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Ether
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| seriously is Chud a complete void of personality again? I don't remember really any qualities he had that would make him a good head coach. |
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sdrawkcab321
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | I expect rob Ryan as DC if we're going with 3-4 |
Why? Have they ever worked together? And Rob hardly did wonders here last time. |
No they haven't but if we're going 3-4 he is the best available |
Hardly. His defenses have been spectacularly mediocre, both in Cleveland and in Dallas. Fun guy, full of passion, but not a great DC.
If we are going for a re-treat at DC, I'd rather take Romeo back.-- which FWIW would be a possibility I suppose given that Romeo gave Rob his first OC job here right? |
I'd love that but I heard Romeo wants to retire. It's just a feeling I have about rob Ryan. He seems to be respected around the league when they talked about him being fired from dallas |
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elfman55
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Yes!!! I like this hire of Chud. He will grow into this job, but the 1st couple of years he will get some help. Keep Jauron as DC, Turner as OC would be great. This is the new FO's man so they will be give him time. At this time this may not look like the sexest pick but in 5 yrs IMO will be looked at a very good move.
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fsubrowns9510
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| Ether wrote: | | seriously is Chud a complete void of personality again? I don't remember really any qualities he had that would make him a good head coach. |
Was just thinking about that...
OCs are tough to gauge being upstairs
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bungleodeon
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| sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | I expect rob Ryan as DC if we're going with 3-4 |
Why? Have they ever worked together? And Rob hardly did wonders here last time. |
No they haven't but if we're going 3-4 he is the best available |
Hardly. His defenses have been spectacularly mediocre, both in Cleveland and in Dallas. Fun guy, full of passion, but not a great DC.
If we are going for a re-treat at DC, I'd rather take Romeo back.-- which FWIW would be a possibility I suppose given that Romeo gave Rob his first OC job here right? |
I'd love that but I heard Romeo wants to retire. It's just a feeling I have about rob Ryan. He seems to be respected around the league when they talked about him being fired from dallas |
I thought Ryan did a great job his last year in Cleveland given how little talent we had on defense.
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Estonianzulu
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| fsubrowns9510 wrote: | | Ether wrote: | | seriously is Chud a complete void of personality again? I don't remember really any qualities he had that would make him a good head coach. |
Was just thinking about that...
OCs are tough to gauge being upstairs |
I remember him being a hot topic for a HC job back in 2007 before Anderson went all Anderson
| bungleodeon wrote: | | I thought Ryan did a great job his last year in Cleveland given how little talent we had on defense. |
He had some good games. But overwhelmingly our defense was atrocious. And that Dallas team is way too talented to be as bad as it was.
I want us to keep the 4-3, so hopefully this will be moot. I mean, its all speculation at this point. Chud has always been an OC and spent time with both defenses.
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fsubrowns9510
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| bungleodeon wrote: | | sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | Estonianzulu wrote: | | sdrawkcab321 wrote: | | I expect rob Ryan as DC if we're going with 3-4 |
Why? Have they ever worked together? And Rob hardly did wonders here last time. |
No they haven't but if we're going 3-4 he is the best available |
Hardly. His defenses have been spectacularly mediocre, both in Cleveland and in Dallas. Fun guy, full of passion, but not a great DC.
If we are going for a re-treat at DC, I'd rather take Romeo back.-- which FWIW would be a possibility I suppose given that Romeo gave Rob his first OC job here right? |
I'd love that but I heard Romeo wants to retire. It's just a feeling I have about rob Ryan. He seems to be respected around the league when they talked about him being fired from dallas |
I thought Ryan did a great job his last year in Cleveland given how little talent we had on defense. |
He has still never made the playoffs...
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bungleodeon
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He has still never made the playoffs... |
Chud never made the playoffs as a coordinator and we just named him HC.
Plus, that fact really means nothing in reference to me saying I thought he did a good job in his last year in Cleveland.
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fsubrowns9510
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | fsubrowns9510 wrote: | | Ether wrote: | | seriously is Chud a complete void of personality again? I don't remember really any qualities he had that would make him a good head coach. |
Was just thinking about that...
OCs are tough to gauge being upstairs |
I remember him being a hot topic for a HC job back in 2007 before Anderson went all Anderson |
Yep. He was Savages HC in waiting til they all got booted.
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| fsubrowns9510 wrote: | Better news??
I beat Billy Spikes to the punch! |
Congrats on the scoop!!!
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bungleodeon
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| Estonianzulu wrote: | | fsubrowns9510 wrote: | | Ether wrote: | | seriously is Chud a complete void of personality again? I don't remember really any qualities he had that would make him a good head coach. |
Was just thinking about that...
OCs are tough to gauge being upstairs |
I remember him being a hot topic for a HC job back in 2007 before Anderson went all Anderson
| bungleodeon wrote: | | I thought Ryan did a great job his last year in Cleveland given how little talent we had on defense. |
He had some good games. But overwhelmingly our defense was atrocious. And that Dallas team is way too talented to be as bad as it was.
I want us to keep the 4-3, so hopefully this will be moot. I mean, its all speculation at this point. Chud has always been an OC and spent time with both defenses. |
atrocious seems extremely harsh for the 13th ppg D in the NFL.
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I was iffy on Chud, but LOVE the Turner hire if true.
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fsubrowns9510
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Just realized that Chud was not only the TE coach in San Diego but also the Assistant HC. He must be pretty close to Norv
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bungleodeon
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to take the Ryan point a step further, in Ryan's second year as DC, with pretty limited talent, our D was better than Jauron's D (in PPG and YPG) in his second year, yet people really want us to keep him.
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Does anyone really think that Colt McCoy is in the plans now that Chud's back?
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