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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rotoworld NFL Draft ‏@Rotoworld_Draft 8m Kawann Short visited with CAR on Wednesday http://dlvr.it/38KJcG

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated list of people we've worked out...

QB Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia
WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
WR Keenan Allen, California
WR Conner Vernon, Duke
WR Aaron Mellette, Elon
WR Tyrone Goard, Eastern Kentucky
TE Kevin Finney, Richmond
OG Alvin Bailey, Arkansas
OG Edmund Kugbila, Valdosta State
DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida
DT Kawann Short, Purdue
DL David Bass, Missouri Western
LB Gerald Hodges, Penn St.
LB Zaviar Gooden, Missouri
LB Jelani Jenkins, Florida
CB Sanders Commings, Georgia
S Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International
S Duke Williams, Nevada
DB Kayvon Webster, South Florida
DB Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zithers wrote:
Updated list of people we've worked out...

QB Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia
WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
WR Keenan Allen, California
WR Conner Vernon, Duke
WR Aaron Mellette, Elon
WR Tyrone Goard, Eastern Kentucky
TE Kevin Finney, Richmond
OG Alvin Bailey, Arkansas
OG Edmund Kugbila, Valdosta State
DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida
DT Kawann Short, Purdue

DL David Bass, Missouri Western
LB Gerald Hodges, Penn St.
LB Zaviar Gooden, Missouri
LB Jelani Jenkins, Florida
CB Sanders Commings, Georgia
S Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International

S Duke Williams, Nevada
DB Kayvon Webster, South Florida
DB Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana


People I'd want from this list.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Darin Gantt ‏@daringantt 22m WVU WR Stedman Bailey. RT @iamSB3: Charlotte, NC bound today. Taking my first official team visit. Where do you guys think I'm going???

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49ers "reportedly" are interested in Tavon Austin. Carolina at 14 is ahead of the Rams at 16 who also expressed interest. Carolina might be able to land an extra 2nd if they trade back. So Carolina would potentially have picks 31, 34, and 44. Thats 3 starters possibly.
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wolf7373 wrote:
49ers "reportedly" are interested in Tavon Austin. Carolina at 14 is ahead of the Rams at 16 who also expressed interest. Carolina might be able to land an extra 2nd if they trade back. So Carolina would potentially have picks 31, 34, and 44. Thats 3 starters possibly.


That would be huge if that were the case. We could easily pick up a DT, S, and WR with those picks and be sitting pretty.
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FriendlyEnemy wrote:
wolf7373 wrote:
49ers "reportedly" are interested in Tavon Austin. Carolina at 14 is ahead of the Rams at 16 who also expressed interest. Carolina might be able to land an extra 2nd if they trade back. So Carolina would potentially have picks 31, 34, and 44. Thats 3 starters possibly.


That would be huge if that were the case. We could easily pick up a DT, S, and WR with those picks and be sitting pretty.


That'd be ideal.

Cyprien, Hopkins/Hunter, and Short.
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Man, would I love a trade back.
I love the 2nd round prospects in this draft.
Would be ecstatic with a combination of Jonathan Cyprien, Justin Hunter, and Kawaan Short.
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Nolan Narwocki put out a scouting report on Geno Smith...

Negatives: Operated an offense where he received adjustments from the sidelines and was often out of sync with receivers. Average field vision and coverage recognition forces throws and does not work through progressions. Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler. Shaky lower-body mechanics does not stand tall in the pocket (crouches, hops, dances and elevates to his toes when he throws). Has pin legs and bad pocket posture. Operated almost exclusively from the gun. Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor no urgency. Not committed or focused marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college cannot handle hard coaching.

Summary: Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of overexcitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.



Guess this means he's a guaranteed Hall of Famer.
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Zithers wrote:
Nolan Narwocki put out a scouting report on Geno Smith...

Negatives: Operated an offense where he received adjustments from the sidelines and was often out of sync with receivers. Average field vision and coverage recognition forces throws and does not work through progressions. Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler. Shaky lower-body mechanics does not stand tall in the pocket (crouches, hops, dances and elevates to his toes when he throws). Has pin legs and bad pocket posture. Operated almost exclusively from the gun. Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor no urgency. Not committed or focused marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college cannot handle hard coaching.

Summary: Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of overexcitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.



Guess this means he's a guaranteed Hall of Famer.


God that guy is such a tool. How can someone who works fir such a large website get away with publishing garbage based on almost no truth?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TROJANPANTHER wrote:
Zithers wrote:
Nolan Narwocki put out a scouting report on Geno Smith...

Negatives: Operated an offense where he received adjustments from the sidelines and was often out of sync with receivers. Average field vision and coverage recognition forces throws and does not work through progressions. Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler. Shaky lower-body mechanics does not stand tall in the pocket (crouches, hops, dances and elevates to his toes when he throws). Has pin legs and bad pocket posture. Operated almost exclusively from the gun. Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor no urgency. Not committed or focused marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college cannot handle hard coaching.

