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tonyto3690


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Taking away the positives: Brandon Lloyd Reply with quote

Guy was a complete monster tonight. Moved the chains, GOT SOME YAC, and stretched the field and won downfield.

With Welker, Hernandez, Gronk and Lloyd playing at that level, this offense is going to be impossible to stop if we get that kind of play out of him without throwing to him 20 times a gam.
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Drew Brees IS the most accurate qb ever

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a huge test for him. If you blanket Welker and Hernandez/Gronk, can Lloyd win the one on one? He clearly showed us that he can come through if needed.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I'm excited about.

2009 we saw if you stopped Welker/Moss we were cooked
2010 we saw if you just flooded the middle and put 8 in the box with zone we were cooked
2011 we saw that without Gronk if you took Welker/Hernandez out we were cooked
2012 you double Welker/Gronk and we have Hernandez/Lloyd who can both win anywhere on the field in one on one coverage.

It's just a shame Edelman/Gronk/Hernandez had never gotten a chance to really work together while healthy. This offense is already special, but with 5 quality receivers we could have been something otherworldly.


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Think of it this way.

Take Fells/Homanamuniwawawaeeoo/Branch and replace all their production and snaps with Gornkowski. I think they did a pretty decent job for us but lets be honest. They were in there with the notion "don't lose the game for us". Gronkowski is a whole other animal and wins games for us by himself.
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Drew Brees IS the most accurate qb ever

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hes been better but he does continue to drop an easy pass at least once a game.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roachkiller wrote:
Hes been better but he does continue to drop an easy pass at least once a game.


Yes, he had a fugggg drop on that 3 and out towards the end. Just like the bills game... Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point in the season he's dropped less balls than Welker or Hernandez.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roachkiller wrote:
Hes been better but he does continue to drop an easy pass at least once a game.


Seems like Gronkowski, Hernandez and Welker have all had that problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
roachkiller wrote:
Hes been better but he does continue to drop an easy pass at least once a game.


Seems like Gronkowski, Hernandez and Welker have all had that problem.


Yeah I have never seen as many drops by a Patriots teams, at least not a good Patriots team.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jofos wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
roachkiller wrote:
Hes been better but he does continue to drop an easy pass at least once a game.


Seems like Gronkowski, Hernandez and Welker have all had that problem.


Yeah I have never seen as many drops by a Patriots teams, at least not a good Patriots team.


I suspect guys usually have to get acclimated a bit to catching Brady's throws over the middle. He throws those HARD.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brandon Lloyd has really become a good weapon and deep threat that eats one on one coverage. Not only that, but he seems to read different coverages really really well... The guy knows how to get open..
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24isthelaw wrote:
jofos wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
roachkiller wrote:
Hes been better but he does continue to drop an easy pass at least once a game.


Seems like Gronkowski, Hernandez and Welker have all had that problem.


Yeah I have never seen as many drops by a Patriots teams, at least not a good Patriots team.


I suspect guys usually have to get acclimated a bit to catching Brady's throws over the middle. He throws those HARD.


Hernandez, Gronkowski and Welker should all be used to it by now though.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^That doesn't make it much easier. Lloyd has dropped the easiest passes, but WW has to have the most drops.

As players get older, it takes more out of them to do the same things physically & they cannot concentrate n that catch as well. Seems like WW problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NextBigThing wrote:
^That doesn't make it much easier. Lloyd has dropped the easiest passes, but WW has to have the most drops.

As players get older, it takes more out of them to do the same things physically & they cannot concentrate n that catch as well. Seems like WW problem.


Seems like every year there's a new excuse for Welker.

How about he just doesn't have great hands? They're not bad, but other than in 2007, he has never been the most sure handed guy.

It's also due to the high volume of balls thrown his way but he definitely seems to have had a tendency to let the ball come into his body/face more than he used to. Could just be that his drops tend to come at the most inopportune times (probably due to him being the go-to guy in big situations) so I'm remembering those more than his others.

Lloyd just seems to have balls go through his hands and Hernandez seems to have butter fingers/bad focus (trying to run before he has the ball securely).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great group of guys, their hands will become solid by playoff time. I'm almost certain of it. Something about this season feel good to me this time around.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canton wrote:
Great group of guys, their hands will become solid by playoff time. I'm almost certain of it. Something about this season feel good to me this time around.


Their hands will magically improve as the weather worsens and the pressure builds?

Hmm.....dunno about that.
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