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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:26 am    Post subject: Final 1 merry go rounder & explinations and some trades. Reply with quote


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1. Kansas City - LT Eric Fisher CMU
It's Fisher or Joeckel here. Reid is used to having some grit and toughness on his OL and Fisher offers great ability similar to Joeckel but has a little more of an attitude to him. Fisher will help add an identity to the KC offense.

2. Jacksonville - OT Luke Joeckel Texas A&M
Monroe is going into a contract year and it makes sense to draft his heir apparent and let Monroe walk and spend the money elsewhere in FA next year. Joeckel will man RT this season if Monroe isn't traded before then. Joeckel and Monroe will give whomever is behind center a true chance to show their ability. Could be the most improved offense after this draft.

3. Oakland - DT Sheldon Richardson Mizzou
Very likely trade spot but alas it doesn't happen here. Richardson is a very intriguing prospect for a number of reasons but the positives outweigh the negatives. Richardson has a fantastic motor to chase down plays (see the Alabama game) and great ability to break the LOS and disrupt the play.

TRADE
4. Arizona (from PHI) - LT Lane Johnson Oklahoma
Arizona wants better protection for Statue Palmer, I'm not buying the "we're comfortable" bit. Johnson has experience protecting immobile QB's (see Landry Jones) and has a great upside. His strong suit is pass-pro which is good for Palmer and the Arians offense.

5. Detroit - DE Ezekiel Ansah BYU
Another candidate for a trade spot but they stay put instead and add a prospect that oozes potential like a tesla coil does electricity. Ansah will take over Avril's spot and should put up double digit sack numbers based off of athleticism alone. Playing next to the best inside duo in football with Suh and Fairley ought to help.

6. Cleveland - OLB Dion Jordan Oregon
Cleveland is said to love Milliner but there's no way they pass on Dion Jordan. If this is the pick Sheard is as good as gone. Jordan hasn't really dominated in any aspect but has the potential to do so or, at minimum, be above average in pass rush and coverage. If he ends up in Cleveland expect a big year with Ray Horton at the helm of the defense.

7. Philadelphia (via AZ) - WR Tavon Austin WVU
Philadelphia gets some extra draft picks and adds the drafts most explosive playmaker. This may be a reach and Lotulelei would be a great pick up for the defense but with what's expected to be a fast(er) paced offense and mix in in Austin to Maclin, Jackson and McCoy the Eagles could make some noise due to sheer speed.

8. Buffalo - QB Ryan Nassib Syracuse
Barkley may be the pick here but it's got to be too tempting to pair Nassib with his college coach and continue the report they had in Syracuse. Buffalo may have a QB stick around and start for more than 4 years this time.

9. New York J - OLB Barkevious Mingo LSU
The Jets were very interested in Bruce Irvin last year before Seattle took him and Mingo fits that mold. Mingo is a little thin and light but his athleticism and speed on the edge with his experience against top competition is too much to pass on. Ryan finally gets a front 7 toy he can move around the LOS.

TRADE
10. Minnesota (from TN) - CB Dee Milliner Alabama
Big move up for Minnesota to grab the best corner prospect in the draft. Milliner will fill in the presence of consistency left by Winfield's departure. Milliner plays a similar style and should fit in well with Harrison Smith in the secondary.

TRADE
11. Atlanta (from SD) - DE Bjoern Werner FSU
Atlanta gets in the business of getting what they want again. With Abraham gone there's an enormous hole at the DE spot. Werner is a bit underrated imo and I think he was the driving force to Jenkins and Carradine's success not visa versa.

12. Miami - TE Tyler Eifert Notre Dame
A bit high, maybe but the don't risk losing out on who they really want at this point. When you find a franchise QB you give him MORE weapons. Wallace was a nice pick up but Eifert could be highly productive in this offense and is a solid blocker as well. The more he's on the field the more D's must account for him.

TRADE
13. San Francisco (from NYJ) - S Kenny Vaccaro Texas
Goldson's absence leaves a gaping hole in the back-end coverage. Vaccaro carries a similar skill-set and will step in right away and should pick up right where DG left off. Vaccaro will add a bit more versatility to defensive looks.

14. Carolina - DT Star Lotulelei Utah
Star falls here and Carolina wastes not a second making this pick. After reaching in the past for an inside presence they FINALLY acquire a legit inside force. Expect those around him to have increased production.

15. New Orleans - OLB Jarvis Jones UGA
Jones could go on the top 6 but falls here. New Orleans is making the switch to an odd-front and need someone with experience to man one of their outside posts. Jones is a phenomenal football player and will give Rob Ryan his playmaking OLB.

16. St. Louis - G Chance Warmack Alabama
St. Louis upgrades the inside of their OL here with, arguably, the best Guard in the draft. A powerhouse in the run game and a hydrant in pass-pro Warmack should fit in well with Jeff Fisher ran team.

17. Pittsburgh - WR Cordarrelle Patterson UT
Pittsburgh needs some juice back in the offense. Antonio Brown is still there but Wallace left and Mendenhall left but wasn't the same as before. This is boom or bust but his boom could be greater than Wallace's.

18. Dallas - DT Sharrif Floyd Florida
Floyd's fall finally stops here. Dallas is switching back to a 4-3 under Monte Kiffin and needs some fresh legs inside. Floyd and Ware should compliment each other very nicely. Some teams may try to jump up if Floyd falls out of the top 10 come draft day.

19. New York G - RT D.J. Fluker Bama
An instant starter at RT and allows Diehl to move back inside. Fluker has the ability to play inside as well but is best blowing up holes in the run game should be a Phil Loadholt type.

