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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A well designed zone read, which I believe was the call on CJ's 89 yard touchdown, can really set this team up out of the shotgun. Once Vince fakes the handoff and runs a few times, teams are going to have to commit at least a linebacker to him every time we go shotgun, and it'll get Chris into space. Now that Vince is running again, we need to build plays around the speed of the two players in the backfield. Although you can't be an option team in the NFL, running the occasional option, and/or zone read, will free up things for Vince, for the receivers and for CJ. I liked what I saw from the coaching staff offensively this week, but I hope we continue to build on what we have from a creative standpoint.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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About VY he said....
Adams said. " … I see him having a great future with us here.
Wow, strong words there. I guess it pretty much gives the idea that were not looking for any type of quarterback in the early rounds of the draft. Hello, to a new defensive stud!

I beg to differ. From what I've read, Bud is not anywhere near giving Vince the keys to the future. Look here:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/5139/adams-on-young-and-fisher
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“That’s what I came up here for, to get that big tall guy named Vince Young to show what he can do,” Adams said. “You know he hasn’t played that much, his contract is coming up pretty soon for renewal.”
“We’ve got to find out how he has developed over the last two years, he hasn’t played that much. We’ve got to get him in and find out what he can do because otherwise, we’re going to have a high draft choice and we better be looking for another new quarterback. …”

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IONDragonX wrote:
TTitanFAN32 wrote:
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About VY he said....
Adams said. " … I see him having a great future with us here.
Wow, strong words there. I guess it pretty much gives the idea that were not looking for any type of quarterback in the early rounds of the draft. Hello, to a new defensive stud!

I beg to differ. From what I've read, Bud is not anywhere near giving Vince the keys to the future. Look here:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/5139/adams-on-young-and-fisher
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“That’s what I came up here for, to get that big tall guy named Vince Young to show what he can do,” Adams said. “You know he hasn’t played that much, his contract is coming up pretty soon for renewal.”
“We’ve got to find out how he has developed over the last two years, he hasn’t played that much. We’ve got to get him in and find out what he can do because otherwise, we’re going to have a high draft choice and we better be looking for another new quarterback. …”


Hmm...either way not a big deal right now. He has the rest of the year to prove if he will be resigned.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TTitanFAN32 wrote:
Agreed. We've really never seen this offense yet with both Young and Johnson in the backfield because in the only game before last week, Young was injured and never saw the field again so I'm really excited about the fact of how athletic our backfield is.


You know, there was a point in time when I was the only VY supporter in this entire forum.

I love being right and all, but its kind of cool seeing everyone reiterating the same argument you have made the past year.

You have no idea how horrible people would make me feel and belittle me for saying things like VY wasn't given a chance to shine after we upgraded our offense with CJ and even Crumpler. It got to the point where I didn't post here as much because I felt like my opinion wasn't welcomed with equality.

I would try and reason with people, telling them to not compare KC and VY stats because they were with two different offenses. Travis Henry and Chris Johnson are miles apart. Bobby Wade and Drew Bennett were our top receivers. Brandon Jones was still a promising young receiver.

People really wanted to crucify Young, and anyone who supported him felt the wrath as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

capton cutclass wrote:
TTitanFAN32 wrote:
Agreed. We've really never seen this offense yet with both Young and Johnson in the backfield because in the only game before last week, Young was injured and never saw the field again so I'm really excited about the fact of how athletic our backfield is.


You know, there was a point in time when I was the only VY supporter in this entire forum.

I love being right and all, but its kind of cool seeing everyone reiterating the same argument you have made the past year.

You have no idea how horrible people would make me feel and belittle me for saying things like VY wasn't given a chance to shine after we upgraded our offense with CJ and even Crumpler. It got to the point where I didn't post here as much because I felt like my opinion wasn't welcomed with equality.

I would try and reason with people, telling them to not compare KC and VY stats because they were with two different offenses. Travis Henry and Chris Johnson are miles apart. Bobby Wade and Drew Bennett were our top receivers. Brandon Jones was still a promising young receiver.

People really wanted to crucify Young, and anyone who supported him felt the wrath as well.


Wow, you are crazy. I guarantee you there was at least like 5 of us that stuck with him no matter what. I know I did for sure, and still do. But nice try Rolling Eyes
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VYoung10 wrote:
capton cutclass wrote:
TTitanFAN32 wrote:
Agreed. We've really never seen this offense yet with both Young and Johnson in the backfield because in the only game before last week, Young was injured and never saw the field again so I'm really excited about the fact of how athletic our backfield is.


You know, there was a point in time when I was the only VY supporter in this entire forum.

I love being right and all, but its kind of cool seeing everyone reiterating the same argument you have made the past year.

