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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Round 1 Pick 1: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Lamin Barrow, ILB, LSU (A-)
Round 5 Pick 1: Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh (D)
Round 6 Pick 1: Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
Round 6 Pick 5: Bennett Jackson, CB, Notre Dame (A)
Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Kasim Edebali, OLB, Boston College (A-)
Round 7 Pick 1: De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (B-)
Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): Reggie Jordan, FB, Missouri Western State (B+)

This game is broken.. Nix is probably going to be gone in the first 20 picks. There's a huge drop off after him. Also the QBs slide too far.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
Round 1 Pick 1: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Lamin Barrow, ILB, LSU (A-)
Round 5 Pick 1: Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh (D)
Round 6 Pick 1: Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
Round 6 Pick 5: Bennett Jackson, CB, Notre Dame (A)
Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Kasim Edebali, OLB, Boston College (A-)
Round 7 Pick 1: De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (B-)
Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): Reggie Jordan, FB, Missouri Western State (B+)

This game is broken.. Nix is probably going to be gone in the first 20 picks. There's a huge drop off after him. Also the QBs slide too far.


Yeah, I was playing with it the other day and I noticed that you can manipulate your scores by taking certain players at points that the sim wants you to. It's fun, but was highly inaccurate. I also didn't like that you can't offer teams deals when you're on the clock, nor can you counter offers. You have to take it or leave it. I found that I wanted to try to trade back a few times but couldn't because it wouldn't let me offer deals once I was on the clock, so I would have to make the pick that I didn't want. It's hard to maneuver in this sim.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Round 1 Pick 1: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
Round 6 Pick 5: Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke (B+)
Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Fera, K, Texas (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Trey Millard, FB, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech (C)


No trades, took whati could when I could
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys I had the Texans in a mock draft on here. How did I do? I'll justify my reasons for who I picked and why. Feel free to ask. I'd love the feedback.

Draft picks
#1- Jadaveon Clowney, Front 5; South Carolina
#28 (via Panthers)- Derek Carr, QB; Fresno State
#65- Jarvis Landry, WR; LSU
#113(Giants)- Rashaad Reynolds, CB; Oregon State
#135(Comp)- Caraun Reid, DL; Princeton
#181(Oak)- Devon Kennard, LB; USC
#187(Giants)- Justin Britt, OT; Missouri
#211(Comp)- Solomon Patton, Weapon; Florida
#216- Josh Mauro, DE; Stanford
#225(Panthers)- Tyler Gaffney, RB; Stanford
#256(Comp)-Shaquil Barrett, LB; Colorado State


Trades:
Texans receive; #28 and 7th round from the Panthers
Panthers receive; 2nd, 5th and 6th round Texans picks.

Traded 4th round
Received Giants 4th and 6th


UDFA:
Mo Seisay, CB; Nebraska
LaDarius Perkins, RB; Ole Miss
Taylor Martinez, ATH; Nebraska
Trey Burton, TE/FB; Florida
Evan Gill, DL; Canada
Sean Parker, S; Washington
Matt Feiler, OL; Bloomsburg
Shawn Shupperd, DL; Western Kentucky
James Wright, WR; LSU
Ricky Tjong a Tjoe, DL; Boise State
Zurlon Tipton, HB; Central Michigan


QB- Ryan Fitzpatrick, Derek Carr, Case Keenum
RB- Arian Foster, Tyler Gaffney, LaDarius Perkins
FB- Brad Smelley
WR- Andre Johnson, Devier Posey
WR- DeAndre Hopkins
Slot- Jarvis Landry, Keshawn Martin
X- Solomon Patton
TE- Garrett Graham, Ryan Griffin, Trey Burton
LT- Duane Brown
LG- Brandon Brooks, Cody White
C- Chris Myers, Ben Jones
RG- David Quessenberry, Derek Newton
RT- Brennan Williams, Justin Britt

