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Billy Spikes
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 Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject: Junior Seau's family is suing the NFL |
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| Quote: | The family of Junior Seau has sued the NFL, claiming the former linebacker's suicide was the result of brain disease caused by violent hits he sustained while playing football.
The wrongful death lawsuit, filed Wednesday in California Superior Court in San Diego, blames the NFL for its "acts or omissions" that hid the dangers of repetitive blows to the head. It says Seau developed chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) from those hits, and accuses the NFL of deliberately ignoring and concealing evidence of the risks associated with traumatic brain injuries.
Seau died at age 43 of a self-inflicted gunshot in May. He was diagnosed with CTE, based on posthumous tests, earlier this month. |
http://pro32.ap.org/content/seaus-family-sues-nfl-over-brain-injuries
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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And so it begins...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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I hate this crap. The players CHOOSE to play in this league. Whatever happens on the field, is a direct cause stemming from THEIR decision of playing in the league. They could have left at anytime. Completely ridiculous and I am so sick of hearing about people blaming the NFL for their injuries and sicknesses when they choose that career path.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't this be lumped into the current suit by the NFLPA? Or at least be related?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: coward. |
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Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad"
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
How can you compare crashing an unsafe car to committing suicide? One is clearly intentional.
Also, there is VERY LITTLE legal precedent for assigning blame or responsibility for suicide to another party.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| sp6488 wrote: | | eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
How can you compare crashing an unsafe car to committing suicide? One is clearly intentional.
Also, there is VERY LITTLE legal precedent for assigning blame or responsibility for suicide to another party. |
Is it? Intent, legally speaking, involves having the mental capacity to make a choice, Seau may not have had the mental capacity to do so, as is evidenced by the Tao found on his brain.
His mental health clearly played in his suicide, and his mental health clearly was affected by his play in the NFL. And the accusation is that the NFL had evidence of the damage of concussions but w/h that information.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
And thats all people do in todays society.
Its always easier to blame someone else for things that go wrong, especially if you can get some money out of it... |
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eagles101
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| StLunatic88 wrote: | | eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
And thats all people do in todays society.
Its always easier to blame someone else for things that go wrong, especially if you can get some money out of it... |
right in todays society.....and by today i assume you mean the beginning of time....because assigning blame to people who willfully hide or ignore danger to there employees, customers, or people in general has happened since the beginning of written history.
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eagles101
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | sp6488 wrote: | | eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
How can you compare crashing an unsafe car to committing suicide? One is clearly intentional.
Also, there is VERY LITTLE legal precedent for assigning blame or responsibility for suicide to another party. |
Is it? Intent, legally speaking, involves having the mental capacity to make a choice, Seau may not have had the mental capacity to do so, as is evidenced by the Tao found on his brain.
His mental health clearly played in his suicide, and his mental health clearly was affected by his play in the NFL. And the accusation is that the NFL had evidence of the damage of concussions but w/h that information. |
excatly....it may be a legit case....if anything comes of it there will be massive safety rules put into affect.
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SHONUFF
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: coward |
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Since Jr decided to take the cowardly way out, we'll never know about his mental capacity, will we.. The only thing we know about his mental state is that he was a selfish person wiling to leave his children without a father...
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sp6488
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| Superman(DH23) wrote: | | sp6488 wrote: | | eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
How can you compare crashing an unsafe car to committing suicide? One is clearly intentional.
Also, there is VERY LITTLE legal precedent for assigning blame or responsibility for suicide to another party. |
Is it? Intent, legally speaking, involves having the mental capacity to make a choice, Seau may not have had the mental capacity to do so, as is evidenced by the Tao found on his brain.
His mental health clearly played in his suicide, and his mental health clearly was affected by his play in the NFL. And the accusation is that the NFL had evidence of the damage of concussions but w/h that information. |
Bold point one: to avoid bogged down in the word "intent," let's look at it this way. There is not a direct connection in terms of motive between driving an unsafe car and dying. You drove the car to get from point A to point B, not to die. With Seau shooting himself, he pointed a gun at himself and pulled the trigger in order to kill himself. They are not analogous situations.
Bold point two: what proves this? How can you say "clearly?" There is still a ton of questions regarding the actual effects of CTE and to assign responsibility to another party for his suicide will take A LOT. Keep in mind that he was apparently having financial difficulties as well. I'm not trying to deny that CTE can have any long term effects, but to claim that we know for a fact that it is the cause here is absurd and is the same type of thinking that has lead to countless "scientific facts" throughout human history.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
Well in any of your scenarios, why should there be a lawsuit anyways?
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eagles101
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: coward. |
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| GeneralTso wrote: | | eagles101 wrote: | | SHONUFF wrote: | | Suing the NFL, because he decided to play a sport with high speed collisions and in the end took the cowardly way out...They should blame Jr for him not being around anymore, not the NFL... |
you could say that about anything then. you work at a factor that people die in, "well he should have quit he new the factor was dangerous." crash a car and die "he should have bought a new one, he knew the safety rating was bad" |
Well in any of your scenarios, why should there be a lawsuit anyways? |
there has been a lot of lawsuits for unsafe working conditions and unsafe cars.....like a lot.....sooo
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