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Just wanted to see who you guys thought was the worst QB from each division. Here are my thoughts.
-AFC-
EAST: Mark Sanchez
WEST: Matt Cassell
NORTH: Brandon Weeden
SOUTH: Blaine Gabbert
-NFC-
EAST: Robert Griffin III
WEST: Russell Wilson
NORTH: Christian Ponder
SOUTH: Josh Freeman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Worst Starting QB From Each Division |
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| Jamison. wrote: | Just wanted to see who you guys thought was the worst QB from each division. Here are my thoughts.
-AFC-
EAST: Mark Sanchez
WEST: Matt Cassell
NORTH: Brandon Weeden
SOUTH: Blaine Gabbert
-NFC-
EAST: Robert Griffin III
WEST: Russell Wilson
NORTH: Christian Ponder
SOUTH: Josh Freeman |
I agree with your list. |
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I know Griffin is a rookie but he and Romo are becoming very debatable. 
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| Russell2Bailey wrote: | | I know Griffin is a rookie but he and Romo are becoming very debatable. |
Same with Vick.
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| ArodFanboy wrote: | | Russell2Bailey wrote: | | I know Griffin is a rookie but he and Romo are becoming very debatable. |
Same with Vick. |
Agreed. I actually think Romo is fine, but Vick is a much bigger liability as a starter right now than Griffin.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Worst Starting QB From Each Division |
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| Jamison. wrote: |
-AFC-
EAST: Mark Sanchez
WEST: Matt Cassell
NORTH: Brandon Weeden
SOUTH: Blaine Gabbert
-NFC-
EAST: Michael Vick
WEST: Kevin Kolb
NORTH: Christian Ponder
SOUTH: Josh Freeman |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| kenney wrote: | | ArodFanboy wrote: | | Russell2Bailey wrote: | | I know Griffin is a rookie but he and Romo are becoming very debatable. |
Same with Vick. |
Agreed. I actually think Romo is fine, but Vick is a much bigger liability as a starter right now than Griffin. |
Agreed. It would definitely be between Vick and RG3.
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Jamison.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| waremd wrote: | | kenney wrote: | | ArodFanboy wrote: | | Russell2Bailey wrote: | | I know Griffin is a rookie but he and Romo are becoming very debatable. |
Same with Vick. |
Agreed. I actually think Romo is fine, but Vick is a much bigger liability as a starter right now than Griffin. |
Agreed. It would definitely be between Vick and RG3. |
Do you really think that RG3 can put a team on his back like Vick has? Honestly, I know Vick can screw his team over from time to time but the guy can light it up.
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| Jamison. wrote: | | waremd wrote: | | kenney wrote: | | ArodFanboy wrote: | | Russell2Bailey wrote: | | I know Griffin is a rookie but he and Romo are becoming very debatable. |
Same with Vick. |
Agreed. I actually think Romo is fine, but Vick is a much bigger liability as a starter right now than Griffin. |
Agreed. It would definitely be between Vick and RG3. |
Do you really think that RG3 can put a team on his back like Vick has? Honestly, I know Vick can screw his team over from time to time but the guy can light it up. |
Griffin has been a huge reason why the Redskins have risen from the cellar so far. Everyone knows he's quick, has a strong arm and is very intelligent. However the thing that is overlooked is how much punishment he takes and pure will he has shown so far. I'm not sure he can "put the team on his back" yet, but he sure as heck has looked like it's coming in the future. I can confidently say he's already a better decision maker then Vick overall. He did give himself a concussion on that scramble last week, but he protects the ball well for a young QB in the passing game. He's fumbled on scrambles quite a few times so far, but you have too think with his strong intelligence that's going to get better as soon as this year sometime.
In short, it's close right now. Very close. At least to me anyway.
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| Mark Sanchez is a better QB than Ryan Fitzpatrick IMO.. |
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| BillsGuy82 wrote: | | Mark Sanchez is a better QB than Ryan Fitzpatrick IMO.. |
Sanchez has a beyond terrible 48.4 completion percentage to go with a 66.6 QB rating. Fitz has a 58.3 completion percentage with a QB rating at 84.2.
I can understand being a frustrated fan with your QB's play because Fitz is nothing close to special but Sanchez is the worst QB in the league right now, bar none.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Worst Starting QB From Each Division |
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| macklemore wrote: | | Jamison. wrote: |
-AFC-
EAST: Mark Sanchez
WEST: Matt Cassell
NORTH: Brandon Weeden
SOUTH: Blaine Gabbert
-NFC-
EAST: Michael Vick
WEST: Kevin Kolb
NORTH: Christian Ponder
SOUTH: Josh Freeman |
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Right now I would take Kolb over both Bradford and Wilson in the West. I meam Kolb is completing 60% of his passes, has 7 TD's to just 2 INT's and a QBR of 89.7
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| Ketchup wrote: | | BillsGuy82 wrote: | | Mark Sanchez is a better QB than Ryan Fitzpatrick IMO.. |
Sanchez has a beyond terrible 48.4 completion percentage to go with a 66.6 QB rating. Fitz has a 58.3 completion percentage with a QB rating at 84.2.
I can understand being a frustrated fan with your QB's play because Fitz is nothing close to special but Sanchez is the worst QB in the league right now, bar none. |
To be fair. The Jets have been completely obliterated with injuries this year. Unfortunately, Sanchez has had literally zero help whatsoever. (Keller, Holmes, Hill, Gates, Epps, Baker)
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Worst Starting QB From Each Division |
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| khodder wrote: | | macklemore wrote: | | Jamison. wrote: |
-AFC-
EAST: Mark Sanchez
WEST: Matt Cassell
NORTH: Brandon Weeden
SOUTH: Blaine Gabbert
-NFC-
EAST: Michael Vick
WEST: Kevin Kolb
NORTH: Christian Ponder
SOUTH: Josh Freeman |
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Right now I would take Kolb over both Bradford and Wilson in the West. I meam Kolb is completing 60% of his passes, has 7 TD's to just 2 INT's and a QBR of 89.7 |
Kind of surprised you would take him over Bradford. Wasn't everyone complaining last thursday that Kolb always holds onto the ball too long?
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Worst Starting QB From Each Division |
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| Jamison. wrote: | | khodder wrote: | | Right now I would take Kolb over both Bradford and Wilson in the West. I meam Kolb is completing 60% of his passes, has 7 TD's to just 2 INT's and a QBR of 89.7 |
Kind of surprised you would take him over Bradford. Wasn't everyone complaining last thursday that Kolb always holds onto the ball too long? |
Not that I heard, the complaints were three fold, we were giving our QB no time ans as a result our passing plays had no time to develop. The terrible playcalling kept leaving our offensive tackles on islands against two very good pass rushers and finally, when we did have time there were throws that Kevin missed that would have been huge for the offense.
He can tend to hold onto the ball at times, but I would rather a sack for a loss of 5-10 than an INT.
With Bradford you have a guy that has never produced a QBR north of 80 for a single season. Kolb over the last two seasons has produced better completion percentages, better TD% and better TD%-INT%, better YPA and better QBR.
You give Kevin time he can make the big throws the issue with this team right now is giving him that time. Bradford is on the bullet train to Bustsville at the moment.
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