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hawkman98272


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

desi22601 wrote:
Robert Quinn and Chris Long should be Applause

yeah, I was confused at that....
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandyMossIsBoss wrote:
Eagles

2002: Lito Sheppard Applause
2003: Jerome McDougle d'oh!
2004: Shawn Andrews Applause
2005: Mike Patterson Neutral
2006: Brodrick Bunkley Neutral
2007: N/A
2008: N/A
2009: Jeremy Maclin Applause
2010: Brandon Graham Neutral
2011: Danny Watkins d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Just 3 picks that you could argue were definitely good picks.


Andrews was hurt and crazy all the time. not a good pick.

Maclin is actually a huge disappointment. Any one that saw him play in college would agree.


Lito was an ok player.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Worst drafting teams in the first round past decade Reply with quote

vikes22 wrote:
What team would be your pick? I know Oakland has been awful at drafting. I pulled up the Rams list of 1st rounders after seeing tonight they don't have much talent.

2008 2 Chris Long DE Virginia d'oh!
2010 1 Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma d'oh! d'oh!
2011 14 Robert Quinn DE UNC Neutral




you have to be joking..... i please hope so.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank god Atlanta's not in this group:

GM Rich McKay

2004 - DeAngelo Hall Very Happy
Michael Jenkins Very Happy
2005 - Roddy White Dancing Dancing Dancing
2006 - traded for John Abraham
2007 - Jamaal Anderson Brick wall Brick wall

GM Thomas Dimitroff

2008 - Matt Ryan Applause Applause Applause Applause
Sam Baker Neutral
2009 - Peria Jerry Neutral
2010 - Sean Weatherspoon Applause Applause
2011 - Julio Jones Dancing Dancing Dancing
2012 - Traded away
2013 - Desmond Trufant
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThugCityGrunt wrote:
Nobody did the Lions yet?

We'll start in 2002, just so we can get Joey Harrington involved.

2002 - Joey Harrington d'oh!
2003 - Charles Rogers d'oh!
2004 - Roy Williams Confused
2005 - Mike Williams d'oh! Brick wall d'oh! Brick wall
2006 - Ernie Sims d'oh! d'oh!
2007 - Calvin Johnson Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
2008 - Gosder Cherilous Confused
2009 - Matthew Stafford Smile
2009 - Brandon Pettigrew d'oh!
2010 - Ndamukong Suh Very Happy
2010 - Jahvid Best Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
2011 - Nick Fairley Smile
2012 - Riley Reiff Smile
2013 - Ziggy Ansah Question Very Happy

The only first round picks we have hit on in the last 11 years (Not counting Ansah yet) that wasnt gift wrapped was Riley Reiff & Roy Williams (who turned into 1st round bust Brandon Pettigrew and 3rd round meh starter Deandre Levy). And the only reason I dont consider Reiff a gimme was because DeCastro was on the board.


A decade is 10 years, not twelve.

2004 - Roy Williams- Roy was a solid WR for us for a few years. We got a good haul for him when Mayhew took over as GM. Very Happy
2005 - Mike Williams- BMW had so much talent, but a much bigger appetite. Sad
2006 - Ernie Sims- Was solid for us for awhile. Didn't transition with the team.
2007 - Calvin Johnson- So glad Millen didn't get Russell, whom he coveted. Dancing
2008 - Gosder Cherilus- Okay starter. But glad we replaced him.
2009 - Matthew Stafford- Franchise QB. Better than Sanchez/Freeman. Very Happy
2009 - Brandon Pettigrew- He's been inconsistent.
2010 - Ndamukong Suh- Amazing player. Great pick. Smile
2010 - Jahvid Best- Sad. He was really good before concussions took him away. Crying or Very sad
2011 - Nick Fairley- Beast of a pick. Shocked
2012 - Riley Reiff- Starting LT. Not elite, but solid. Not much more you could ask for. Smile
2013 - Ziggy Ansah- We shall see.

Overall, it's not so bad. Of course, we're getting further and further removed from Millens regime. I definitely wouldn't put the Lions anyway close to the bottom of drafts.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bowler1215 wrote:
yomyyo wrote:
The Bears have been pretty horrible. Jerry Angelo's inability to draft left to his removal.

2003- Michael Haynes
2003- Rex Grossman
2004- Tommie Harris
2005- Cedric Benson
2006- none
2007- Greg Olsen
2008- Chris Williams
2009- none
2010- none
2011- Gabe Carimi

That Raiders list looks pretty bad, too.



Haynes Benson and Williams were awful

Harris and Carimi looked good until injuries took a toll on them.

Rex wasnt entirely bad. Part was JA inability to draft o-linemen and give him weapons. Rex gets some blame, but he wasnt as bad as people make him out to be.

