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Help Defenders?
Taj Gibson
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Garnett
13%
 13%  [ 4 ]
Joel Anthony
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Coward
10%
 10%  [ 3 ]
Bosh
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Hibbert
6%
 6%  [ 2 ]
Marc Gasol (as if I had to specify)
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Noah
37%
 37%  [ 11 ]
Chandler
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Asik
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
Duncan
17%
 17%  [ 5 ]
Andy V (don't sleep)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Ibaka....lolololololol
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Sanders
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Biyombo
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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Dolphins82


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:05 pm    Post subject: Best Help Defender (Bigs Only)? Reply with quote

- Factor [obviously] in timely & correct rotations
- Adeptness at P&R defense
- Being able to set a hard hedge or showing and getting back quickly...not opening to wide, or getting to the ballhandler too slow
- Closeout ability
- Recovery
- Awareness (regarding back side cuts, getting back to orginal man, covering for teammates)
- Knowing when to stay home, anticipating movement, not over extending
- Catching guards off screens
- Cutting off passing lanes
- Communication (a little harder to judge)





Omer Asik catching attackers off the P&R.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svkYrt0sT8k
Chris Bosh making timely rotations... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJyGKISS0CM
Bosh cutting off Parker twice, taking away a passing lane, and finishing off the possession with a block on Green.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FcminfxoMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SauvCYB2TKI

Roy Hibbert is hard to judge. I've seen him get burnt and be totally helpless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_-kx4dpx1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLe6YbkDVc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPPRwRNWQy4

But then I see him backpedal, and even though he seems slows as ish, he simply gets in position to stop attackers. He uses his head as he knows he can't afford to waste a step. He's definitely a boss rim protector, but he can be taken advantage of if you draw him out. His teammates and coaches just do a damn good job of covering for him.


Bum Ibaka.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPTuhRzDrI0





Again...I know I probably left some guys off.....
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noah easily
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El ramster wrote:
Noah easily


Nice pick Ramdaddy..

Noah is the best C in the game IMO
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleedin_Green36 wrote:
El ramster wrote:
Noah easily


Nice pick Ramdaddy..

Noah is the best C in the game IMO



He makes Thibs defense goes.
Thibs relies heavily on help defense, it's why
I LOL when people call Jimmy a Lebron stopper.

Noah can also fly on the outside and cover bigs who
Can shoot. It's why they nullified Brooks,
Plus I love the fact that he's a maniac and plays
With intense passion. Noah makes Thibs defense go.
Such a versatile Center.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmy D
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rammy Didn't pick Hibbert Shocked



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duncan.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duncan?

Did some of you miss the game? He was getting abused in some games by Bosh. We all saw how easy Miami was getting up
The rim.. Hell naw son.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

El ramster wrote:
Duncan?

Did some of you miss the game? He was getting abused in some games by Bosh. We all saw how easy Miami was getting up
The rim.. Hell naw son.


Duncan was just executing the gameplan man. Bosh was of no concern to Pop
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garnett and it's not even close
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All around help defense is KG. Weak side rim protection is probably Howard or Hibbert. Pick n roll help defense is KG and I guess bosh.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel Anthony with 1 vote Laughing

1. Noah

2. KG
3. Duncan
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Wallace?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

El ramster wrote:
Bleedin_Green36 wrote:
El ramster wrote:
Noah easily


Nice pick Ramdaddy..

Noah is the best C in the game IMO



He makes Thibs defense goes.
Thibs relies heavily on help defense, it's why
I LOL when people call Jimmy a Lebron stopper.

Noah can also fly on the outside and cover bigs who
Can shoot. It's why they nullified Brooks,
Plus I love the fact that he's a maniac and plays
With intense passion. Noah makes Thibs defense go.
Such a versatile Center.


No such thing as a Lebron stopper. The only one that can stop him is Lebron himself.

Lebron Limiter? Those exist.

Jimmy B did a swell job on that in the playoffs considering how raw he is and the size advantage.
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