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Greg_Jennings
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I'm watching the show again. I might be drunk, but this is the best series of anything I've ever seen. So much depth, so much under the surface. Every character is defendable, and I mena EVERY one. Even people like Cersei and Joffrey. Every character makes sense.
And the SUBTEXT! oh the subtext. Eddard keeping Leanna's promise all these years. Cat harboring hatred for Ned all these years for Jon Snow, when he isn't even his son. So tragic.
I LOVE THIS STUFF!
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Greg_Jennings
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Melisandre, you sly, sly woman.
Welcome back Mance Rayder, proud Wildling badass. I only wish I could have known Rattleshirt was burning to death when I was reading it, would have been more enjoyable.
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cmstophe
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| samgurl775 wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | | As for Jaime, if I hadn't seen the show, I would probably have viewed his character in a much different light. He was certainly arrogant in the books, but once his hand was chopped off, he changed drastically. I do agree with book readers that the show crossed the line. Kinslaying, no matter how distant, just isn't part of Jaime's nature, and I feel they could have done something different with that. |
Do you remember in the show thread when I said Jaime would never kill his cousin, you said 'he just did'?  I'm just giving you a hard time Ruskie, I'm really glad you're enjoying the books. And yeah, Arya's "death" had the biggest impact on me as well, I just remember thinking "Did Arya seriously just die?!" |
lol, I knew Ruskie (and others) would agree about Jaime once they read the books.
The show definitely failed on that front. |
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THE DUKE
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| cmstophe wrote: | | samgurl775 wrote: | | RuskieTitan wrote: | | As for Jaime, if I hadn't seen the show, I would probably have viewed his character in a much different light. He was certainly arrogant in the books, but once his hand was chopped off, he changed drastically. I do agree with book readers that the show crossed the line. Kinslaying, no matter how distant, just isn't part of Jaime's nature, and I feel they could have done something different with that. |
Do you remember in the show thread when I said Jaime would never kill his cousin, you said 'he just did'? :wink: I'm just giving you a hard time Ruskie, I'm really glad you're enjoying the books. And yeah, Arya's "death" had the biggest impact on me as well, I just remember thinking "Did Arya seriously just die?!" |
lol, I knew Ruskie (and others) would agree about Jaime once they read the books.
The show definitely failed on that front. |
Yep, not just kind of out of character, but completely off. Even the cousin that got offed being chased by the brave companions who he couldn't stand he would have fought to protect. He is one of the few people in the series who actually do care about their honor.
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Packman Luke
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| Greg_Jennings wrote: | Melisandre, you sly, sly woman.
Welcome back Mance Rayder, proud Wildling badass. I only wish I could have known Rattleshirt was burning to death when I was reading it, would have been more enjoyable. |
I had the same thought. 
It was one twist I really didn't see coming. Made the strange emphasis on Mance's last moments (including him screaming, "I'm not the king!") make sense. Kind of a funny scene in a morbid sort of way.
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Greg_Jennings
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| Packman Luke wrote: | | Greg_Jennings wrote: | Melisandre, you sly, sly woman.
Welcome back Mance Rayder, proud Wildling badass. I only wish I could have known Rattleshirt was burning to death when I was reading it, would have been more enjoyable. |
I had the same thought.
It was one twist I really didn't see coming. Made the strange emphasis on Mance's last moments (including him screaming, "I'm not the king!") make sense. Kind of a funny scene in a morbid sort of way. |
I figured out it was an imposter right away. Mance wouldn't ever go out like that, and it was obvious. However, I didn't know it was rattleshirt burning, and I thought it was Jon himself who made the switch in order to save Mance from Melisandre's spells.
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cmstophe
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| Yeah I knew it wasn't Mance but I wasn't sure who it was or how the imposter had been pulled off. |
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NYGiantsman10
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Everyone here needs to be in the Game of Thrones thread during the Red Wedding episode. Its gonna be a disaster
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Greg_Jennings
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| NYGiantsman10 wrote: | | Everyone here needs to be in the Game of Thrones thread during the Red Wedding episode. Its gonna be a disaster |
oh, believe me, I will
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THE DUKE
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| Greg_Jennings wrote: | | NYGiantsman10 wrote: | | Everyone here needs to be in the Game of Thrones thread during the Red Wedding episode. Its gonna be a disaster |
oh, believe me, I will |
My response will be this about an hour after it airs,
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| NYGiantsman10 wrote: | | Everyone here needs to be in the Game of Thrones thread during the Red Wedding episode. Its gonna be a disaster |
Yeah, we need to invade
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Packman Luke
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I bet they change something big about it. Maybe Cat lives. I hope, hope, hope, hope that's not it though.
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| Packman Luke wrote: | | I bet they change something big about it. Maybe Cat lives. I hope, hope, hope, hope that's not it though. |
I know they've messed with a lot of things, including some character deaths, but do you think they'd actually go with something that big? Could you imagine if they just went off on their own and had Robb survive?
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THE DUKE
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| samgurl775 wrote: | | Packman Luke wrote: | | I bet they change something big about it. Maybe Cat lives. I hope, hope, hope, hope that's not it though. |
I know they've messed with a lot of things, including some character deaths, but do you think they'd actually go with something that big? Could you imagine if they just went off on their own and had Robb survive? :lol: |
This is the episode GRRM is directing, I doubt too much gets changed.
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Packman Luke
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Letting Robb Stark live would cause a riot, and I'd be right there flipping news vans with the rest of you. Fortunately, I very much doubt Robb survives. It seems fairly obvious that they have committed to making him as BA as possible to set this up. I guess I could see the stakes being high enough that they don't touch anything; I imagine the build up will tell us a lot.
I'm trying to think of moments in TV/book series that compare to The Red Wedding. I can think of moments where a good number of major characters die, but that always seems to be expected or at least less impactful.
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