You have no idea how horrible people would make me feel and belittle me for saying things like VY wasn't given a chance to shine after we upgraded our offense with CJ and even Crumpler. It got to the point where I didn't post here as much because I felt like my opinion wasn't welcomed with equality.

I would try and reason with people, telling them to not compare KC and VY stats because they were with two different offenses. Travis Henry and Chris Johnson are miles apart. Bobby Wade and Drew Bennett were our top receivers. Brandon Jones was still a promising young receiver.

People really wanted to crucify Young, and anyone who supported him felt the wrath as well.


Wow, you are crazy. I guarantee you there was at least like 5 of us that stuck with him no matter what. I know I did for sure, and still do. But nice try Rolling Eyes


Very true, there were at LEAST 5. Me being one of them....

Funny thing is, our two moderators are his biggest critics. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mesa_Titan wrote:
Funny thing is, our two moderators are his biggest critics. Laughing


I'm just not of the opinion that he was owed anything by the team that he (twice) quit on. Seems like a sensible opinion to have, but what do I know...

He needs to prove himself to the team. Sunday was a big step in that journey, but it was not the final step.
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I never abandoned VY. My Texas Longhorns homerism wouldn't allow it. And really, I try to support every Titan with one troublesome CB of the past being the only exception I can think of.

Gibby has been pretty harsh on Vince, but I remember TR just flat out silenced that BigBen7MVP guy once while defending VY's 2006 season.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could go 10-0 and the people that hate on him are going to hate. That's just how it works.
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Double Agent wrote:
I never abandoned VY. My Texas Longhorns homerism wouldn't allow it. And really, I try to support every Titan with one troublesome CB of the past being the only exception I can think of.


My once favorite player on the team. Crying or Very sad Hints the fact that there's a '32' in my username.

I wish he would have just stopped playing games with the organization and hopefully we would have still had him here.

As for Vince though, I have to admit that I really did lose all faith in him and rather of had Collins leading the team in more ways then just one. Last week he looked great though and I started to build some trust in him again. As the game went along, I started seeing a lot of decisions that he made for the better and is something that was a lot different then in the past. Hopefully he can just keep improving and gain the trust back in his teammates to be able to help them win ball games.
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Double Agent wrote:
I remember TR just flat out silenced that BigBen7MVP guy once while defending VY's 2006 season.


Laughing I'm sure he would disagree. I have nothing against people who don't watch every Titans game. I certainly don't have time to watch every game of every other team. But when people were giving Vince no credit for 2006, I did defend him. His contribution that year FAR outweighed his stats. Turned the whole attitude of the team around. 2007, on the other hand, was a complete disaster for Vince in so many ways.

I am going to stay open-minded however and see if he can rebuild his career. I'm not a victim guy, so I think Vince made his own bed. But I do hope he can turn it around and become the HOF'er he thinks he can be!
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Travis Henry, haven't heard that name in a while Laughing
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Hopefully vince improves week in and week out for yall guys and proves the doubters wrong good luck with the rest of yall season titan fans!!
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MemphisX wrote:
Travis Henry, haven't heard that name in a while Laughing
Except when he was in he news for his coke ring being sniffed ou by undercovers, pun intended.
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Mesa_Titan wrote:
VYoung10 wrote:
capton cutclass wrote:
TTitanFAN32 wrote:
Agreed. We've really never seen this offense yet with both Young and Johnson in the backfield because in the only game before last week, Young was injured and never saw the field again so I'm really excited about the fact of how athletic our backfield is.


You know, there was a point in time when I was the only VY supporter in this entire forum.

I love being right and all, but its kind of cool seeing everyone reiterating the same argument you have made the past year.

You have no idea how horrible people would make me feel and belittle me for saying things like VY wasn't given a chance to shine after we upgraded our offense with CJ and even Crumpler. It got to the point where I didn't post here as much because I felt like my opinion wasn't welcomed with equality.

I would try and reason with people, telling them to not compare KC and VY stats because they were with two different offenses. Travis Henry and Chris Johnson are miles apart. Bobby Wade and Drew Bennett were our top receivers. Brandon Jones was still a promising young receiver.

People really wanted to crucify Young, and anyone who supported him felt the wrath as well.


Wow, you are crazy. I guarantee you there was at least like 5 of us that stuck with him no matter what. I know I did for sure, and still do. But nice try Rolling Eyes


Very true, there were at LEAST 5. Me being one of them....

Funny thing is, our two moderators are his biggest critics. Laughing


He has deserved every critical thing said about him. I defended him very much until his regression in 2007. It is hard to defend a quitter, but I am intrigued after what I saw last Sunday. There is still hope for him, but one game proves nothing. He has to be consistent.
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