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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-ALL-DAY wrote:
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you mean the 150 yds in the game??

My point is that if viniteri misses these FG's is he this highly regarded? no and im not playing the IF game, but its not like he went our and threw for 300+ yards and threw a game winning td either


You essentially did play the IF game, but he still deserves props for taking his team all the way down to FG range. Now, I do agree that Super Bowl it was more of the defense than what he did. For their 2nd Super Bowl, he had over 300+ yards and 3 TDs. You have to give him full props for that performance and again leading his team all the way down to FG range.

By the way, what was the point of saying the 150 yards in the game? You do realize we won our first Super Bowl with Montana throwing for about the same amount of yards right? So does that not count either?


correct Montana did have small stat yardage in his first SB. However what i am saying is that Montana was 4-0 and had two blow out sb wins, and two game winning td drive games. thats waaaayyy out of bradys league. Put him in elways league where he was 2-3 and brady is 3-2
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I certainly rank Montana ahead, but regular season+postseason success, Brady is in his level. Better? No, but how is he not in his league? Losing in the Super Bowl is still much better than losing in the WC or Divisional round. Brady has made five SB appearances which is remarkable. Had he won one of the Giants games, than he'd have a better case for being better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forum Member Vanilla_Ice posted this link in the other thread. It is pretty incredible how close they are.

http://voices.yahoo.com/brady-breaks-montanas-record-but-whos-better-11974583.html?cat=14
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

y2lamanaki wrote:
Forum Member Vanilla_Ice posted this link in the other thread. It is pretty incredible how close they are.

http://voices.yahoo.com/brady-breaks-montanas-record-but-whos-better-11974583.html?cat=14


Exactly, Brady is at least in his class even though most will pick Montana as the better QB.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

y2lamanaki wrote:
Forum Member Vanilla_Ice posted this link in the other thread. It is pretty incredible how close they are.

http://voices.yahoo.com/brady-breaks-montanas-record-but-whos-better-11974583.html?cat=14



Sorry y2, forgot about this thread. And yeah the two are so close it's crazy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanilla_Ice wrote:
y2lamanaki wrote:
Forum Member Vanilla_Ice posted this link in the other thread. It is pretty incredible how close they are.

http://voices.yahoo.com/brady-breaks-montanas-record-but-whos-better-11974583.html?cat=14



Sorry y2, forgot about this thread. And yeah the two are so close it's crazy.


No need to apologize - was just a simple mistake and easily fixed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brady and Montana are both great qb's, no question. Arguably the two greatest ever. Comparing the two, for me, ends with Super Bowls (as has been mentioned already). Brady, has always lead the offense to a game winning field goal, where as if joe didn't destroy the other team (niners 55, broncos 10), he is throwing a game winning td to seal the victory (John Taylor SB 23).

Greatness, to me, is defined by what you do in the biggest, most important moments. While brady gave his team a CHANCE to win (as mentioned by someone), Montana actually WON the game, more often than not. Not to mention 4-0 vs 3-5.

Passing stats are a wash, because they are different eras, imo.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His defense sucks. The Lb's cant cover and the secondary is poor except for McCourty. He was better when he didn't have to be the main guy.
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