DE- JJ Watt, Josh Mauro
NT- Jerrell Powe, Caruan Reid
DE- Jared Crick, Tim Jamison, Evan Gill
OLB- Whitney Mercilus, Shaquil Barrett
ILB- Brian Cushing, Devon Kennard
ILB- Brooks Reed, Jeff Tarpinian
OLB- Jadaveon Clowney, Trevardo Williams
CB- Johnathan Joseph, AJ Bouye
CB- Kareem Jackson, Mo Seisay
NI- Brandon Harris, Rashaad Reynolds
SS- DJ Swearinger, Eddie Pleasant
FS- Chris Clemons, Kendrick Lewis

K- Randy Bullock
P- Shane Lechler
LS- Jon Weeks


Cut: TJ Yates, Toben Opurum, Alan Bonner, Alex Kuper, Jessie Tuggle, Lovye Means, Shiloh Keo, Ray Graham, Ricky Sapp, Dennis Johnson, Alec Lemon

PS:
Shaun Shupperd, DL
Ricky Tjong a Tjoe, DL
Matt Feiler, OL
Sean Parker, S
Taylor Martinez, ATH
Zurlon Tipton, HB
James Wright, WR
Phillip Supernaw, TE

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pastor Dillon wrote:
Round 1 Pick 1: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
Round 6 Pick 5: Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke (B+)
Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Fera, K, Texas (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Trey Millard, FB, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech (C)


No trades, took whati could when I could


Ew. I don't like this one very much from the start. Nothing personal. Wink I'm not a Manziel fan at all, but especially not at #1. Mosely I can deal with, but I prefer a couple of ILB's later in the draft. Daquan Jones probably wouldn't be a DT in this scheme but could work at DE, same with Anthony Johnson. I do like Andre Williams, he would be a quality back up and would have a year to be the 3rd back and develop into the 2nd guy. I really don't like the kicker pick. I thought it was a bad idea when they drafted Bullock. There's always quality kickers as UDFA and guys that have been banging around the league for a while. Kicker is such an up and down spot, at any given moment, you can almost cut your guy and sign someone that's just as good, maybe better. If Logan Thomas ever develops his mental game, he could be a Cam Newton type, but I'm not sure he will. He does a lot of stuff that makes you scratch your head.

edit: Sorry, I didn't mean to rip your draft. Eventually, I'll get around to posting a draft with no trades so that you can rip mine.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here's my draft with no trades. I present it to the masses for comment. I really wanted to address Wade Smith's lingering free agency and Derek Newton needing to go, but I never found a spot or player I wanted to replace them.

Your score is: 4632 (GRADE: B+) (Comments are my own for a look into "what was I thinking".)

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 1: Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville (A) (Self-evident. At this point, you either like him or you don't. I do.)

Round 2 Pick 1: Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame (B) (I like the diversity of being able to play inside in the nickel and set the edge in base looks.)

Round 3 Pick 1: Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska (B) (Able to play outside, but would be an effective DB on these two TE looks everyone wants to run. He can cover these guys when they are in the slot or in line.)

Round 4 Pick 1: Shayne Skov, ILB, Stanford (B+) (Finally gives Houston a viable starter next to Cushing and can take over as the guy if Cush were to go down again.)

Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama (A) (Would push Mercilus to produce or lose his starting gig. Good off the edge and would benefit from playing behind Tuitt)

Round 5 Pick 1: Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (A) (Would easily take over the #2 spot after Andre Brown's 1 year deal is up and provide solid depth in the mean time.)

Round 6 Pick 1: Dri Archer, WR, Kent State (B) (Let's face it, Keshawn Martin hasn't impressed as PK/KR. Archer can, and would provide the Darren Sproles type. Can play slot, take reverses for good gains and can be a change of pace guy. A guy this diverse holding a game day roster spot earns his keep by doing so much, unlike when Trindon Holliday was in a Texans uniform)

Round 6 Pick 5: Ryan Carrethers, DT, Arkansas State (B+) (2 gap all day. Massive guy that can just take up space and blocks, allowing Cushing and Skov to roam from ILB and taking heat off of JJ Watt to allow him to be the beast he is.

Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Rob Blanchflower, TE, Massachusetts (B) (Good hands, good blocker, can play special teams. Would be a great 3rd TE.)