20. Chicago - G/C Jonathan Cooper UNC
An upgrade anywhere along Chicago's OL is welcomed. Cooper is arguably the best Guard prospect (along with Warmack) but offers more versatility that the Bama product does.

21. Cincinnati - S Eric Reid LSU
Reid is underrated. A good leader in the secondary and adds a presence and an identity to his secondaries. He hits and covers very well and should give the Bengals a fixture at safety they've been missing.

TRADE
22. New York J (from STL) - QB Geno Smith WVU
The Jets end up with their man after all. Smith will add some life into this offense whether its for not or for good will have to be determined quickly because the Jets fans and organization will not put up with another mediocre year with little promise for the future. Geno Smith will at least look like he belongs somewhat unlike that QB abomination they currently have.

23. Tennessee (via MN) - DE Tank Carradine FSU
Tennessee takes a high upside guy here in Carradine. "Tank" has a great burst off the line and does a good job flowing back up into the pocket as the QB shuffles forward. They've been hit or miss on their DE draft choices, they hope they got their guy here this time.

24. Indianapolis - DL Johnathan Hankins Ohio St.
A presence in needed on the DL (or front 7 in general for that matter) and Hankins could be gone by this point. If he does fall and Indy picks him up he'll stand out immediately as a fixture for that defense.

25. Minnesota - WR Justin Hunter Tennessee
Surprise pick somewhat with Allen and Hopkins on the board but out of these three WR's, Hunter offers more of a threat than the other two. With another year to be more comfortable with his knee he should at least help keep defenses from putting 8-9 in the box to stop AP his rookie year. Red zone machine...?

26. Green Bay - ILB Manti Te'o Notre Dame
Te'o falls in about as good if a situation as he could. A smaller city that only cares about football. If Manti produces like Hawk should have the whole fake GF things should fade.

27. Houston - WR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson
Johnson has needed a solid no. 2 across from him since day one and they nab one here. Hopkins is a great route runner and understands where he needs to be to make the play. Hopkins is another WR that could rise further.

28. Denver - CB D.J. Hayden Houston
Hayden has a great story and can learn from one of the best to play the game. A smooth skill-set and natural coverage ability should be VERY welcomed to the Denver secondary.

29. New England - DL Datone Jones UCLA
Jones could crack top 20. Very versatile and active. Jones will play across from another Jones from last year and can kick inside on obvious passing downs. If this front can't stay healthy they could be a dominant front 4.

30. Jacksonville (from SD via ATL) - QB Matt Barkley USC
Jacksonville finds a spot to grab their QBoF. Barkley has been getting a bad wrap but looking at his production, understanding and high tangible character will bring Barkley to success and may end up being the best of the bunch.

31. St. Louis (from NYJ via SF) - S Johnathan Cyprien FIU
St. Louis needs some safety help or at least an upgrade. Cyprien is a playmaker and is just going to enhance that defense with Finnegan and Jenkins in the secondary and Laurinaitis, Long, Brockers and Quinn in the front 7.

32. Baltimore - WR Keenan Allen Cal
Allen falls and possibly not to a better team for him to fit in and integrate himself into this offense. Boldin bolted and the only truly reliable receiver is Torrey Smith. Allen has the ability to be the top WR in the class but health is a big ? You payed your QB $120,000,000. Get him weapons.

56. Seattle - OL Kyle Long Oregon
Seattle could go TE, 3-tech or really almost any position but if Kyle Long is still available he could fit in right away at RT or compete and likely win a G spot. Either way it's an upgrade on the OL and with better OL play the more time Russell has to get the ball into his myriad of receivers' hands.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I certainly like vaccaro, I don't think the niners do all the much. We never met with him or worked him out. I think the niners are wanting bigger more physical safety help, which is unfortunate because vacarro is a natural pairing with whitner. My gut is saying if we trade up, its for tank carradine.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Bengals pick
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

0.0% chance that Vikings trade happens, they have too many holes on the team and the draft is fairly solid through the middle picks, no way the Vikings trade a 1st next year or their 2nd this year to move up, so no chance the Vikings trade up that high. Spielman loves his picks as well, and the team primarily runs a cover 2, they can get someone who can be good in that at pick 23 if they want.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO WAY! No way in hell does Jaguars trade up to get Matt Barkley, it just won't happen.
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There is NO REASON the Falcons trade up to take Werner...it makes no sense, if we trade up, hopefully it'll be for someone we need to trade up to get...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If rather the Jets take Cyprien than Geno.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jones is a good pick for NE, I personally prefer Cyprien but this is a good mock overall.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the trades really make no sense...Arizona will have to trade into Oaklands spot for Lane Johnson and Oakland is willing...Minnesota wont move that high up for Miller when they have a realistic shot at Rhoades and Trufant and Atlanta all the way up for Werner...who is solid but not a difference maker..naw..San Francisco trade...maybe


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great trade back but what are the details? Great pick.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love cooper to the bears. Gives us great flexibility for our offensive line.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gnat wrote:
0.0% chance that Vikings trade happens, they have too many holes on the team and the draft is fairly solid through the middle picks, no way the Vikings trade a 1st next year or their 2nd this year to move up, so no chance the Vikings trade up that high. Spielman loves his picks as well, and the team primarily runs a cover 2, they can get someone who can be good in that at pick 23 if they want.


Agree that the Vikes would not trade up that high. They might be interested in moving up a few but have too many holes to be giving up other high picks.
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24. Indianapolis - DL Johnathan Hankins Ohio St.
A presence in needed on the DL (or front 7 in general for that matter) and Hankins could be gone by this point. If he does fall and Indy picks him up he'll stand out immediately as a fixture for that defense.

He is almost guaranteed to be there, and you're underselling our DL. We don't need DL help, were set at starting positions. Sly or Richardson at DE would be okay though.

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