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JuggaLotus


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Shawne Merriman? Reply with quote

I have always loved Merriman, but have not got a chance to watch him yet this season. I was wanting to know if he looks slower or is still a little injured or has he just had two down games?..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He looks like he is still hurt. Not as explosive and definitely not as powerful as he has been in seasons past.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boltstrikes wrote:
He looks like he is still hurt. Not as explosive and definitely not as powerful as he has been in seasons past.


You think he will slowly get back to his old self through out the season, or does it look like he will always be a little bit less than the beast of old.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He looks his best when he has a blocker bearing down on him, he's been able to hold the edge well enough that I think everything else can come back to him.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he needs another off season to workout and get back to where he was. I don't think its the injury per se that is hampering him right now but more of the time spent rehabing the injury as opposed to rebuilding mass and strenght. His technique however is looking cleaner which as beast pointed out has made him look great setting the edge.

I miss the sacks and his stupid dance though.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boltstrikes wrote:
I think he needs another off season to workout and get back to where he was. I don't think its the injury per se that is hampering him right now but more of the time spent rehabing the injury as opposed to rebuilding mass and strenght. His technique however is looking cleaner which as beast pointed out has made him look great setting the edge.

I miss the sacks and his stupid dance though.


I think that the problem he is having is just getting used to playing with his brace and or he is getting used to playing with a certain feeling in his knee. Once he gets further into the season, i think he can be able to get back to his old form by the middle of the season.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These type of ligament/tendon injuries generally take 18-24 months to fully heal, so yes, you could technically say that he is still feeling the effects of the injury. Particularly with regard to players who play positions that require a fair amount of quick-impact burst (i.e. blow-up hits), cutting/quick change-of-direction, and so forth, you really shouldn't expect the player to be capable of reaching the physical heights they'd shown to be capable of until the second season back from the injury; that's the rule of thumb.

In a way, this should help Merriman's game a considerable amount though, because he's having to learn to be more technical and crafty in order to contribute how he used to because at the moment he lacks the ability to fall back on his pure physical gifts. We saw it in the Baltimore game, he's hd to work on timing snap-counts better and what not because he not going to be able to just rag-doll blockers or overpower them like he used to. Assuming there are no setbacks with the health of the knee, this should add more depth to his arsenal and make him a more dangerous player (how scary is that?).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/oct/07/n88724-chargers-acee07/

According to this article they said your gm is trying to make a trade. There was a rumor saying its possibly Merriman (not in this article). If this is the case what would you guys realistically expect for Merriman?
Take into account he hasn't been real productive this season. He is coming off surgery and the Tila incident.
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DaKingPin wrote:
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/oct/07/n88724-chargers-acee07/

According to this article they said your gm is trying to make a trade. There was a rumor saying its possibly Merriman (not in this article). If this is the case what would you guys realistically expect for Merriman?
Take into account he hasn't been real productive this season. He is coming off surgery and the Tila incident.


I'll be honest... I can't see him being moved for less than a 2nd or a future 1st. At the very least I could see a rider put in the trade clause similar to the Vilma trade where if he is re-signed/extended by his new team the compensation conditionally increases.

The guy's coming back from a knee injury (refer to Vilma again) and not playing where folks expect him to, but he's still young and given the opportunity for his ligament to fully heal, there's no reason not to expect him to return to being a very good player, if not as dominant as he was in the past.

The Vilma trade and the Seymour trade (albeit a different position, slightly) are the rough areas to gauge this trade.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking into your free agent situation come next year. With the possible lack of a CBA, it becomes a bit fuzzy to me.

I have the following as UFA next year:
Merriman
McNeil
V. Jackson
Sproles

With Kampman not playing well, I can see the Packers trying to move him (not to SD, but to a 4-3 team). Does Merriman play LOLB or ROLB? Also, since you've played a few more games since this thread was posted (including a 2 sack performance vs. Oakland) - how has he been looking lately?

Do you forsee a tag and trade with Merriman? Or do you think you guys would use the tag on McNeil (or sign him long term). Long story short, I'm very interested in acquiring Merriman on GB to bookened opposite Clay Matthews III.

Thanks guys!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

incognito_man wrote:
I've been looking into your free agent situation come next year. With the possible lack of a CBA, it becomes a bit fuzzy to me.

I have the following as UFA next year:
Merriman
McNeil
V. Jackson
Sproles

With Kampman not playing well, I can see the Packers trying to move him (not to SD, but to a 4-3 team). Does Merriman play LOLB or ROLB? Also, since you've played a few more games since this thread was posted (including a 2 sack performance vs. Oakland) - how has he been looking lately?

Do you forsee a tag and trade with Merriman? Or do you think you guys would use the tag on McNeil (or sign him long term). Long story short, I'm very interested in acquiring Merriman on GB to bookened opposite Clay Matthews III.

Thanks guys!


Merriman plays ROLB.

Minus the Oakland game IMO, he still looks like hes playing hurt. Hes really slow when rushing the passer and gets pushed around pretty easily by blockers.

I see us letting him go. We drafted English for this very reason and V-Jac and McNeil are more important than Merriman at this point.

Also, Malcolm Floyd is another key FA
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply.

Am I crazy, or did Merriman used to play LOLB? In your scheme (I'm not that familiar with it) but are the key differences between your ROLB and LOLB.

I'm just wondering how good of a fit Merriman might be at LOLB for Green Bay since Matthews is a much better ROLB fit than LOLB fit for us.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absent a CBA he will be a RFA next year with us. Perfect situation for us.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

incognito_man wrote:
Thanks for the reply.

Am I crazy, or did Merriman used to play LOLB? In your scheme (I'm not that familiar with it) but are the key differences between your ROLB and LOLB.

I'm just wondering how good of a fit Merriman might be at LOLB for Green Bay since Matthews is a much better ROLB fit than LOLB fit for us.


In our scheme, ROLB and LOLB is inconsequential. Because both Phillips and Merriman are pass rush specialists, they pretty much line up as d-lineman most of the time. For some reason, Rivera doesn't like to move Merriman around in order to exploit a good matchup.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey who knows, maybe Merriman got the spark he needed against the Raiders to start working for that contract. I'm really bias towards Merriman and I still believe he can do more good than bad for us.
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