Round 7 Pick 1: Jonathan Newsome, OLB, Ball State (C) (This is where I screwed up. I misjudged where I was in the draft. I thought this was the last pick. Had I realized it wasn't, I would have taken Kevin Norwood, WR from Alabama here and taken Newsome last. Newsome was good enough to play for Ohio State, but had an "incident" with marijuana and transferred to Ball State. Good depth at OLB and would play the Bryan Braman role on special teams.)

Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (A) (D'AT was a luxury pick when I realized that I messed up. His skill set is similar to Dri Archer, and if I had gotten the picks right, Thomas would have been an UDFA pick up for camp.)

UDFA's
Taj Boyd, QB, Clemson
(For no other reason other than the DeAndre Hopkins connection. Could push Yates and Keenum to see who REALLY wants to be the 3rd QB)

Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest (May do nothing in the NFL, may be another Wes Welker. As a Duke fan, I'm glad to see this guy gone. He was a pain in the rear. Good talent and may make a roster or Practice Squad somewhere, why not Houston?)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shep0507 wrote:
Pastor Dillon wrote:
Round 1 Pick 1: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
Round 6 Pick 5: Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke (B+)
Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Fera, K, Texas (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Trey Millard, FB, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech (C)


No trades, took whati could when I could


Ew. I don't like this one very much from the start. Nothing personal. Wink I'm not a Manziel fan at all, but especially not at #1. Mosely I can deal with, but I prefer a couple of ILB's later in the draft. Daquan Jones probably wouldn't be a DT in this scheme but could work at DE, same with Anthony Johnson. I do like Andre Williams, he would be a quality back up and would have a year to be the 3rd back and develop into the 2nd guy. I really don't like the kicker pick. I thought it was a bad idea when they drafted Bullock. There's always quality kickers as UDFA and guys that have been banging around the league for a while. Kicker is such an up and down spot, at any given moment, you can almost cut your guy and sign someone that's just as good, maybe better. If Logan Thomas ever develops his mental game, he could be a Cam Newton type, but I'm not sure he will. He does a lot of stuff that makes you scratch your head.

edit: Sorry, I didn't mean to rip your draft. Eventually, I'll get around to posting a draft with no trades so that you can rip mine.


getting Mosley in the 2nd round is a steal of a pick....and i knew the Manziel pick wasnt going to be popular around here Very Happy

I would like to know why you dont think that DaQuan Jones can play NT in our scheme. he is 6ft 4 320 pounds, the type of big gap filler you want
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pastor Dillon wrote:
shep0507 wrote:
Pastor Dillon wrote:
Round 1 Pick 1: Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Andre Williams, RB, Boston College (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami (Fla.) (C+)
Round 6 Pick 5: Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke (B+)
Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Anthony Fera, K, Texas (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Trey Millard, FB, Oklahoma (B+)
Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech (C)


No trades, took whati could when I could


Ew. I don't like this one very much from the start. Nothing personal. Wink I'm not a Manziel fan at all, but especially not at #1. Mosely I can deal with, but I prefer a couple of ILB's later in the draft. Daquan Jones probably wouldn't be a DT in this scheme but could work at DE, same with Anthony Johnson. I do like Andre Williams, he would be a quality back up and would have a year to be the 3rd back and develop into the 2nd guy. I really don't like the kicker pick. I thought it was a bad idea when they drafted Bullock. There's always quality kickers as UDFA and guys that have been banging around the league for a while. Kicker is such an up and down spot, at any given moment, you can almost cut your guy and sign someone that's just as good, maybe better. If Logan Thomas ever develops his mental game, he could be a Cam Newton type, but I'm not sure he will. He does a lot of stuff that makes you scratch your head.

edit: Sorry, I didn't mean to rip your draft. Eventually, I'll get around to posting a draft with no trades so that you can rip mine.


getting Mosley in the 2nd round is a steal of a pick....and i knew the Manziel pick wasnt going to be popular around here Very Happy

I would like to know why you dont think that DaQuan Jones can play NT in our scheme. he is 6ft 4 320 pounds, the type of big gap filler you want


Yeah, he's 320, but what I've seen of him, he doesn't seem to demand or hold double teams well enough to be a 2 gap per. I could see him doing better in Wade's 3-4. My opinion of course.

