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JohnnyV
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Ray's no dummy. The guy knows the only shot he's got is if he can bring aboard a strong OC. Someone who's had success with QBs.
Best part about Norv is that he's not getting a head job maybe ever again.
He'd be ours...all ours.... 
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apollo14000
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| AZPSquared wrote: | | If Turner is the OC under Horton, then I'm torn between him and McCoy. I also wanna know whats going on with Juan Castillo, maybe Keim wants him. |
Juan Castillo is a very well respected OL coach. Honestly, it doesn't matter as much if he hasn't worked with Horton or whoever our next HC is, he's very well respected around the league so I'm glad we're at least kicking the tires. |
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stchamp98
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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From Jay Gruden after his interview today speaking about the quarterback position:
"There are a lot of teams looking for quarterbacks like Tom Brady,” Gruden said. “There’s not a lot of them out there. You have to try and develop someone you have in-house or try and find a top-notch guy. If you don’t have that guy, you have to develop the skill set of the guys you have. That’s the most difficult thing to do – find out the skill set the quarterbacks here have and find out which one you are going to go with, and get people around him that can do great things also.
“One thing people have to understand is that it’s not always the quarterback. There are other issues when an offense fails. There are a lot of things you have to address when your offense sputters, and they have to be addressed quickly.”
http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/article-2/QB-Work-Jay-Grudens-Strength/42be12bc-6de9-452e-a185-3a4b2838b843
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AZPSquared
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm hoping Denver loses saturday so we can speed up the process. I think its really down to Horton (if he gets Norv) or McCoy. |
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stchamp98
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LOL, John Clayton.
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AZPSquared
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| Another reason to go with McCoy: He made Jake Delhomme. After McCoy left, Delhomme's career took a sharp turn for the worst. Delhomme's best years were 2004-2008 coincidently, McCoy was the QB's coach from 2004-2008 |
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JohnnyV
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| AZPSquared wrote: | http://arizonasports.com/40/1600956/ESPN-NFL-insider-Mike-McCoy-the-leader-in-the-clubhouse-for-Cardinals-job
John Clayton sees McCoy as the lead candidate. Fingers crossed Ravens pull out the upset |
When did Mike McCoy, who btw has Peyton Manning and was unimpressive with Carolina, suddenly become Jim Harbaugh.
Just hire Horton already...
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Boise&cards Fan
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I be disappointed if McCoy gets the job. May as while fire Horton now as he wont be here longer then 1 more year.
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AZPSquared
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| JohnnyV wrote: | | AZPSquared wrote: | http://arizonasports.com/40/1600956/ESPN-NFL-insider-Mike-McCoy-the-leader-in-the-clubhouse-for-Cardinals-job
John Clayton sees McCoy as the lead candidate. Fingers crossed Ravens pull out the upset |
When did Mike McCoy, who btw has Peyton Manning and was unimpressive with Carolina, suddenly become Jim Harbaugh.
Just hire Horton already... |
how was McCoy unimpressive with Carolina??? Did you see what he did with Jake Delhomme. Like i said before, Delhommes best seasons were 2004-2008. Mike McCoy was QB coach from 2004-2008. When McCoy left, Delhomme was terrible. |
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stchamp98
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Delhomme was in the league 5 years before he went to Carolina and he helped take the Panthers to the Super Bowl in 2003...the year before McCoy got there.
So, no.
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stchamp98
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John Clayton the last 2 weeks:
"I don't think Buffalo's going to fire Chan Gailey"
After Buffalo fired Cha Gailey:
:Buffalo is likely to land someone from Arizona"
Buffalo hired Syracuse head coach Doug Marrone.
There's a reason no news is ever broken from John Clayton. It's because he's not in the know.
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AZPSquared
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| stchamp98 wrote: | Delhomme was in the league 5 years before he went to Carolina and he helped take the Panthers to the Super Bowl in 2003...the year before McCoy got there.
So, no. |
Yeah but he barely played before 2003. His play took off starting in 2004. He was decent in 2003 but he got much better under McCoy, he was even a pro bowler in 2005. |
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stchamp98
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| AZPSquared wrote: | | stchamp98 wrote: | Delhomme was in the league 5 years before he went to Carolina and he helped take the Panthers to the Super Bowl in 2003...the year before McCoy got there.
So, no. |
Yeah but he barely played before 2003. His play took off starting in 2004. He was decent in 2003 but he got much better under McCoy, he was even a pro bowler in 2005. |
Matt Hasselbeck and Kurt Warner both spent years and years on the bench, who cares? It's called developmental time. Delhomme learned and studied the league for 5 years, then went to Carolina and went to the Super Bowl in year 6. McCoy got him in year 7 and had him put 1 one nice season in a year he choked away the playoffs (I think we all recall it well). That's fact.
Adrian Wilson was one of the worst safeties in the league in 2010 and went to the Pro Bowl. That's a worthless accreditation.
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AZPSquared
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| stchamp98 wrote: | | AZPSquared wrote: | | stchamp98 wrote: | Delhomme was in the league 5 years before he went to Carolina and he helped take the Panthers to the Super Bowl in 2003...the year before McCoy got there.
So, no. |
Yeah but he barely played before 2003. His play took off starting in 2004. He was decent in 2003 but he got much better under McCoy, he was even a pro bowler in 2005. |
Matt Hasselbeck and Kurt Warner both spent years and years on the bench, who cares? It's called developmental time. Delhomme learned and studied the league for 5 years, then went to Carolina and went to the Super Bowl in year 6. McCoy got him in year 7 and had him put 1 one nice season in a year he choked away the playoffs (I think we all recall it well). That's fact.
Adrian Wilson was one of the worst safeties in the league in 2010 and went to the Pro Bowl. That's a worthless accreditation. |
So your saying McCoy had nothing to do with Delhomme improvement and that its just a coincidence that when McCoy left Delhomme's career pretty much ended |
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