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Bohlmann20
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Bohlmann20 wrote: | | This is true. Mangini was a good coach put in a bad position. |
Yet earlier in this thread....
| Quote: | | Mangini - sucks, but everyone knows it, so not overrated |
Please....stop....I cants takes no mores. |
I changed my mind. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Thing that got me was how highly touted the Browns were coming into 95.
Oh sure, the AFC was a crapshoot in the 90s before Denver but still....two major magazines picked Cleveland to make Super Bowl? A bit much no?
I would have thought Steelers & Chiefs and even Charges would be rated above the Browns.
Yeah the staff was pretty good but remember there's a lot of people in the NFL. Many years down the road who the hell knows what happens to the entire Cardinals staff right?
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hornbybrown
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| x0x wrote: | Thing that got me was how highly touted the Browns were coming into 95.
Oh sure, the AFC was a crapshoot in the 90s before Denver but still....two major magazines picked Cleveland to make Super Bowl? A bit much no?
I would have thought Steelers & Chiefs and even Charges would be rated above the Browns.
Yeah the staff was pretty good but remember there's a lot of people in the NFL. Many years down the road who the hell knows what happens to the entire Cardinals staff right? |
3-1 before they found out they were moving. Tanked after that.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| hornbybrown wrote: | | 3-1 before they found out they were moving. Tanked after that. |
Did you go back and look at who they faced Weeks 1-4?
Modell made the official announcement November 5th when the team was 4-4.
Could they have made Super Bowl? Sure, but they wouldn't have won it by a longshot.
Packers or Boys would have eaten them alive.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| Bohlmann20 wrote: | | Dallas94Ware wrote: | | Majority of those guys are overrated. A couple are even out of the league coaching wise. |
What?
Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 |
How is this possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyFaLT-L2uk
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| Willink wrote: | | Bohlmann20 wrote: | | Dallas94Ware wrote: | | Majority of those guys are overrated. A couple are even out of the league coaching wise. |
What?
Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 |
How is this possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyFaLT-L2uk |
I avoided replying in this thread. But this was the absolutely perfect response to the post. Well done. Almost too well done.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| x0x wrote: | | hornbybrown wrote: | | 3-1 before they found out they were moving. Tanked after that. |
Did you go back and look at who they faced Weeks 1-4?
Modell made the official announcement November 5th when the team was 4-4.
Could they have made Super Bowl? Sure, but they wouldn't have won it by a longshot.
Packers or Boys would have eaten them alive. |
yes the official announcement was made in November but the word of them moving made their way around the locker room before the official announcements. did you think the idea of moving, getting the agreement to move, and etc all came in one day?Nope they had to work on it, get it worked out with Baltimore and all that other stuff involved with it. the message was written on the wall way before the official announcement. Hearing they were being moved ruined their mindset
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topwop1
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Jim Schwartz' entire coaching career has been one giant case of delayed nerd rage. |
LOOOOOL that's hilarious.
No wonder why the Lions play so undisciplined and dirty. It all makes sense now. All those years of Schwartzy getting bullied and picked on throughout his youth.
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| texans_uk wrote: | | candyman93 wrote: | | ugLymayNe wrote: | | Bohlmann20 wrote: | | Dallas94Ware wrote: | | Majority of those guys are overrated. A couple are even out of the league coaching wise. |
What?
Belicheck - top coach in all of football
Dimitroff - Don't know who that is.
Pioli - not a coach any longer, not valid
Lombardi - Isn't that the guy the trophy is named after? If so, top 3 coach of all time.
Ferentz - Overrated
Saban - top 3 coach in all of football
Schwartz - Overrated
Newsome - idk
Mangini - sucks, but everyone knows it, so not overrated |
Oh my...............Yeah, Vince game back in 1995 to coach the Brownies..
And you don't know who Ozzie Newsome or Thomas Dimitroff is? Oh ok. Do you not pay attention to the whole NFL or do you just know your own team? |
He doesn't have a team |
He only knows his own team * he doesn't have a team = he doesn't know anything |
I'm assuming not. What football fan that takes time to nerd it up like us on the internets doesn't know who build the current Ravens/Falcons?
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| Crazy how their coaching staff said the Ray Lewis pick was a done deal and that they had scouted him a ton the previous year in Cleveland. How different things could have been if they hadn't left. |
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GaTechRavens
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| STLRamsFan99 wrote: | | Crazy how their coaching staff said the Ray Lewis pick was a done deal and that they had scouted him a ton the previous year in Cleveland. How different things could have been if they hadn't left. |
I don't know about that. It's pretty well known among our fans that John Mobley was Ozzie's crush in that draft.
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STLRamsFan99
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| GaTechRavens wrote: | | STLRamsFan99 wrote: | | Crazy how their coaching staff said the Ray Lewis pick was a done deal and that they had scouted him a ton the previous year in Cleveland. How different things could have been if they hadn't left. |
I don't know about that. It's pretty well known among our fans that John Mobley was Ozzie's crush in that draft. |
I am just going by what they said on that documentary, Football Life: Cleveland Browns 1995. The staff that went to Baltimore said something of that nature. |
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FourThreeMafia
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Bohlmann20 wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Bohlmann20 wrote: | | This is true. Mangini was a good coach put in a bad position. |
Yet earlier in this thread....
| Quote: | | Mangini - sucks, but everyone knows it, so not overrated |
Please....stop....I cants takes no mores. |
I changed my mind. |
You mean...
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Still waiting for your laugh.... |
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x0x
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| buno67 wrote: | | x0x wrote: | | hornbybrown wrote: | | 3-1 before they found out they were moving. Tanked after that. |
Did you go back and look at who they faced Weeks 1-4?
Modell made the official announcement November 5th when the team was 4-4.
Could they have made Super Bowl? Sure, but they wouldn't have won it by a longshot.
Packers or Boys would have eaten them alive. |
yes the official announcement was made in November but the word of them moving made their way around the locker room before the official announcements. did you think the idea of moving, getting the agreement to move, and etc all came in one day?Nope they had to work on it, get it worked out with Baltimore and all that other stuff involved with it. the message was written on the wall way before the official announcement. Hearing they were being moved ruined their mindset |
True but doesn't that cast a shadow over the team's mental toughness to go all the way?
Yes it was a big distraction but look at the Phoenix Coyotes this past season or the Nordiques in 1995.
Okay, so not many here are hockey fans, fine, I'll give you football examples....oh wait.....there aren't many examples of good teams being moved.
And I guess that's the really sad part about the Cleveland relocation. They were a good team that got moved, almost unheard of in football where, no offense but franchises like the Saints and my Cardinals remained despite years of crud.
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Bohlmann20
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| Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Bohlmann20 wrote: | | FourThreeMafia wrote: | | Bohlmann20 wrote: | | This is true. Mangini was a good coach put in a bad position. |
Yet earlier in this thread....
| Quote: | | Mangini - sucks, but everyone knows it, so not overrated |
Please....stop....I cants takes no mores. |
I changed my mind. |
You mean...
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No, I'm not backpedaling. Someone in this thread changed my mind with an enlightening post. |
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