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jrry32
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| bpastermack wrote: | | jrry32 wrote: | | DirtyDez wrote: | | Clutch wrote: | | Try going to the Rams/Cards/Bears/Jets forums and ask them about their current situation and what they would give to have Jake. . |
At least a 1st & 3rd if he re-signs... |
Really? I wouldn't offer anything unless he plans to re-sign and if he does, I wouldn't offer more than a 2nd because I'm assuming the money he'll want is excessive. |
Sounds about right and I wouldn't trade him for less than a 2nd AND 3rd if I am Miami, so it's not going to happen. |
I wasn't saying a 2nd and a 3rd, just a 2nd. Then again, I don't value the LT position anywhere nearly as highly as most people do.
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Fender
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| dolphinologist wrote: | | SUG wrote: | For the Love of God somebody convince the Phins to trade Jake Long before other teams figure out
he is not worth trading for a low 2nd rnd pk ....!!!!
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Half of these daffodils that think he's a top 5 LT couldn't name the other 4.
They sit and watch game after game and can't see a difference in his play. |
Both of you are seriously clueless if you believe he isnt worth more than low 2nd... |
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cddolphin
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| It's night and day for some people on both sides of the fence. |
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Fender
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| cddolphin wrote: | | It's night and day for some people on both sides of the fence. |
Through the 1st 3rd of 2012 he is not Anthony Munoz, but to suggest he is Vladimir Ducasse is quite amusing. |
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dolphinologist
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Fender wrote: | | dolphinologist wrote: | | SUG wrote: | For the Love of God somebody convince the Phins to trade Jake Long before other teams figure out
he is not worth trading for a low 2nd rnd pk ....!!!!
sug |
Half of these daffodils that think he's a top 5 LT couldn't name the other 4.
They sit and watch game after game and can't see a difference in his play. |
Both of you are seriously clueless if you believe he isnt worth more than low 2nd... |
To the Jets or Bears he's wort their first two picks / pats or packers ... not so much ... @gotclues.info
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Fender
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| dolphinologist wrote: | | Fender wrote: | | dolphinologist wrote: | | SUG wrote: | For the Love of God somebody convince the Phins to trade Jake Long before other teams figure out
he is not worth trading for a low 2nd rnd pk ....!!!!
sug |
Half of these daffodils that think he's a top 5 LT couldn't name the other 4.
They sit and watch game after game and can't see a difference in his play. |
Both of you are seriously clueless if you believe he isnt worth more than low 2nd... |
To the Jets or Bears he's wort their first two picks / pats or packers ... not so much ... @gotclues.info |
See thats the thing about the free agency market - the Dolphins' trade partners for Jake Long arent limited to the teams that have no need for Jake Long....  |
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bpastermack
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:14 am Post subject: |
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These are the only teams that could afford to take on Jake Long's salary in THIS year through a trade without cutting guys to make room for him...
Jaguars: $28.7 million.
Chiefs: $26.6 million.
Eagles: $20.2 million.
Titans: $17.0 million.
Bengals: $15.2 million.
Buccaneers: $14.9 million.
Browns: $13.3 million.
Seahawks: $13.2 million.
You rarely see big name players traded at this point in the year because a lot of teams don't have 15 mil in cap space sitting around and won't want to purge some of their roster for a new player at this point in the season. Especially for a player who is obviously injured, and not playing 100% and will be a free agent in the offseason.
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phinmun
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| bpastermack wrote: |
You rarely see big name players traded at this point in the year because a lot of teams don't have 15 mil in cap space sitting around and won't want to purge some of their roster for a new player at this point in the season. Especially for a player who is obviously injured, and not playing 100% and will be a free agent in the offseason. |
But realistically, we'd get a conditional 3rd if he walked, right? I'm not that worried that no one's willing to give us a late-2nd for him right now. It's not that big a deal and we need his play because to my knowledge, we don't have a reliable backup AND we're trying to stay competitive during this rebuilding. I'm sure Ross supports them but, c'mon, we do need to stay competitive. |
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Deadeye
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| phinmun wrote: | | bpastermack wrote: |
You rarely see big name players traded at this point in the year because a lot of teams don't have 15 mil in cap space sitting around and won't want to purge some of their roster for a new player at this point in the season. Especially for a player who is obviously injured, and not playing 100% and will be a free agent in the offseason. |
But realistically, we'd get a conditional 3rd if he walked, right? I'm not that worried that no one's willing to give us a late-2nd for him right now. It's not that big a deal and we need his play because to my knowledge, we don't have a reliable backup AND we're trying to stay competitive during this rebuilding. I'm sure Ross supports them but, c'mon, we do need to stay competitive. |
I think you mean a compensitory 3rd. All compensitory picks fall after the round they are named for, thus if we got a compensitory 3rd it would come after pick #96 overall. Those are better than nothing, but not that great either.
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