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NJniners


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If just picking from the 49ers:

Colin Kaepernick
Vernon Davis
Michael Crabtree
Frank Gore
Patrick Willis
NaVarro Bowman
Aldon Smith
Joe Staley

From all teams:

Aaron Rodgers
Vernon Davis
Patrick Willis
NaVarro Bowman
Frank Gore
JJ Watt
Calvin Johnson
Adrian Peterson
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gore? Really? I love the man but he's only got 2 or 3 years left in the tank, maybe not even that long as a feature back.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QB-Aaron Rodgers

RB-Lesean McCoy * I would pick A.P, but I do what I want, but he just flits my playstyle more*

WR-Calvin Johnson
LT-Joe Thomas

CB-Richard Sherman
OLB-Aldon Smith
OLB-Von Miller
DE-JJ Watt
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QB - Joe Flacco
WR- Calvin Johnson
OT - Joe Thomas
OT - David Stewart
C - Nick Mangold

DE/OLB - Aldon Smith
DE - JJ Watt
CB - Patrick Peterson
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offense

QB Aaron Rodgers
WR Calvin Johnson
OT Joe Thomas
C Mike Pouncey

Defense 3-4

DE JJ Watt
OLB Aldon Smith
S Eric Weddle
CB Patrick Peterson
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

El ramster wrote:
Clay is not a franchise player. If you want havok get Chris Long or Cam Wake. Those guys wreck stuff up.


you going to bat for Long is no different than a Packer fan going to bat for CM3

its a wash with talent as far as I'm concerned... but if were going on production/stats alone Clay has been better (not arguable)

now Mr. Wake 'right now' is certainly a stud (but long & clay are younger & have more years of prime play left)

either way, you are wrong... & also right...but don't get it twisted Cool
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1. Aaron Rodgers - You start and end any championship run with a great QB, and Aaron is a great QB.

2. Calvin Johnson - Every QB needs targets to throw to, so why not the best WR in the game?

3. Jimmy Graham - Offenses need some sort of diversity, throwing it up to CJ every down ain't gonna win games. Get some size on the team with Graham, and let defenses figure out how to defend CJ and Graham in the RZ.

4. Ryan Clady - Protect the backside at any and all costs, and Clady is the best of the bunch when asked to do that.

5. Chris Myers - Homer pick, but his smarts in the trenches helps the entire unit out. He makes the line calls, studies as much film as the QB does leading up to the game, and anchors both the run and pass blocking assignments. I will have less than stellar players at both G spots and RT, so might as well have a guy who can position said players in the best place to give a QB time, or give a RB a hole to run through.

6. JJ Watt - No homer pick here. Pass rush starts at the line, and nobody does it better than Watt.

7. Patrick Willis - I'll need a defender who can play sideline to sideline, can exploit a hole and make plays in the backfield, as well as play in coverage. Willis is the only ILB who fits all three spots, IMO.

8. Darrelle Revis - The pass D is dependant on one guy to generate a pass rush, so finding a CB who can play on an island and take out an opposing #1 WR would be huge. It would leave the other three DBs free to take out the rest of the bunch.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

driftwood wrote:
El ramster wrote:
Clay is not a franchise player. If you want havok get Chris Long or Cam Wake. Those guys wreck stuff up.


you going to bat for Long is no different than a Packer fan going to bat for CM3

its a wash with talent as far as I'm concerned... but if were going on production/stats alone Clay has been better (not arguable)

now Mr. Wake 'right now' is certainly a stud (but long & clay are younger & have more years of prime play left)

either way, you are wrong... & also right...but don't get it twisted Cool


But isnt that the whole point? I mean Vernon Gholston and Clay Matthews are probably a wash talent wise, its about putting up the numbers and making plays.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CornOnDaCobb wrote:
driftwood wrote:
El ramster wrote:
Clay is not a franchise player. If you want havok get Chris Long or Cam Wake. Those guys wreck stuff up.


you going to bat for Long is no different than a Packer fan going to bat for CM3

its a wash with talent as far as I'm concerned... but if were going on production/stats alone Clay has been better (not arguable)

now Mr. Wake 'right now' is certainly a stud (but long & clay are younger & have more years of prime play left)

either way, you are wrong... & also right...but don't get it twisted Cool


But isnt that the whole point? I mean Vernon Gholston and Clay Matthews are probably a wash talent wise, its about putting up the numbers and making plays.


true, but VG never had a sliver of the pro career that Long has had thus far (not a very fair comparison)

Long & CM3 are much more comparable than VG vs anyone who has had a remote shot of playing on Sunday

then again were both packer fans so there is 0 chance we even entertain the thought of taking long over CM3 at this point
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Luck
Calvin Johnson
Brandon Albert
Carl Nicks
Ryan Clady
J.J. Watt
Patrick Willis
Darrelle Revis
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

driftwood wrote:
CornOnDaCobb wrote:
driftwood wrote:
El ramster wrote:
Clay is not a franchise player. If you want havok get Chris Long or Cam Wake. Those guys wreck stuff up.


you going to bat for Long is no different than a Packer fan going to bat for CM3

its a wash with talent as far as I'm concerned... but if were going on production/stats alone Clay has been better (not arguable)

now Mr. Wake 'right now' is certainly a stud (but long & clay are younger & have more years of prime play left)

either way, you are wrong... & also right...but don't get it twisted Cool


But isnt that the whole point? I mean Vernon Gholston and Clay Matthews are probably a wash talent wise, its about putting up the numbers and making plays.


true, but VG never had a sliver of the pro career that Long has had thus far (not a very fair comparison)

Long & CM3 are much more comparable than VG vs anyone who has had a remote shot of playing on Sunday

then again were both packer fans so there is 0 chance we even entertain the thought of taking long over CM3 at this point


Objectively I just don't see how. CM3 was the runner-up for DPOY in 2010 and was the best at his position that year. In 2011, despite having the worst pass rush in the league, CM3 was still an effective pass rusher, being in the top 15 in pass rush effiecieny and had 3 picks for a 3-4 olb. And this year he would of been again a DPOY candidate but missed 4 games, but still was top 5 in sacks despite that.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wwhickok wrote:
Andrew Luck
Calvin Johnson
Brandon Albert
Carl Nicks
Ryan Clady
J.J. Watt
Patrick Willis
Darrelle Revis


Luck? Really?

I think he will be a great QB eventually, but thats jumping the gun.

Also (not entirely directed at you ww), Im not sure why people load up on offensive line. You dont need a great offensive line to be dominant. A great QB can make a line look better than they are anyway. LT, I get...but beyond that, I think there are better places to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaron Rodgers
Calvin Johnson
AJ Green
Joe Thomas

JJ Watt
Darrell Revis
Richard Sherman

Phil Dawson
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Andrew Luck
2. Adrian Peterson
3. Calvin Johnson
4. A.J. Green
5. J.J. Watt
6. Patrick Willis
7. Haloti Ngata
8. Branodn Flowers
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaron Rodgers
Joe Thomas
Carl Nicks
Nick Mangold


JJ Watt
Darrell Revis
Von Miller

the final slot is really tough for me. I want another DL player but I cannot decide. I really am not up to speed on Geno Atkins. I know he's been all the rage this year but I must admit my ignorance. Sad My other option is a receiver of some form for Rodgers - I personally would choose Fitz but I cannot decide on him over another DL player.

Other outside possibilities were another stud OL player or my favorite current Chief Derrick Johnson
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