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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice pick with Collins. I think he's going to be a good player.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Giants looking for upcoming pick or pick in the 100s.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Nice pick with Collins. I think he's going to be a good player.


He better be. 24 years old already. time is ticking.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Save The Hero wrote:
Nice pick with Collins. I think he's going to be a good player.


He better be. 24 years old already. time is ticking.


Didn't know about the age thing, but he looks ready to contribute from what I've seen.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Took me a while to decide what I wanted to do. So many players available that I like.
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Juniors are still available through Round 4, right?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Juniors are still available through Round 4, right?


Yep.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Here is the Carolina Panthers list of transaction

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Transactions:

Carolina Sends:
QB Jimmy Clausen
Pittsburgh Sends:
7th Round pick

Carolina gets:
CB Tracy Porter
RB Knowshon Mareno
Broncos 5th Round Pick
Denver gets:
DE Charles Johnson

Carolina Sends:
RB DeAngelo Williams
LB Thomas Davis
Detroit Sends:
DE Cliff Avril
4th Round Pick

Carolina Sends:
Broncos 5th Rd Pick (Acquired in the Charles Johnson trade)
New York (G) Sends:
WR Ramses Barden

Carolina Sends:
7th Rd Pick (Pittsburgh/Clausen)
New York (J) Sends:
RT Jason Smith


So basically the only change is that I (Carolina) have Detroit's 4th Round Pick
I have Detroits 4th round pick. When I look at the draft thread, I cant figure out what pick I am supposed to have

EDIT:: Looks like I'm out a 4th round pick since Detroit never had a 4th round pick to trade to me. What a clusterf this draft is turning into.

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[UMN] wrote:
[UMN] wrote:
hey, I should have DET's 4th (#105)

last year during the draft the Vikings traded their fifth-round pick (138th overall) to the Lions in exchange for a fourth-round pick in 2013.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Lions_acquire_two_draft_picks_from_Vikings_for_4thround_pick_in_2013042812
You're all set.

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[105] Minnesota[via DET] 4p-5p

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
TommyC376 wrote:
TommyC376 wrote:
Here is the Carolina Panthers list of transaction

Quote:
Transactions:

Carolina Sends:
QB Jimmy Clausen
Pittsburgh Sends:
7th Round pick

Carolina gets:
CB Tracy Porter
RB Knowshon Mareno
Broncos 5th Round Pick
Denver gets:
DE Charles Johnson

Carolina Sends:
RB DeAngelo Williams
LB Thomas Davis
Detroit Sends:
DE Cliff Avril
4th Round Pick

Carolina Sends:
Broncos 5th Rd Pick (Acquired in the Charles Johnson trade)
New York (G) Sends:
WR Ramses Barden

Carolina Sends:
7th Rd Pick (Pittsburgh/Clausen)
New York (J) Sends:
RT Jason Smith


So basically the only change is that I (Carolina) have Detroit's 4th Round Pick
I have Detroits 4th round pick. When I look at the draft thread, I cant figure out what pick I am supposed to have

EDIT:: Looks like I'm out a 4th round pick since Detroit never had a 4th round pick to trade to me. What a clusterf this draft is turning into.

TommyC376 wrote:
[UMN] wrote:
[UMN] wrote:
hey, I should have DET's 4th (#105)

last year during the draft the Vikings traded their fifth-round pick (138th overall) to the Lions in exchange for a fourth-round pick in 2013.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Lions_acquire_two_draft_picks_from_Vikings_for_4thround_pick_in_2013042812
You're all set.

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[105] Minnesota[via DET] 4p-5p


Frankly, I can't blame the draft or the people running it. As a GM, you need to keep track of your picks and your transactions. And I'm not speaking to you, Tommy, this isn't your mess up. But before I made any moves, I went and checked out the trades that effected the 2013 NFL Draft to make sure I knew what picks the Rams had and didn't have. And whenever I made a trade, I made sure to note what pick was traded on my depth chart and whose pick it was(for example Rams 1st instead of Redskins 1st).