I like Mosely too if you can get him in the second, but I think hell be long gone then. If he's there he's probably BPA.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traded out of the first and I was pretty happy with what I got. Obviously, we understand the game may not be realistic, but it's still fun to think about.

Your score is: 5614 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 1: Jason Verrett, CB, TCU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 5 (ATL): Dee Ford, DE, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 18 (MIA): Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Kareem Martin, DE, North Carolina (B)
Round 3 Pick 4 (ATL): Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Joel Bitonio, OT, Nevada (A-)
Round 4 Pick 3 (ATL): Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia (A)
Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Trai Turner, OG, LSU (B)
Round 5 Pick 1: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: J.C. Copeland, FB, LSU (A)
Round 6 Pick 5: Kevin Pierre-Louis, OLB, Boston College (A)
Round 6 Pick 35 (COMP): Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State (B-)
Round 7 Pick 41 (COMP): De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (A)

Your Future Picks:
2015 Round 1 Pick
2015 Round 1 Pick (MIA)
2016 Round 1 Pick
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a moderator but there's already a thread going for the first-pick.com simulator mocks. Can we keep those mocks in that thread and leave this one for more realistic draft discussion? Thanks. That thread is here:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=542525&sid=080a63ed4f47f1fc87a88343c062d9c6
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Not that mock drafts mean anything, but I saw Kiper's mock and he has us taking Clowney and Bridgewater falling to 33. I would cry if that end up happening.
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Not that mock drafts mean anything, but I saw Kiper's mock and he has us taking Clowney and Bridgewater falling to 33. I would cry if that end up happening.


that would be the best draft haul in history

we could see a repeat of 2006 where we get Clowney and Mosley...that would be epic!
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Pastor Dillon wrote:
Texansfan713 wrote:
Not that mock drafts mean anything, but I saw Kiper's mock and he has us taking Clowney and Bridgewater falling to 33. I would cry if that end up happening.


that would be the best draft haul in history

we could see a repeat of 2006 where we get Clowney and Mosley...that would be epic!


The fact that it would be another player from Carolina and 'Bama would be an interesting coincidence.
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Pastor Dillon wrote:
Texansfan713 wrote:
Not that mock drafts mean anything, but I saw Kiper's mock and he has us taking Clowney and Bridgewater falling to 33. I would cry if that end up happening.


that would be the best draft haul in history

we could see a repeat of 2006 where we get Clowney and Mosley...that would be epic!


I've begun to wonder if we might trade back (high) into the first for a QB after going with Clowney first. Most would be quick to point out that we have a lot of holes on the roster, but I think these deficiencies could be effectively masked by an improved pass rush and a quarterback.
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kenney wrote:
Pastor Dillon wrote:
Texansfan713 wrote:
Not that mock drafts mean anything, but I saw Kiper's mock and he has us taking Clowney and Bridgewater falling to 33. I would cry if that end up happening.


that would be the best draft haul in history

we could see a repeat of 2006 where we get Clowney and Mosley...that would be epic!


I've begun to wonder if we might trade back (high) into the first for a QB after going with Clowney first. Most would be quick to point out that we have a lot of holes on the roster, but I think these deficiencies could be effectively masked by an improved pass rush and a quarterback.


I still don't think Clowney is right for this D. I don't care if he is supposedly so talented, he's essentially a 4-3 DE. If it's defense #1, I want Khalil Mack. Clowney's not so much more talented overall than Mack it matters enough to overlook need. With Mack, you're still getting an elite capable pass rusher, who can also cover. He will be on the field every down, whether at rush OLB, ILB or nickel DE. Also, there are some DE's and DT's that would fit into the 2 gap 3-4 better than Clowney later in the draft that would take up just as much attention and let Watt, Cushing and Mack roam free.
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