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Grachuus
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Rhoddy White is a man who catches about half the balls that come his way and gets a ton of targets. I wouldn't put him in my top five. Receivers are supposed to catch the football.
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For me they are. Cruz is always making a big play, dynamic after the catch, explosive, attacks the ball. Nicks has more consistent hands and is a smoother route runner. But Cruz is better for my money.
Jordy is definitely the best on GB. The guy is always making big plays, great catches, getting separation, attacks the ball, makes the tough catches. Jennings is better after the catch and more explosive in and out of his breaks better route runner. But Jordy is a bigger match up problem and stretches the defense better. In a big spot in a tough situation making a hard catch, give me Jordy. |
Ask any giants fan who they think is better and they will tell you its nicks without hesitation. Nicks can play inside/outside, better route runner, better deep threat, runs entire route tree, better release, better at beating press etc. Cruz is better in the short passing game and is probably more dynamic after the catch but thats isnt a knock on nicks because he is great with the ball in his hands and his pretty dynamic its just cruz is special with ball in his hands. And plus Nicks plays against the teams best corner while cruz plays mostly against the nickel.
I think jennings is better but thats your opinion.
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[quote="OneBadCat"]He only had a big game because Norman the rookie was covering and Nakamura sucks [inappropriate/removed]. Gamble had to shut down J. Jones because he was the bigger threat.[/quote]
and he wrecked against the broncos
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GSUeagles14
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| incognito_man wrote: | | GSUeagles14 wrote: | | incognito_man wrote: | | He's top 3 at getting the ball thrown to him. Up there with Brandon Marshall in that regard. |
I forgot, getting thrown the ball is bad. Occasionally getting open is good. |
It's cute how you have to comment on everything I say. It's like having an online puppy that's learning its independence  |
It's sad that you can't back up your arguments and try to resort to, Personal attacks. poor ones at that |
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incognito_man
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| GSUeagles14 wrote: |
It's sad that you can't back up your arguments and try to resort to, Personal attacks. poor ones at that |
Are you arguing that Roddy White isn't among the league leaders in targets consistently?
That was my claim.
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GSUeagles14
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| incognito_man wrote: | | GSUeagles14 wrote: |
It's sad that you can't back up your arguments and try to resort to, Personal attacks. poor ones at that |
Are you arguing that Roddy White isn't among the league leaders in targets consistently?
That was my claim.
Feel free to provide a counter argument |
So what was the point in posting than sine it had nothing to do with the question. Where do you rank white? |
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scar988
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| Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Grachuus wrote: | | Rhoddy White is a man who catches about half the balls that come his way and gets a ton of targets. I wouldn't put him in my top five. Receivers are supposed to catch the football. |
he has 1 drop in 2012...
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FalconFan13
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Huge Roddy fan and think he is a top 5 WR but he is not a top 3 WR. I have roddy at 4 after those 3 and then greg jennings at 5.
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Mesa_Titan
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| scar988 wrote: | | Grachuus wrote: | | Rhoddy White is a man who catches about half the balls that come his way and gets a ton of targets. I wouldn't put him in my top five. Receivers are supposed to catch the football. |
he has 1 drop in 2012... |
Yes because he was clearly saying Roddy White drops 50% of his passes.
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JDKing14
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| incognito_man wrote: | | GSUeagles14 wrote: |
It's sad that you can't back up your arguments and try to resort to, Personal attacks. poor ones at that |
Are you arguing that Roddy White isn't among the league leaders in targets consistently?
That was my claim.
Feel free to provide a counter argument |
You know who else is in the league leaders in targets consistently? Calvin, Andre, and Fitz. |
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ATL Jones Bro3
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| Since when have we said WR's are bad because they get more targets? This forum is stupid and that guy who keeps posting the laughing smiley is cocky and thinks he's an expert on everything football. |
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ATL Jones Bro3
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| Mesa_Titan wrote: | | scar988 wrote: | | Grachuus wrote: | | Rhoddy White is a man who catches about half the balls that come his way and gets a ton of targets. I wouldn't put him in my top five. Receivers are supposed to catch the football. |
he has 1 drop in 2012... |
Yes because he was clearly saying Roddy White drops 50% of his passes. |
But it's not even in the realm of possibility though. He's a dumb Falcons hater like 92% of this forum. |
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Grachuus
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| ATL Jones Bro3 wrote: | | Mesa_Titan wrote: | | scar988 wrote: | | Grachuus wrote: | | Rhoddy White is a man who catches about half the balls that come his way and gets a ton of targets. I wouldn't put him in my top five. Receivers are supposed to catch the football. |
he has 1 drop in 2012... |
Yes because he was clearly saying Roddy White drops 50% of his passes. |
But it's not even in the realm of possibility though. He's a dumb Falcons hater like 92% of this forum. |
Explain what I have to hate about the Falcons.
The number of targets a player receives CAN be good. The issue is the number of plays a player takes up in comparison to the number of catches they make can make an offense either more or less reliable. That is to say if Rhoddy gets all of Ryan's targets for example but only catches 200 balls(on 500 attempts) even though he has caught an amazing amount of footballs the Falcons have had what is assuredly a poor season and Rhoddy failed to make good on his opportunities.
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tom cody
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No, not yet. Still if he plays likes he has so far this season he'll find his way in the top 3.
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reckless123
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Correct me if im wrong, but targets can be misleading. Just because you are targetted it doesnt mean that all the balls are catchable. A pass can be broken up, it can be a poor pass, you can throw the ball when the WR isnt open etc. Larry Fitzgerald gets loads are targets if im not mistaken but he has had terrible QB play and what do bad QBs do, they then to force the ball to their best weapon because theyre most comfortable throwing the ball to that the guy.
The only way targets can be used as a bad stat imo is if you have a ton of targets but dont have reasonable amount of yards for that stat. For instance if you 200 targets but only have 1200 yards, then it can be used as a negative.
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