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Right now it's all speculation but with the Rams firing his son, I think the chances he's our DC next year are slim and none. Just gotta hope they hire the right guy for the DC job. Not promote from within.


You must not know how Jeff Fisher works.


I do. And I hope he learned from his past on this one. Will be very mad if Cecil or McGinnis are our DC next year.


You must not know how Jeff Fisher learns.


I do. Typically, it gets stuck in his stache for a few years then eventually gets through. I'm hopeful that the Cecil disaster got through.


...actually, the correct answer was flash cards. Flash cards. Very Happy


Are they mustache themed flash cards?
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Gregg Williams has been terrible for years, so this is a good move.

Eh. 2010 he had a pretty great year, the Saints were getting tons of pressure and forcing tons of turnovers. I'm not going to sit here and blame him for the Saints having absolutely no talent.
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He is probably done for in the NFL.


I doubt he's done in the NFL, he's just too good of a coordinator to be done in the NFL. He'll probably take a positional coach or collegiate position and come back to the NFL in 3-4 years.
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He is probably done for in the NFL.


I doubt he's done in the NFL, he's just too good of a coordinator to be done in the NFL. He'll probably take a positional coach or collegiate position and come back to the NFL in 3-4 years.
He's pretty unhireable right now. But everyone loves a good comeback story, so I don't know.
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he'll be back...sooner then most of you think. he is not a great defensive coordinator, but he is a big name, so he will find work eventually.
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He is probably done for in the NFL.


I Think this is a given
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he'll be back...sooner then most of you think. he is not a great defensive coordinator, but he is a big name, so he will find work eventually.
He's not allowed back indefinitely. Now maybe 2 or 3 years down the line he might have been able to rehab his rep enough to get back, but you can't just let him back in right now.
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he'll be back...sooner then most of you think. he is not a great defensive coordinator, but he is a big name, so he will find work eventually.
He's not allowed back indefinitely. Now maybe 2 or 3 years down the line he might have been able to rehab his rep enough to get back, but you can't just let him back in right now.


I expect him to be reinstated either this year or next year. And I think he will find work not long after that happens.
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Eh. 2010 he had a pretty great year, the Saints were getting tons of pressure and forcing tons of turnovers. I'm not going to sit here and blame him for the Saints having absolutely no talent.


They were actually ranked 20th in forced turnovers in 2010. Not to mention, that Saints team played almost no good offenses in 2010. Seriously look at that schedule. Outside of Dallas, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh it's a who's who of the worst offenses in the league including that awful Carolina team in 2010 with Jimmy Clausen and Matt Moore as the Quarterbacks. They also sucked badly in the Playoffs. The Saints in 2010 really weren't a good defense.
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Eh. 2010 he had a pretty great year, the Saints were getting tons of pressure and forcing tons of turnovers. I'm not going to sit here and blame him for the Saints having absolutely no talent.


They were actually ranked 20th in forced turnovers in 2010. Not to mention, that Saints team played almost no good offenses in 2010. Seriously look at that schedule. Outside of Dallas, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh it's a who's who of the worst offenses in the league including that awful Carolina team in 2010 with Jimmy Clausen and Matt Moore as the Quarterbacks. They also sucked badly in the Playoffs. The Saints in 2010 really weren't a good defense.

I meant 09-10, the year they won the Super Bowl. They forced a ton of turnovers and this defense has zero talent, no coordinator would be able to them look great. People saying Gregg Williams is a bad coordinator don't know what they're talking about. Put him on a team with some talent and he builds a top 10 defense, easy.
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Williams is pretty much blacklisted now, not surprising.
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Shouldn't get hired solely for his ability as a DC. You won't be succesful if all you do is gamble on blitzing every down.
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Shouldn't get hired solely for his ability as a DC. You won't be succesful if all you do is gamble on blitzing every down.

This is a common misconception. Look at the defenses he built before the Saints, they didn't blitz as much, he had to blitz every down with the Saints because we could barely get pressure sending 4 or even 5 rushers. You know it's bad when your SS leads the team in sacks.
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