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jrry32


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bpastermack wrote:
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DirtyDez wrote:
Clutch wrote:
Try going to the Rams/Cards/Bears/Jets forums and ask them about their current situation and what they would give to have Jake. .


At least a 1st & 3rd if he re-signs...


Really? I wouldn't offer anything unless he plans to re-sign and if he does, I wouldn't offer more than a 2nd because I'm assuming the money he'll want is excessive.


Sounds about right and I wouldn't trade him for less than a 2nd AND 3rd if I am Miami, so it's not going to happen.


I wasn't saying a 2nd and a 3rd, just a 2nd. Then again, I don't value the LT position anywhere nearly as highly as most people do.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dolphinologist wrote:
SUG wrote:
For the Love of God somebody convince the Phins to trade Jake Long before other teams figure out
he is not worth trading for a low 2nd rnd pk ....!!!!


sug


Half of these daffodils that think he's a top 5 LT couldn't name the other 4.
They sit and watch game after game and can't see a difference in his play.


Both of you are seriously clueless if you believe he isnt worth more than low 2nd...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's night and day for some people on both sides of the fence.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cddolphin wrote:
It's night and day for some people on both sides of the fence.
Through the 1st 3rd of 2012 he is not Anthony Munoz, but to suggest he is Vladimir Ducasse is quite amusing.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fender wrote:
dolphinologist wrote:
SUG wrote:
For the Love of God somebody convince the Phins to trade Jake Long before other teams figure out
he is not worth trading for a low 2nd rnd pk ....!!!!


sug


Half of these daffodils that think he's a top 5 LT couldn't name the other 4.
They sit and watch game after game and can't see a difference in his play.


Both of you are seriously clueless if you believe he isnt worth more than low 2nd...


To the Jets or Bears he's wort their first two picks / pats or packers ... not so much ... @gotclues.info
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dolphinologist wrote:
Fender wrote:
dolphinologist wrote:
SUG wrote:
For the Love of God somebody convince the Phins to trade Jake Long before other teams figure out
he is not worth trading for a low 2nd rnd pk ....!!!!


sug


Half of these daffodils that think he's a top 5 LT couldn't name the other 4.
They sit and watch game after game and can't see a difference in his play.


Both of you are seriously clueless if you believe he isnt worth more than low 2nd...


To the Jets or Bears he's wort their first two picks / pats or packers ... not so much ... @gotclues.info


See thats the thing about the free agency market - the Dolphins' trade partners for Jake Long arent limited to the teams that have no need for Jake Long.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are the only teams that could afford to take on Jake Long's salary in THIS year through a trade without cutting guys to make room for him...

Jaguars: $28.7 million.

Chiefs: $26.6 million.

Eagles: $20.2 million.

Titans: $17.0 million.

Bengals: $15.2 million.

Buccaneers: $14.9 million.

Browns: $13.3 million.

Seahawks: $13.2 million.

You rarely see big name players traded at this point in the year because a lot of teams don't have 15 mil in cap space sitting around and won't want to purge some of their roster for a new player at this point in the season. Especially for a player who is obviously injured, and not playing 100% and will be a free agent in the offseason.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bpastermack wrote:

You rarely see big name players traded at this point in the year because a lot of teams don't have 15 mil in cap space sitting around and won't want to purge some of their roster for a new player at this point in the season. Especially for a player who is obviously injured, and not playing 100% and will be a free agent in the offseason.


But realistically, we'd get a conditional 3rd if he walked, right? I'm not that worried that no one's willing to give us a late-2nd for him right now. It's not that big a deal and we need his play because to my knowledge, we don't have a reliable backup AND we're trying to stay competitive during this rebuilding. I'm sure Ross supports them but, c'mon, we do need to stay competitive.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phinmun wrote:
bpastermack wrote:

You rarely see big name players traded at this point in the year because a lot of teams don't have 15 mil in cap space sitting around and won't want to purge some of their roster for a new player at this point in the season. Especially for a player who is obviously injured, and not playing 100% and will be a free agent in the offseason.


But realistically, we'd get a conditional 3rd if he walked, right? I'm not that worried that no one's willing to give us a late-2nd for him right now. It's not that big a deal and we need his play because to my knowledge, we don't have a reliable backup AND we're trying to stay competitive during this rebuilding. I'm sure Ross supports them but, c'mon, we do need to stay competitive.
I think you mean a compensitory 3rd. All compensitory picks fall after the round they are named for, thus if we got a compensitory 3rd it would come after pick #96 overall. Those are better than nothing, but not that great either.
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