pittsburgh Steelers // Terry Hawthorne, CB Illinois
41. Detroit Lions // T.J. McDonald, S Southern California
42. Kansas City Chiefs // Tony Jefferson, S Oklahoma
43. Miami Dolphins (from Indianapolis) // Corey Lemonier, DE Auburn
44. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // Matthew Barkley, QB Southern California
45. Miami Dolphins // Logan Ryan, CB Rutgers
46. Jacksonville Jaguars // Sean Porter, OLB Texas A&M
47. Green Bay Packers // Giovani Bernard, RB North Carolina
48. New England Patriots // Khaled Holmes, C Southern California
49. Denver Broncos // Carrington Byndom, CB Texas
50. New York Giants // John Simon, DE Ohio State
51. San Francisco 49ers // D.J. Fluker, OG Alabama
52. Philadelphia Eagles // Khaseem Greene, OLB Rutgers
53. Cincinnati Bengals // Gerald Hodges, OLB Penn State
54. Buffalo Bills // Terrance Williams, WR Baylor
55. Chicago Bears // Mark Jackson, OT Glennville State
56. Dallas Cowboys // Damontre Moore, OLB Texas A&M
57. Minnesota Vikings // A.J. Klein, MLB Iowa State
58. New York Jets // Morgan Moses, OT Virginia
59. San Diego Chargers // Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB Connecticut
60. Seattle Seahawks // Kawann Short, DT Purdue
61. Baltimore Ravens // Robert Lester, S Alabama
62. Atlanta Falcons // Zac Stacy, RB Vanderbilt
63. Houston Texans // Tavon Austin, WR West Virginia
64. Arizona Cardinals // Logan Thomas, QB Virginia Tech

Round Three:
65. New Orleans Saints // Jelani Jenkins, OLB Florida
66. Cleveland Browns // James Gayle, DE Virginia Tech
67. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) // Travis Swanson, C Arkansas
68. Washington Redskins // Brennan Williams, OT North Carolina
69. Oakland Raiders // William Gholston, DE Michigan State
70. Tennessee Titans // Cornellius Carradine, DE Florida State University
71. St. Louis Rams // Chase Thomas, OLB Stanford
72. Pittsburgh Steelers // Chris Gragg, TE Arkansas
73. Detroit Lions // Matthew Elam, S Florida
74. Kansas City Chiefs // Alexander Ogletree, ILB Georgia
75. Indianapolis Colts // Jamie Collins, OLB Southern Mississippi
76. Tampa Bay Buccaneers // Jesse Williams, DT Alabama
77. Miami Dolphins // Jonathan Brown, OLB Illinois
78. Jacksonville Jaguars // Travis Frederick, OG Wisconsin
79. Green Bay Packers // Nico Johnson, ILB Alabama
80. New England Patriots // Da’Rick Rogers, WR Tennessee Tech
81. Denver Broncos // Justin Pugh, OT Syracuse
82. New York Giants // Zac Dysert, QB Miami (OH.)
83. San Francisco 49ers // Michael Buchanan, OLB Illinois
84. Philadelphia Eagles // Micah Hyde, S Iowa
85. Cincinnati Bengals // Kyle Fuller, CB Virginia Tech
86. Buffalo Bills // Phillip Lutzenkirchen, TE Auburn
87. Miami Dolphins (from Chicago) // Akeem Spence, DT Illinois
88. Dallas Cowboys // Margus Hunt, 5T SMU
89. Minnesota Vikings // Sylvester Williams, DT North Carolina
90. New York Jets // Andre Ellington, RB Clemson
91. San Diego Chargers // Duke Williams, S Nevada
92. Seattle Seahawks // David Quessenberry, OT San Jose State
93. Baltimore Ravens // Ricky Wagner, OT Wisconsin
94. Atlanta Falcons // Everett Dawkins, DT Florida State University
95. Houston Texans // Zach Ertz, TE Stanford
96. Arizona Cardinals // Shayne Skov, ILB Stanford

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the Titans picks, can't complain. Fills 3 huge needs at safety, OG, and DE depth.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Bengals picks, but I would go for a SS over Alex Okafor. Carlos Dunlap and Michael Johnson are good starters, the Bengals need depth at the position, and you can find depth outside of the top 40, or even the top 3 rounds.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't see CB/TE as 2nd and 3rd round needs for Steelers. Safety/O-line/ILB are bigger needs if we address OLB in 1st
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Vikings are #25 spot:

R1 - Robert Woods (WR)
R2 - Kawann Short (DT)
R3 - Shayne Skov (MLB)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be happy with it.
But I think Werner in the first would be better since we have no depth on the dl. And we have 3 capable starting corners already in Rogers brown and cully.
Also think chase Thomas at the top of the third and then ertz or toilollo at the bottom of the third.

Other needs would be safety, guard, center, tackle, dt
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barkley in the second? Can't argue with that.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Sabotage's 2013 Mock Draft Thread 3 Rounds v1.3 9/28/12 Reply with quote

Don't know if it was intentional or acciedental on your part, but I'd say the likelihood of the Chargers drafting 3 straight DB's isn't very good.

Banks in the 1st round is good. No need to change that one. But CB's in two straight rounds... yeah, not so much. I'd say probably either Chase Thomas or Cornellius Carradine; normally I'd say that Tavon Austin would be a great value pick there as well, but with Malcom Floyd now extended our Top 3 on the DC is pretty well set. Wouldn't be opposed to the pick, just not sure how much he'd see the field; by that argument I'd soon take Short and work him as a project NT that Cam Thomas has thus far failed to develop into. Even AJ giving up on Jonas Mouton after two years and spending the pick on Nico Johnson or Alex Ogletree seems more likely.

Williams in the 3rd I just can't see. AJ burned a 4th round pick on Darrell Stuckey and gave him at least 2 seasons past his rookie year to prove he wasn't going to be the guy before drafting someone else. I honestly don't believe that AJ was expecting a ton out of Brandon Taylor this year; and in a sense he was right as he's yet to be a game-day active yet in 2012. For the moment though, he'll be viewed as the heir apparent to Bigby until he proved otherwise. Here's where OL will probably be seen to come off the board. Wagner might be the best fit given that he's a Big 10 prospect (one of those three conferences AJ drafts his OL from), he could be a RT (and God-willing replace Jeromey Clary) or an OG (where both our starters are FA's); I could see Illinois' Graham Pocic and LSU's Alex Hurst (though I think a smart coach moves him inside to guard at the next level and just sits back and watches the beauty ensue) as options as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Sabotage's 2013 Mock Draft Thread 3 Rounds v1.3 9/28/12 Reply with quote

The LBC wrote:
Don't know if it was intentional or acciedental on your part, but I'd say the likelihood of the Chargers drafting 3 straight DB's isn't very good.


Well, the way this broke down, I planned, much like the PM you sent for me, in the future. Banks will give you the sure starter this year with Blidi being a shutdown (one of the few this draft) to have to give limited snaps to. With both your corners now being free agents, I felt the secondary needed to be addressed as your Offensive Line will be addressed later on in the draft. I didn't go Receiver in the third, as the way my board broke down with team needs, they fell further then they would in a live draft setting. Duke I felt is a player that can sit for part of his rookie year then come in to make an impact. The opposite was true for the Offensive Line, as they went more frequently, didn't leave the quality of player for you to take in the third. When I was finishing the 5th round earlier, I believe Tavon actually did fall to your pick in the 4th, and you taking a swing tackle in the 5th.
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