If you don't, things get quite confusing.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
jrry32 wrote:
Frankly, I can't blame the draft or the people running it. As a GM, you need to keep track of your picks and your transactions. And I'm not speaking to you, Tommy, this isn't your mess up. But before I made any moves, I went and checked out the trades that effected the 2013 NFL Draft to make sure I knew what picks the Rams had and didn't have. And whenever I made a trade, I made sure to note what pick was traded on my depth chart and whose pick it was(for example Rams 1st instead of Redskins 1st).

If you don't, things get quite confusing.
Agreed. I did the same thing. Sucks because the draft is so deep, now I basically have to just live with the fact I traded DeAngelo Williams/Thomas Davis for Cliff Avril.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
TommyC376 wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Frankly, I can't blame the draft or the people running it. As a GM, you need to keep track of your picks and your transactions. And I'm not speaking to you, Tommy, this isn't your mess up. But before I made any moves, I went and checked out the trades that effected the 2013 NFL Draft to make sure I knew what picks the Rams had and didn't have. And whenever I made a trade, I made sure to note what pick was traded on my depth chart and whose pick it was(for example Rams 1st instead of Redskins 1st).

If you don't, things get quite confusing.
Agreed. I did the same thing. Sucks because the draft is so deep, now I basically have to just live with the fact I traded DeAngelo Williams/Thomas Davis for Cliff Avril.

Evil or Very Mad


I think either 1) you should have the option to void the trade or 2) make an exception and award you a 2014 3rd round pick (I know it doesn't affect this mock, really, but it's additional compensation equal to a 4th)
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Adrenaline_Flux wrote:
TommyC376 wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
Frankly, I can't blame the draft or the people running it. As a GM, you need to keep track of your picks and your transactions. And I'm not speaking to you, Tommy, this isn't your mess up. But before I made any moves, I went and checked out the trades that effected the 2013 NFL Draft to make sure I knew what picks the Rams had and didn't have. And whenever I made a trade, I made sure to note what pick was traded on my depth chart and whose pick it was(for example Rams 1st instead of Redskins 1st).

If you don't, things get quite confusing.
Agreed. I did the same thing. Sucks because the draft is so deep, now I basically have to just live with the fact I traded DeAngelo Williams/Thomas Davis for Cliff Avril.

Evil or Very Mad


I think either 1) you should have the option to void the trade or 2) make an exception and award you a 2014 3rd round pick (I know it doesn't affect this mock, really, but it's additional compensation equal to a 4th)
I dont want to void the trade because I still want Cliff Avril. I'll live with it. I just hope in the future the GMs look to see what pics they have and dont have.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Browns are shopping their 5th and 6th round picks for a CB or TE
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Browns Comment on Early Stages of Draft

What do you have to say about the first three picks?

DE Damontre Moore
We felt he was the best pass rusher on the board and best DE in the draft. Our plan is for Moore to start right away at the RE spot and help provide more of a pass rush and presence in the backfield opposite Jabaal Sheard. We feel Moore is a big piece to an already good defense becoming elite.

FS Bacarri Rambo
We were surprised to see the number of safteys left on the board in the third round with Rambo, Jefferson, Williams, McDonald, and Lester. We decided to go with Rambo because, well, we thought he was the best player when he was on the field. He had some run-ins earlier but we believe he is past those and his talent will shine. Rambo gives us a ball-hawk i our defensive backfield who can make an impact play at anytime.

DE Brandon Jenkins
Brandon was a guy we were watching the whole third round. Jenkins has 1st or 2nd round talent but not playing this year hurt his draft stock. In taking Jenkins it gives us another added pass rusher to get to the quarterdeck and gives us depth at the RE spot. We are ecstatic to add Moore and Jenkins to the front seven.

What should we be looking for as we continue into the later rounds?
Value, we want to add value picks to our roster. But we are also considering moving our picks to other teams for value players. We want to put winners on our team and players then can make an impact on the field.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Really good pick by WH. Kinda surprised he fell this far, even though its the nature of mocks.
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