Summary: Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of overexcitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.



Guess this means he's a guaranteed Hall of Famer.


God that guy is such a tool. How can someone who works fir such a large website get away with publishing garbage based on almost no truth?



It might be to bring in traffic. Being extremely positive doesn't have the same effect as this. I don't like his use of "sources" which can't be disputed and in the end neither can his opinion.

The draft is dangerous. Who knows who starts rumors but they can be extremely beneficial and costly to players.

Either way it's dirty.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TROJANPANTHER wrote:
Zithers wrote:
Nolan Narwocki put out a scouting report on Geno Smith...

Negatives: Operated an offense where he received adjustments from the sidelines and was often out of sync with receivers. Average field vision and coverage recognition forces throws and does not work through progressions. Takes unnecessary sacks and does not feel pressure well. Not an elusive scrambler. Shaky lower-body mechanics does not stand tall in the pocket (crouches, hops, dances and elevates to his toes when he throws). Has pin legs and bad pocket posture. Operated almost exclusively from the gun. Not a student of the game. Nonchalant field presence does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire. Mild practice demeanor no urgency. Not committed or focused marginal work ethic. Interviewed poorly at the Combine and did not show an understanding of concepts on the white board. Opted not to compete at the Senior Bowl and has approached offseason training as if he has already arrived and it shows in his body with minimal muscle definition or strength. Has small hands and glaring ball security issues (32 career fumbles). Really struggled handling the snow in Pinstripe Bowl (took two safeties) and will be troubled by the elements. Needed to be coddled in college cannot handle hard coaching.

Summary: Started the season red-hot with the help of two playmaking receivers and created a national stir generating a lot of overexcitement in the scouting community. Quickly came down to earth after Kansas State disguised coverages and brought pressure he could not handle and he finished dropping six of his final eight games. A cross between Akili Smith and Aaron Brooks, Smith is a gimmick, overhyped product of the system lacking the football savvy, work habits and focus to cement a starting job and could drain energy from a QB room. Will be overdrafted and struggle to produce against NFL defensive complexities.



Guess this means he's a guaranteed Hall of Famer.


God that guy is such a tool. How can someone who works fir such a large website get away with publishing garbage based on almost no truth?



By far the most accurate analysis of Geno Smith I have seen thus far in the draft process.
The only thing that was left out was him riding in on the coat tails of Russell Wilson, Luck, Kaepernick, & RGIII's rookie success.


Geno is Jason Campbell 2.0
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zithers wrote:
Updated list of people we've worked out...

QB Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia
WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
WR Keenan Allen, California
WR Conner Vernon, Duke
WR Aaron Mellette, Elon
WR Tyrone Goard, Eastern Kentucky
TE Kevin Finney, Richmond
OG Alvin Bailey, Arkansas
OG Edmund Kugbila, Valdosta State
DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida
DT Kawann Short, Purdue
DL David Bass, Missouri Western
LB Gerald Hodges, Penn St.
LB Zaviar Gooden, Missouri
LB Jelani Jenkins, Florida
CB Sanders Commings, Georgia
S Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International
S Duke Williams, Nevada
DB Kayvon Webster, South Florida
DB Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana


People I would like from the list. It sucks that we havent brought Star or Sheldon Richardson in for a visit, I guess theyre assuming Star wont be there? What about Richardson? If we could steal Star in the 1st and Stedman Bailey in the 2nd that is an A+ draft regardless how the rest of it goes.
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We'll be meeting with Gavin Escobar, TE from San Diego St. He's probably only behind... Eifert, Ertz, Sims, Reed? I'd love a second TE so we can do those two TE sets again.
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HighPointNCKid wrote:
Zithers wrote:
Updated list of people we've worked out...

QB Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia
WR Stedman Bailey, West Virginia
WR DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
WR Keenan Allen, California
WR Conner Vernon, Duke
WR Aaron Mellette, Elon
WR Tyrone Goard, Eastern Kentucky
TE Kevin Finney, Richmond
OG Alvin Bailey, Arkansas
OG Edmund Kugbila, Valdosta State
DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida
DT Kawann Short, Purdue
DL David Bass, Missouri Western
LB Gerald Hodges, Penn St.
LB Zaviar Gooden, Missouri
LB Jelani Jenkins, Florida
CB Sanders Commings, Georgia
S Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International
S Duke Williams, Nevada
DB Kayvon Webster, South Florida
DB Robert Alford, Southeastern Louisiana


People I would like from the list. It sucks that we havent brought Star or Sheldon Richardson in for a visit, I guess theyre assuming Star wont be there? What about Richardson? If we could steal Star in the 1st and Stedman Bailey in the 2nd that is an A+ draft regardless how the rest of it goes.


You like Austin but not Hopkins or Allen? lolwut?
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