Olsen wasnt bad, but we hired Martz as OC and he didnt fit in with what Martz does.

Angelos drafting style was over drafting small school players and drawing names out of a hat.
As much as Bears fans want to believe this is true, it simply is not. He played in 2 Fn games before his injury, neither was a "great" game. He still displayed all the things you saw on the college tape which ultimately proved to be why he doesn't belong in the NFL. Too slow of feet, not good hand placement, not a good enough athlete to play outside. Conversely, Tommie Harris was the DPOY front runner and quite possibly the most dominant defensive player in the game before his injury.

All those no picks, that's a + b/c at least it wasn't first round money thrown away on a bad pick. (this is why JA is gone).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ward4HOF wrote:
How 'bout the last 1/2 decade...then the Steeler's might be in contention:

'08 -- Rashard Mendenhall Confused (Had 3 decent years, then...meh...definitely did not live up to 1st Rd selection expectations)
'09 -- Ziggy Hood Mad (Should NEVER have been drafted by us; poor fit for our scheme)
'10 -- Maurkice Pouncey Neutral (overrated, IMO...he's ok, but not nearly worthy of the distinction he's been granted)
'11 -- Cam Heyward Neutral (Should be starting, but hasn't beat out Keisel[old]/Hood [see above] as of yet...not a good sign.)
'12 -- DeCastro Anxious (Last year was injured most of year; this year, he takes out Pouncey for the year...jinxed?)
'13 -- Jarvis Jones Question (Looks promising, but beating out Worilds is not saying much)

Still holding out hope for the last three years selections, but so far, not overly impressed.

Maybe my expectations are too high, but after the first five years of the decade's selections...Polamalu, Ben, Heath Miller, Santonio Holmes, and Timmons...it appears Colbert's drafts are declining.


We are not in contention at all. Your expectations are too high.

I agree they havent wowed us, but not a single one of them are stone cold busts. As much as people complain about Ziggy, he is not terrible, just average. Pouncey isnt amazing but still one of the better centers in the league. DeCastro is essentially a rookie. Heyward...him not starting is on the coaches. He outplayed Ziggy and Keisel several times last year, but we always seem to give favortism towards vets.

Steeler fans complain about our drafts lately, but Id rather have our haul than alot of the teams I am seeing.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saints
2004: Will Smith Applause Until recently, he was a legit pass rusher for the Saints
2005: Jamaal Brown Applause Had it not been for injury issues, this guy would've been a great o-lineman
2006: Reggie Bush Think This one is hard because Bush was a great receiving back, pretty good punt returner who occasionally took one to the house, and went on to have success with other teams. But his injury issues and inability to run the ball in our system made him a liability at times.
2007: Robert Meachem: d'oh! At one point in 2009 he looked like he was prime to breakout and emerge as more than just an occasional deep threat. Never happened, ended up with the Chargers who dumped him a season later, came back to resign with New Orleans.
2008: Sedrick Ellis d'oh! Another player that showed promise at one point, but somewhere along the line he regressed and never recovered.
2009: Malcolm Jenkins: Think Started off shaky at CB, looked great in 2010 when we moved him to safety, looked like crap for two seasons, but has shown some improvement this year under Rob Ryan. We'll see if he's pretending or not.
2010: Patrick Robinson Think Inconsistent but definitely shows potential. He'll probably never amount to a first rounder but might be a solid guy to cover the slot and backup talent WRs. As long as we don't have him covering guys like Julio or Dez Bryant I think he'll pan out.
2011: Cameron Jordan: Applause Looked like a bust his first season, showed improvement second year, and has looked like a complete stud this season, both rushing the passer and run stopping which was supposedly his strength coming out of college.
2011: Mark Ingram d'oh! Traded up to draft him the first. Horrible decision. Aside from the fact that we've been running a RB by committee offense since at least 2008, and have done so successfully, there's no need to trade up and draft a RB in the first round when you have an elite QB and a pass heavy offense. Ingram's drafting was an overreaction to how impotent our rushing attack was in 2010. But yeah, the guy has looked liked garbage so far and is consistently the least efficient back on a team that has made no names look like studs (Chris Ivory)
2012: None
2013: Kenny Vaccaro Applause Despite how young his career is, the guy has looked great so far. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being the best player in our secondary.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 10 years in a decade, not 11. 2003 is not in the past decade.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't see how this is anyone other than the Raiders?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
There are 10 years in a decade, not 11. 2003 is not in the past decade.


Who cares? If people want to do more than 10 years, I dont see why certain people are freaking out that they do a year or 2 extra.

Some people are going from 2003 to 2012 instead. It may not be in the last 10 years, but since you cant really grade 2013 picks at all, its a legit reason. The last 10 years that can be somewhat accurately graded.
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